Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Tom McDonald sent for Scans (24/5)


Guzzie

Recommended Posts

30 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The stress on each foot during a match would be off the charts

i have been waiting for a massive jump in shoe technology in sport for years. We pay big bucks for a players contract, but the footy boot can still be bought at Rebel. 

Every player should have boots made for them personally. 

A Turf toe injury should be covered in a 2018 boot. 

I may be asking too much, but if i am, i will be shocked and amazed. 

Agree ..but of course they wear the sponsor's boot which has to be available for resale.

Certainly not impossible to get handmade boots.... might be harder though to replicate the "air cushion" etc claimed by the high end boots.

PS Just did some research on the NBA players and in the main they wear off the shelf boots with individually designed orthotic inserts.

Edited by Diamond_Jim
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Agree ..but of course they wear the sponsor's boot which has to be available for resale.

Certainly not impossible to get handmade boots.... might be harder though to replicate the "air cushion" etc claimed by the high end boots.

PS Just did some research on the NBA players and in the main they wear off the shelf boots with individually designed orthotic inserts.

Amazing, look at any piece of play that becomes congested or a marking contest. A foot could be stood on and shattered at any time, 

and that has nothing to do with a hyperextended  metacarpal 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Daniel Chick did it with his finger, surely a toe is easier to get along without. :laugh:

your a chiro you know its not.

 

tell them to go Run, then Jump.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I have known what the injury is for years

The Science of the Football Boot needs to improve

Have you done any reading on the injury?  I didn't post, to let you know the obvious swyl.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


1 hour ago, DV8 said:

Oh, now that would be telling !

Ok, so you're guessing.  I recommend you stick to whatever lane you think your lane is. 

Clearly, making recommendations on player welfare isn't one of them. 

From what I've read soreness is the key.  But I'll leave it to the experts.

We'll know soon enough. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Ok, so you're guessing.  I recommend you stick to whatever lane you think your lane is. 

Clearly, making recommendations on player welfare isn't one of them. 

From what I've read soreness is the key.  But I'll leave it to the experts.

We'll know soon enough. 

what you read the media for your info?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

He did that in the AFL side anyway.  He had done pretty much all of the pre-season training before the injury struck so he still had the base fitness from that.

You're just clutching at straws as you want to blame 'bad management', when it's clearly untrue.

Your just being naive ... our injury management cost us finals last year ... so it needs to be called out

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Demons1858 said:

Your just being naive ... our injury management cost us finals last year ... so it needs to be called out

We've got one of the smallest injury lists in the league right now.

You can call it out all you like.  Nobody is listening.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

We've got one of the smallest injury lists in the league right now.

You can call it out all you like.  Nobody is listening.

l know that many will disagree with me, but unlike some, I'm not focused just on popularist views .. check the stats for yourself:

2017 injury ladder (and it only got worse as the year progressed and we missed finals)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/greater-western-sydney-sits-on-top-of-hurt-ladder-by-a-long-way/news-story/260167253f20b80354b15fc8ee3de301

2016 injury ladder:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afls-injury-ladder-hawthorn-gws-not-alarmed-by-luckless-run-20170724-gxhh2x.html

Hopefully our sports science team don't derail what has been a good start this season

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, DV8 said:

what is it swyl?

 

Take a Bex will you please

i am well aware of TMac’s injury. 

If you read the thread carefully you will see i have told you what it is. 

So good to have your mad rambling’s back Deeluded, at least the fonts and colours are now consistent. 

LSD a little less potent i gather...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Take a Bex will you please

i am well aware of TMac’s injury. 

If you read the thread carefully you will see i have told you what it is. 

So good to have your mad rambling’s back Deeluded, at least the fonts and colours are now consistent. 

LSD a little less potent i gather...

You have not,  you just named it is all.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Demons1858 said:

Your just being naive ... our injury management cost us finals last year ... so it needs to be called out

No it didnt. Appalling effort it final game and inability to kill a side for% cost the finals.

Viney did his own thing in an effort to get back early when he was advised that 9 weeks off was needed. Look what happened. 

Gawn jones and watts were all effectively managed.

Tmac and the team have done the right thing all along this year.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

TMac is ok, and will play, as is pretty much confirmed by his inclusion in the final side tonight. TMac and medical staff were being precautionary which is understandable on both their parts given TMac’s previous foot issues. The issue identified this week is not a major one, and the area in concern is different to the one that caused him to miss earlier this year. All are just keen to get him through to the bye round for a rest and reassessment to be done then.

Sauce is good.

And yes boots can be and often are modified to suit specific requirements. It’s the same thing as tennis racquets, for example, you can go to Rebel sport and buy a racquet that looks exactly like the one Federer uses, however as a professional tennis player, he has his own racquets weighted, tensioned etc. to his liking – same principle with footy boots.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


1 hour ago, Demons1858 said:

l know that many will disagree with me, but unlike some, I'm not focused just on popularist views

Some ideas are not popular because they're wrong. Or stupid.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, ProDee said:

Ok, so you're guessing.  I recommend you stick to whatever lane you think your lane is. 

Clearly, making recommendations on player welfare isn't one of them. 

From what I've read soreness is the key.  But I'll leave it to the experts.

We'll know soon enough. 

Didn't know that the Women's Weekly printed information for laymen on football injuries. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, bing181 said:

Some ideas are not popular because they're wrong. Or stupid.

I think its stupid to ignore stats for injury management and assume sports science are doing a good job just because its a bit of a black box to read

Edited by Demons1858
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Demon17 said:

No it didnt. Appalling effort it final game and inability to kill a side for% cost the finals.

Viney did his own thing in an effort to get back early when he was advised that 9 weeks off was needed. Look what happened. 

Gawn jones and watts were all effectively managed.

Tmac and the team have done the right thing all along this year.

You have actually highlighted many of the injury mgmt issues last year that caused us issues:

Viney should not be allowed to mismanage his recovery out of a determination to help the team - he is our most influential player

Gawn himself on refection said it wasn't just his hammy but that he did get fit enough to return

Watts was criticised for not getting himself fit for this return and was subsequently dropped. 

Salem was also unfit and dropped back to VFL

Tmac had a set back earlier this year. Lets hope he hasn't had another one.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For what it is worth, I have just been talking to one of our favourite players long term partner who told me that Tommy’s injury is not too bad. He just pulled up slightly sore.

  • Like 8
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 hours ago, bing181 said:

Some ideas are not popular because they're wrong. Or stupid.

And some ideas are not popular because they are right and the mob don't like them. 

In nearly all forms of social opinion, popularity is often the line of least resistance, not the pathway of greatest truth.

Politicians bank on it, very securely.

On topic, MFC has cruelled by injury in recent years. With limited depth, its impact was heavier on us than others. 

One of the few upsides for MFC is that Jesse's injuries forced us to experiment with Tom up forward. 

It was a stumbled success to rival 3M's "sticky note". 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...