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Is Clarry's "overhandballing" an issue or are you A-OK with it too?

I'm happy he's getting us first use of the ball and I don't see it as being an issue. I think sometimes he is too quick and clever with his handballs and our players aren't ready for it but that is something the other players need to adjust to. I'd also like to see him kick it more often because he has a beautiful kick but having said that it's about winning and keeping the ball and if that is happening then there's nothing to worry about.

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I will say it again.

Clarry will win at least one Brownlow, and will be remembered as the best handballer in the games history.

Kid is a freak.

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Clarry is already one of the best extractors in the AFL. He fights and fights for the hard-ball and always seems to hit a player running into space to completely open up the contest for us. Most AFL players handball to stationary team mates, which loses all momentum and allows the opposition to lay a tackle and create another stoppage. Clarry has that instinct to choose the right target almost every time, which creates that huge run of play streaming into the forward line with one incredible handball that goes completely underrated.

I'd rather him do that 80% of the time if that means he kicks it less. His handballs are a LOT more effective than what most people/media think. It's hilarious. 

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27 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Is Clarry's "overhandballing" an issue or are you A-OK with it too?

I'm happy he's getting us first use of the ball and I don't see it as being an issue. I think sometimes he is too quick and clever with his handballs and our players aren't ready for it but that is something the other players need to adjust to. I'd also like to see him kick it more often because he has a beautiful kick but having said that it's about winning and keeping the ball and if that is happening then there's nothing to worry about.

That is a when did you stop beating your wife question?

I do not think he over handballs. He sometime gets it wrong, he misses targets but look where he gets the ball, the fact that he gets the ball away at all at times is a miracle. I would like to see more kicking but he probably will when Viney gets back.

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You can compare him to Diesel Williams (on his proclivity for handballing) - I don't think anyone ever criticised Williams for over use of handballing.

It is all about how effective you are at handballing. Oliver's handball is an absolute offensive weapon and can open up sides by the way he frees up our players. 

I have no problem with it all.

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I think what many people are saying that while his handballing is fantastic imagine what he might achieve by increasing his kick numbers.

Close analysis of Sunday's games shows there were at least a couple of times when he could have kicked to advantage but he chose instinctively to handball to no advantage.

He could be an absolute star of the game rather than the very very good player he is at present.

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IMO Clarrie chooses the right disposal option as well as, if not better than any current AFL 'coalface' player.  Sure he chooses the wrong option occasionally, but what AFL player doesn't?  All I would change right now if I could, would be to put an Andrew Gaff or Isaac Smith on his outside.

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Clarry is 20 years old and would already come close to being one of the top five Demon midfielders of all time. 

You know you've picked up a good player when his only fault is that he utilises his laser like handballs too often. 

The kid is a freak.

 

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He has the best hands I have seen for many, many years. I guess we as MFC supporters take him for granted a little now. If we step back and look at his achievements, we will see he is tracking better than Martin, Dangerfield and Fyfe did at the same age. We are so fortunate to have such a phenomenal talent in our team. 

The scary thing for opposing teams is that he is still learning his craft. I feel blessed to be watching this young champions career unfold. 

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His handball skill and decision making speed also makes it much harder for opposition to stop/tag him.  Kicking takes much longer to execute than Clarry’s speed with his immediate get and go handballs. Most clubs have tried to tag him for at least some of the time, but it’s generally proving futile. 

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His extract with one hand and then punch it out with the other though traffic to a team mate, all in one seemingly effortless motion, is a thing of beauty. I still don't think people (outside of Demonland of course) quite get the genius being displayed because it all happens too quickly. Or the commentators are too busy discussing the length of socks or the curious facial expression of certain players?

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He is very good but I'd like the stats on handball completions

I thought several handballs went straight to opponents - plenty of pressure - indeed but a kick fwd might have been better

In anticipation of howls of outrage of any criticism at all of our players ... Do your worst

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19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

It's beautiful to watch.

 

You can't teach that, you're born with three eyes!!!???

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5 hours ago, faultydet said:

I will say it again.

Clarry will win at least one Brownlow, and will be remembered as the best handballer in the games history.

Kid is a freak.

He is better than Diesel Williams already. I loved the one handed pick & simletaneous handball against the Saint I was in awe of it.

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3 hours ago, The Chief said:

His handball skill and decision making speed also makes it much harder for opposition to stop/tag him.  Kicking takes much longer to execute than Clarry’s speed with his immediate get and go handballs. Most clubs have tried to tag him for at least some of the time, but it’s generally proving futile. 

good point Chief

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Oliver not only has quick hands but has the quickness of thought to make sure that what he is doing is a good option.

I believe that at sometime in the future we will look back and say that he was  responsible for taking delivery by hand to a new level that an awful lot of footballers with try to emulate. I can see some of his team mates already trying different things. A jump into a tackle with a twis of the body to get away and effective handball is one I have seen happening more often.

His kicking game will develop but, like Goodwin, I will enjoy watching him knock out his handballs.

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The best handballer/extractor since Greg Williams (who hes now surpassed)  utilizes his once in a generation gifts to dominate games and the media ask if he does it too much.   

We need less media, not more.  They are intolerable. 

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