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What is the Weid's role


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3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Oh its coming.   And when the floodgates open the kid will be a star.

20 year old KPF whos now learning ruck at AFL level ....  a very tough gig at a very young age but hes getting there.

He was directly responsible for three straight goals in the 2nd half.. he kicked 2 in a row himself then handballed to Oliver for a goal.

Tracc if goals are scored when they aren't straight are you saying they're a behind?  But i get what you're saying! :laugh:

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2 hours ago, willmoy said:

Whatever he's doing he'll be giving McGuire, and every other old Magpie fogie, the absolute SH##S

I just hope he plays QB and has a blinder!

He is coming along nicely and complements Hogan and Tommy beautifully.    Learning ruck work.

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Weeds role is simple: get exposure, learn and get better at the top level. His leash seems pretty long.

He isn't best 22, but Pedo's card is marked so they need to figure out if Weeds can cut it as the ruck forward guy heading into next season. If not we draft or trade for a player who can fill that need.

If we keep winning, he will keep playing.

 

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8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Roos gave Weideman some high praise yesterday.  Said he plays in the same mould as Ben Brown - very good at leaping for the mark, taking it at its highest point.  Doesn't get much better than that.  

So,long as he doesn’t play for frees like Sideshow Brown

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3 hours ago, Doodle Dee said:

why is the convo weid for garlett? id have thought the missing piece is a fired up jeffy with fritsch taking anb's km clocking spot at high half fwd. I thought it was evident that ANB had no goalkicking nous yesterday and did not take his opportunities. I was wrong about Weid, he's developing nicely.

ANB has goal kicking ability, he is just horribly out of form and confidence 

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22 hours ago, Thrice said:

The way I see it is that he is that his role is highly structural. We want to play a territory game and he creates a contest every time the ball comes near him. If he doesn't take a mark he is quick at ground level and instinctively tackles to force a stoppage and reset. He rarely gets beaten. As his confidence and strength grows he will clunk a few more marks, he has decent timing in the air.

His chop out ruck work is serviceable, which frees up Tommy to roam the wings when going through the midfield. 

I have a feeling the coaches would be quite pleased with how he is going. 

I reckon it's a masterstroke move. It certainly plays into Goodwin's demands of versatility too. It makes us unpredictable and difficult to match up on.

The more Weid plays in this team, the more his role will gel and he'll grow in confidence.

I remember a few years ago that Roosy was obsessed with the big bodied, tall midfielders. They were in vogue and so difficult to match up on. So Jesse and Tom being able to roam wherever they want is an interesting evolution to this idea and the modern midfielder.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the system works again when we play in wet conditions.

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11 minutes ago, A F said:

I reckon it's a masterstroke move. It certainly plays into Goodwin's demands of versatility too. It makes us unpredictable and difficult to match up on.

The more Weid plays in this team, the more his role will gel and he'll grow in confidence.

I remember a few years ago that Roosy was obsessed with the big bodied, tall midfielders. They were in vogue and so difficult to match up on. So Jesse and Tom being able to roam wherever they want is an interesting evolution to this idea and the modern midfielder.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the system works again when we play in wet conditions.

I reckon the good thing here is Hogan and Tom are good below the knees as well as in the air, makes us flexible.

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Just now, SFebey said:

I reckon the good thing here is Hogan and Tom are good below the knees as well as in the air, makes us flexible.

Yep, agreed. Weid isn't the worst either.

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10 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

ANB has goal kicking ability, he is just horribly out of form and confidence 

Not sure why this is in this thread, but ANB needs at least a few weeks at Casey to regain that confidence.   Hannan is overtaking him as opportunistic goalsneak. 

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19 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

What I love is that normally when you try three tall fwds you get burnt by the lack of mobility.  However for us having Hogan and Tmac who are both super mobile we have created a match up nightmare for the opposition. This is only going to get better. 

Keep in mind this was against two teams on a pretty low ebb Daisy.  The true test of that set up will come against the genuine contenders as we get into the likes of Adelaide, West Coast Sydney and the Hawks / Cats second time round.  The FD might not take 3 talls in against some of the better rated teams but only time will tell.

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1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The key is that we are playing three marking forwards.

I don't care if we play Weideman, Pedersen or T. Smith, we just need the structure of the three tall forwards.

The key to playing the 3 is right there Clint. If we don't get at least 2 of them taking some handy clunkers inside 50 and also putting enough pressure on at ground level the result might be fairly ordinary with the opp easily running it out the other way on the quick counter for some easy scoring opportunities.   And the good ones wont be missing as often as the lowly Saints did on the weekend.

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4 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

The key to playing the 3 is right there Clint. If we don't get at least 2 of them taking some handy clunkers inside 50 and also putting enough pressure on at ground level the result might be fairly ordinary with the opp easily running it out the other way on the quick counter for some easy scoring opportunities.   And the good ones wont be missing as often as the lowly Saints did on the weekend.

Still plenty of room for small forwards to help apply that pressure

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12 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

ANB has goal kicking ability, he is just horribly out of form and confidence 

One decent game gainst Norf.  His results either side have been very ordinary.  Did well to get to Rnd 7.

Viney for ANB looks the most likely change this week.

FWIW weighted average stats have him ranked 26th out of the 31 players to have played so far this year ie., a fair way outside our best 22 to this point.

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1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The key is that we are playing three marking forwards.

I don't care if we play Weideman, Pedersen or T. Smith, we just need the structure of the three tall forwards.

Think your right in regard to structure. We have three mobile marking forwards.  Good in the air and on the ground, reasonably good in applying defensive pressure and good goal kicking accuracy. 

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1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The key is that we are playing three marking forwards.

I don't care if we play Weideman, Pedersen or T. Smith, we just need the structure of the three tall forwards.

And not forgetting the development of Mitch King (if he can ever get a decent run at it).

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I spoke to Weid, simple instructions, compete in the air and at ground level, forward 50 pressure and kick goals when opportunity arises, chop out in the ruck. If he can't mark it, get it to ground, keep a defender occupied

Exactly what he did on Sunday

People over analyse

Goodwin's whole philosophy is to keep it simple,  barks it all the time at training, when the team over complicates it they [censored] it up

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The tall forward line has failed the last two years at the pointy end of the season.

Fritsch is also a marking forward so the plan is to play 4 marking forwards... could get very interesting.

I have an open mind as our smaller forwards aren't exactly setting the world on fire.

Certainly makes a change from our forward structure of only a few weeks ago against Hawthorn and any change form that day can only be good !

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28 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

The tall forward line has failed the last two years at the pointy end of the season.

Fritsch is also a marking forward so the plan is to play 4 marking forwards... could get very interesting.

I have an open mind as our smaller forwards aren't exactly setting the world on fire.

Certainly makes a change from our forward structure of only a few weeks ago against Hawthorn and any change form that day can only be good !

I'm refusing to get sucked in to this argument.  Richmond played/s with a small forward line, because basically, other than Riewoldt, they have no competent tall forwards.  While they are premiers, and favourites to go again this year, I'm sure Hardwick would love to have another tall forward to play.

The Bulldogs had Cordy and Boyd playing the tall role, as well as Stringer (who plays taller than what he is).  They moved Cordy back last year, but added Schache last trade period.

Yes, last year's premiers played a "non traditional" forward line last year, but if you look at the past 150 or so years before that, you will find it's an exception to the rule.

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I have been pleasantly surprised by his ruckwork since his return to the side.

He actually looks quite at home there and has created several clearances for us with his work.

As he gets more games under his belt and develops physically, he could be a very good player for us with his versatility as a key forward/relieving ruck.

Having two or three rotating key tall forwards is certainly straightening us up.

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There seems to be a perception that "tall marking forwards" are selected only for their marking ability and any other abilities or skills are simply a bonus. It's time the term was eliminated from the vocabulary. How many pack marks do they take as a result of their height? My guess is, apart from Max, very few. They lead well and run to provide options and end up taking many marks from good positioning against opponents,

All forwards, tall or short, are marking forwards and ground level forwards and defensive forwards and leading forwards and running forwards depending on the situation at any given time. What the talls do bring is a good contests to deny opponents the ball in the air and the opportunity to create mismatches all over the forward line (consider how often Max gets free near the goals  - could it be that the opposition are struggling to match to our talls?)

We can never have too many players like Jesse, TMac and Weid. When playing as a unit, their effect can be priceless.

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Sam credits Jesse with his improved form

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-05-11/weideman

“He took me under his wing early this pre-season and we’ve become a lot closer and are working a lot more together on different parts of my game. It’s been really good and beneficial...He came to my VFL games early on and spoke to me at each quarter. He gave me clear instructions and it was good to have someone to work with and look up to.”

Nice work by Jesse!  

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This kid showed he had all the moves even in his first game. unfortunately his body has taken some time to catch up to his ability. But as his size and his experience grows he will be a very very good player for us. If he has inherited even a little bit of the mongrel that his grandfather had he will be a star!

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