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3 hours ago, SFebey said:

They’ve been preparing Viney as well as McDonald for AFL, they’ve said it multiple times. Viney was running around weeks ago, would not be surprised to see him line v Gold Coast.

I agree they have been pushing this line but the narrative seems to have changed this week. 

Reading between the lines, it seems he may be playing VFL this week. 

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8 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Why anyone would want Viney to play in the VFL has got me stuffed when we are playing a VFL standard team in the Suns. The best of both worlds for Viney.

I think Melbourne are just playing games. Guns like Viney just don't play VFL footy, a complete waste of talent if he plays in the VFL IMO.

Fair call mate, think I'm just conditioned to expect the worst, you know, he comes straight in and picks up a new injury or is reinjured. Guess it could happen  playing VFL, can't see him taking it any easier at that level anyway. 

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The VFL is attractive simply because it offers the option of reducing the game time to say 60% while still offering match conditions.

As others have pointed out when you combine comeback pressure with travel etc and of course the weight of expectations it just makes sense to keep it low key.

We also need to consider whether his time on field etc and games played will need to be managed when he returns for say the first 6 weeks. (luckily there is a bye which could help in this regard.)

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Gold Coast led by 17 points when the teams played in 2017 before Melbourne kicked 14 goals to six in the second half. Jeff Garlett starred with 24 disposals, eight marks and five goals.

This on top of his 5 against the Lions at the Gabba a few weeks back, means he should be seriously considered despite some poor form recently.

Vince deserves a rest after a hectic schedule and another short turnaround interstate.

For me it would be ANB and Vince out and Salem and Jeff in.

Save Viney for the G next week.

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9 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Why anyone would want Viney to play in the VFL has got me stuffed when we are playing a VFL standard team in the Suns. The best of both worlds for Viney.

I think Melbourne are just playing games. Guns like Viney just don't play VFL footy, a complete waste of talent if he plays in the VFL IMO.

Werridee, the case for playing Viney in the VFL is that: 1) unlike TMac he hasn't done a full pre season 2) he's a mid fielder so any restriction on game time has an impact elsewhere; 3) if game time is to be restricted the VFL with 23 players a side is the better place to do it; 4) it avoids an interstate trip and the added complexities of a potentially warm and humid day in Brisbane that could possibly increase the fatigue levels and thus propensity for soft tissue injuries; 5) it allows the club to make just the one change to a winning side (assuming Salem gets up).

Not many valid reasons at all really.......

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Viney coming back to AFL this week could only have 1 of 2 outcomes:

  1. He gets through the game unscathed but has an average output (sub 20 possession)
  2. He re-injures his foot or does some other type of injury

The whole reason there's a 3-4 game preseason is to get players used to match conditions and into form. One does not simply waltz into a side after a year off and have a blinder with 30+ disposals.

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4 hours ago, rjay said:

 

 

I think there is good reason to run Viney on limited minutes at Casey to get some match fitness.

Unlike Tommy, he hasn't played a competitive game since last season & may open himself up to soft tissue injury for example.

It's probably more likely we run him in at AFL level but there are good reasons why we might not despite the views expressed above.

why not play him as a fwd (replacing anb) on limited time (70%). depending on how he goes maybe a short stint on-ball.

vfl a waste, just as easy to injure yourself there, plus he might kill someone at that level

and box hill will probably target him for some rough treatment (not that he couldn't handle it but still a big risk). always some nuff nuff trying to make a name for himself.

 

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Gold Coast led by 17 points when the teams played in 2017 before Melbourne kicked 14 goals to six in the second half. Jeff Garlett starred with 24 disposals, eight marks and five goals.

This on top of his 5 against the Lions at the Gabba a few weeks back, means he should be seriously considered despite some poor form recently.

Vince deserves a rest after a hectic schedule and another short turnaround interstate.

For me it would be ANB and Vince out and Salem and Jeff in.

Save Viney for the G next week.

Yes that is a good point.

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Re Viney he hasn't played under match conditions since late last year. He may well be fit to play this weekend but I will bet London to a brick that he will be mighty sore and may not come up the week after. So play limited time in the seniors or slightly longer at Casey.? I would leave it to the List load manager Charlie Allen to decide. I suspect the club will be looking at the fixture and deciding which strategy best has Viney ready for the next month and the likes of the Crows and Collingwood

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2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

If I was a wagering person I would back Jack V for the VFL this week.

There will be so much pressure on the medicos that I suspect no one would give an unqualified opinion.

Play 3/4 in the VFL is my bet.

Wouldn't like to be the poor sod who's on the end of the first tackle he lays.

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37 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

why not play him as a fwd (replacing anb) on limited time (70%). depending on how he goes maybe a short stint on-ball.

vfl a waste, just as easy to injure yourself there, plus he might kill someone at that level

and box hill will probably target him for some rough treatment (not that he couldn't handle it but still a big risk). always some nuff nuff trying to make a name for himself.

 

He is not a forward for one and ANB is covering more ground than any other player in our team.  

If Viney tried to play this role first up, he would blow up. 

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9 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Out ANB omtted Vince rested

In Salem  Garlett

Listening to Gawn on RSN this morning, I don’t think ANB will be dropped based on his importance to the team structure on the half forward line 

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5 hours ago, rjay said:

 

 

I think there is good reason to run Viney on limited minutes at Casey to get some match fitness.

Unlike Tommy, he hasn't played a competitive game since last season & may open himself up to soft tissue injury for example.

It's probably more likely we run him in at AFL level but there are good reasons why we might not despite the views expressed above.

 

37 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

why not play him as a fwd (replacing anb) on limited time (70%). depending on how he goes maybe a short stint on-ball.

vfl a waste, just as easy to injure yourself there, plus he might kill someone at that level

and box hill will probably target him for some rough treatment (not that he couldn't handle it but still a big risk). always some nuff nuff trying to make a name for himself.

 

 

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I think Goodwin explains it pretty well...

...and let me add 'daisy' that there is less pressure in the VFL. Yes he can still get injured (lets hope he doesn't) but if he gets a bit sore they can put him away for the day. We can't afford that at AFL level.

He can get some touch and match fitness and be primed for the Blues.

 

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apart from Oliver our mids are pretty small.  Viney and Salem back does not help this.  I'd like to see Tim Smith in there.  He is not only tall but strong and aggressive.  His 31 possession BOG in the last VFL game shows he can do it.  With Suns and Carlton coming up it would be an ideal time to try it.

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2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Gold Coast led by 17 points when the teams played in 2017 before Melbourne kicked 14 goals to six in the second half. Jeff Garlett starred with 24 disposals, eight marks and five goals.

This on top of his 5 against the Lions at the Gabba a few weeks back, means he should be seriously considered despite some poor form recently.

Vince deserves a rest after a hectic schedule and another short turnaround interstate.

For me it would be ANB and Vince out and Salem and Jeff in.

Save Viney for the G next week.

This is terrible logic.  What about the time Jakovich kicked 13?  Bring him back, too!

the fact that he has had poor form recently has to be the main consideration, not an aside.  We should gift games to no one, ever.  Jeffy back in when he has earned it.

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5 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Given the bull at a gate ideology of some of our FD ...whilst logic and tempered excitement should have him warming up at Casey... I'll bet London to a brick hell play the Suns.

You owe me London , 'bub.  ?

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