Post Match Discussion - Round 7

[jnrmac 18,914]

3 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

I posted about this incident in a different thread and I feel like my take is right on the mark if I do say so myself. It did not warrant a free kick, the rule is if you don't make contact with ball, not if you don't attempt to mark it. It's normally a poorly adjudicated part of the game but this was the correct decision.

 

"He had a chance early in the game to impose himself when Hannan skied the ball. He needed to launch at it and mark it in his hands. He tried to mark it on his chest and this allowed Webster to run back and spoil without giving away a free kick for not looking at the ball. Great spoil but an easy free kick to draw for a marking player".

Thanks for the explanation. I did look it up though and actually there is no rule. Another AFL interpretation. The only front on rule concerns a player bending down to pick up the ball.. The rules say nothing at all about the situation above.

 

I also remember a situation with Jack Watts playing against Port in the NT. Last line of defence, Watts ran front on to the player and punched the ball, then collided with the Port player. Free to Port for front on contact. 

Edited May 7, 2018 by jnrmac

[chook fowler 18,174]

It was mentioned On the Couch that we are the number 1 in the competition for winning the contested ball - and that is without Viney. This means that possibly Salem will play more outside as a distributor when he comes back. Clarrie, Viney and Gus on the inside, augmented by Trac, Hoges and TMac makes a powerful unit and Melksham along with the newbies Spargo and Fritsch who are good ball users will be the beneficiaries of this dominance. Could be a special time ahead.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

22 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

 

I also remember a situation with Jack Watts playing against Port in the NT. Last line of defence, Watts ran front on to the player and punched the ball, then collided with the Port player. Free to Port for front on contact. 

The umps make it up as they go, their understanding of the rules and game is average at best

[SFebes 4,692]

Has the fab 5 ever played a game altogether? Can’t think of too many.

Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Salem, Petracca?

thats a mouthwatering midfield right there. I think Petracca needs more midfield time to build his tank but I’m sure the club is well over it.

[Pates 9,536]

11 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Has the fab 5 ever played a game altogether? Can’t think of too many.

Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Salem, Petracca?

thats a mouthwatering midfield right there. I think Petracca needs more midfield time to build his tank but I’m sure the club is well over it.

Throw Jones and Tyson and that's batting pretty deep. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,210]

19 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

Yeah I tend to agree. Still think there's a lot of work to do though. Everyone talks about the comp being ridiculously even... But we have smashed some sides that looked appalling this year. Then got run ragged by some top sides. I still feel we're a ways off. That 4 quarter effort you talk about, that's all well and good, but it needs to become something you see more games than not. And so far this year, it's been rare.

I can relate to that Dappa.  Good teams are that way through repeat efforts.  We need more evidence for sure

[Demon Dynasty 15,210]

19 hours ago, Docs Demons said:

AgrFinally, I hope, we play 4 quarers consistently like yesterfromday. The only downer is letting late goals in when game over. 3 for Bombers and 2 for Saints. This will be a close season and every little bit of percentage required. Maybe nit-picking but must go hard till final siren. Next 2 games very important for us. 

I agree with the late bleeding.  The annoying part is the last 2 to 3 minutes of some quarters there's just the occasional major blunder / skill error where we fail to hit an open target, handball straight to an opponent in corridor etc just when we looked like putting the game beyond reach and smacking the opposition.

Probably just a reflection of where we are at really.   Going well against ordinary opposition but not able to smash them just yet.

We have come a fair way from a few years ago though where we were normally discussing how we could be smashed so badly by ordinary teams like the Saints.

[monoccular 16,016]

On 5/6/2018 at 10:13 PM, Wadda We Sing said:

Channel & News reported it as a contact hit for which he was given a free......i couldnt see it and neither did the commentators, but maybe it was there...?

None of the commentators appeared to hear the umpire, who was right on the spot, call the throat contact .... the despicable Slobbo ranted on about it again today.  Sober folk heard the call. Never recall Slobbo calling Dive Bomber Lloyd for his systematic staging 

On 5/6/2018 at 10:53 PM, Robbie57 said:

St kildsa best umpire foot

 

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14 hours ago, Jaded said:

Petracca has to work on his set shots. He is at a putrid 1.6 for the year. 

 

12 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Said to my brother last week, maybe the needs to try the Stevie J system

Hopefully not the same SJ system Jesse used after his much discussed free right in front :-(((

Edited May 7, 2018 by monoccular

[beelzebub 22,225]

4 Dees in Cornes teamof the week

Hibberd Gawn Oliver Hogan

Well done lads.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

15 hours ago, Jaded said:

Petracca has to work on his set shots. He is at a putrid 1.6 for the year. 

When he first started his goal kicking wasn't great, then it improved a lot but it's gone back to being quite bad again.

[Dee Zephyr 17,309]

6 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

When he first started his goal kicking wasn't great, then it improved a lot but it's gone back to being quite bad again.

I’m not sure if this has anything to do with it but as we get to most games early we notice Trac during the warm-up miss a lot of shots at goal.

Most of his practice consists of bad angle and snap shots. One of the Fox Footy shows last night made a mention that Breust has the same pre-game routine. 30 metres out and directly in front when practising his goal kicking, keeping it simple.

[DeeZone 7,669]

Loved the game and we have certainly improved our kicking-in this year, some of the long kicks to a player floating out back were great to watch and set up quick goals, i thought overall kicking for goal was pretty poor from both sides. we had some bad luck as well as we were flowing forward a poor handball or kick into the man cost us a number of scoring opportunities and handed the saints a lot of scoring involvements and we continually gift sides "Junk Time" goals. However that all aside I was able to watch and enjoy the majority of the last two weeks games. We have a really top group here and if they come on as we all expect, we have a lot to look forward to.

Go Dee's........................!!!!!!!!!!

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57 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

When he first started his goal kicking wasn't great, then it improved a lot but it's gone back to being quite bad again.

Maybe he spends a lot of time swinging his leg at fighting dogs and has forgotten legs are for footy.

[Gorgoroth 12,307]

6 hours ago, SFebey said:

Has the fab 5 ever played a game altogether? Can’t think of too many.

Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Salem, Petracca?

thats a mouthwatering midfield right there. I think Petracca needs more midfield time to build his tank but I’m sure the club is well over it.

 

6 hours ago, Pates said:

Throw Jones and Tyson and that's batting pretty deep. 

Cough  *Hogan* cough

[ManDee 7,073]

13 hours ago, Roost It said:

McCartin over Petracca and Brayshaw...........ooops

It reminds the sadist in me of Scully & Trengove before Dustin Martin. Sorry

[Elegt 872]

11 minutes ago, ManDee said:

It reminds the sadist in me of Scully & Trengove before Dustin Martin. Sorry

that recruiter should be shot

[Engorged Onion 9,239]

12 minutes ago, Elegt said:

that recruiter should be shot

Are you an oracle that could see what Martin was to become before Scully and Trengrove 9 years down the track? 

[Willmoy1947 3,762]

Coaches acknowledge Max then daylight, but somehow the Media just cannot get their collective heads out of  the "traditional" repository of wisdom to do the same.................

[Elegt 872]

40 minutes ago, Danelska said:

Are you an oracle that could see what Martin was to become before Scully and Trengrove 9 years down the track? 

every club interviewed martin apart from melbourne, he wasn't even considered by melbourne....

[beelzebub 22,225]

41 minutes ago, Danelska said:

Are you an oracle that could see what Martin was to become before Scully and Trengrove 9 years down the track? 

Martins playing credentials were better than HWSNBN. Unfortunately Martins life was a little 'Dusty' some say and many clubs , Mfc included , gave him a wide berth. 

Edited May 8, 2018 by beelzebub

[DubDee 20,363]

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

4 Dees in Cornes teamof the week

Hibberd Gawn Oliver Hogan

Well done lads.

Did you read the bit where it says Gawn is top 3 in the AFL right now and Hogan is the successor to Nick Reiwolt?!

[Redleg 37,478]

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

It reminds the sadist in me of Scully & Trengove before Dustin Martin. Sorry

We need to get over this one, as both the GWS player and JT were clearly rated ahead of Dusty by every club.

Port even offered us 2 picks under 10 for JT and we refused. Kelly in reverse.

But back to Dusty, he was offered to all clubs by his manager about 3 years ago and the Tigers were prepared to deal, but not one club stepped up. That is after he had played about 5 years with the Tigers and had been seen by every club. 

So how can you go back and criticise his not being taken as an untried 18 year old, in front of the 2 highest ranked players in the draft?

The two I can't get over and I know we need to move on, are Jimmy instead of Ollie and Lucas Cook instead of anyone else.

Edited May 8, 2018 by Redleg

[beelzebub 22,225]

18 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Did you read the bit where it says Gawn is top 3 in the AFL right now and Hogan is the successor to Nick Reiwolt?!

I just look at da pictures ...hjuck hjuck ???

Max is on fire....hope it spreads

[Elegt 872]

13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We need to get over this one, as both the GWS player and JT were clearly rated ahead of Dusty by every club.

Port even offered us 2 picks under 10 for JT and we refused. Kelly in reverse.

But back to Dusty, he was offered to all clubs by his manager about 3 years ago and the Tigers were prepared to deal, but not one club stepped up. That is after he had played about 5 years with the Tigers and had been seen by every club. 

So how can you go back and criticise his not being taken as an untried 18 year old, in front of the 2 highest ranked players in the draft?

The two I can't get over and I know we need to move on, are Jimmy instead of Ollie and Lucas Cook instead of anyone else.

everyone knew martin was the best player at the time the draft, Melbourne just couldn't handle the potential of him going off the rails. I honestly never rated JT but don't blame the recruiters for drafting Scully.

[Redleg 37,478]

3 minutes ago, Elegt said:

 I honestly never rated JT but don't blame the recruiters for drafting Scully.

Well you were at odds with nearly every club at that time.

BTW, until being screwed by the club, by being made captain at 21 of a shambles of a side and then copping a few foot injuries, JT was a good player for us who looked headed to playing 200 games with us.