Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Clarry better start than Judd?


Demonland

Recommended Posts

Juddy I think was more polished and explosive on the run, definitely like to get the ball on his foot. 

Clarrys a different beast, as good if not better then anyone in close by hand but he doesn’t tend to burst out of the pack and run like Judd.

probably more comparable to Voss then Judd but if turns out half as good as either, we got a seriously good player on our hands.

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

He's playing AFL midfielder minutes on ground now, too. 

He just gets the ball, and gets away a clean disposal, in ways other players just can't. We've been waiting for a star for so long, it still hasn't sunk in that we've finally landed a genuine one.

  • Like 12
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Nasher said:

He's playing AFL midfielder minutes on ground now, too. 

He just gets the ball, and gets away a clean disposal, in ways other players just can't. We've been waiting for a star for so long, it still hasn't sunk in that we've finally landed a genuine one.

Amen to that.

If he kicked more than he handballed then he would be considered one of the Top 10 players in the game already.  He stood up for us in the second half when others didn't - he had 23 touches of his own in the third and fourth quarters.  

He had 35 touches, 22 of them contested to go with 11 clearances and 8 tackles.  He does it every week without blinking an eye.  Absolute superstar.

  • Like 11
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Weird comparison with Judd. Plays nothing like him. Plus I can't imagine a Rebecca Twigley on his arm come Brownlow night (which, as it turns out, may be a good thing)

  • Like 2
  • Haha 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites


He's my favourite player, and is well on his way to being the best Demon midfielder in my lifetime.

Very different player to Judd though. While he's putting up far better numbers than Judd did, he doesn't have the explosive bust out of packs and he doesn't hit the scoreboard either. Judd would often go for a run, dance around some opposition and bang through 3-4 goals. His impact on games was huge, and faded in the second half of his career as his groin was shot so he lost his explosive pace. I love Clarry, but his impact isn't the same at this stage. If he starts hitting the scoreboard, then he'll genuinely be a top 5 player in the comp. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I believe he will go down in history as one of the greatest Dees midfielders of all time.....certainly the best in more than half a century. He is freakishly clean with his ball use in traffic and rarely wastes a disposal.

What a pleasure to watch him play.

 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

11 kicks ... 24 handballs

Needs to reverse that and then he will start getting the accolades he probably deserves from the commentators

Well hes playing to his strengths.

And when youre the best exponent of the handball since Greg Williams,  why not?

  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Potentially an absolute superstar.

I reckon he is more like a Jobe Watson (only quicker) by the way he keeps his hands high enabling him to handball so effectively .

He is getting more penetration with his kicking this year. Becoming a barometer for the team.:blink:

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Tony Tea said:

Not in the best 10 players under 23 according to AFL.com.on.drugs:

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-27/top10-under-23-we-rank-the-young-guns

Maybe that article was written by that googy egg Carlton fan he threatened over the fence?

I think the kicking aspect of his game is affected by where he gets most of the pill. He is usually ripping the ball out of packs and clearing from traffic where there is barely enough room to swing a cat. When he learns when to drift off, then look out.

Edited by Colin B. Flaubert
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The handball kick ratio is a myth. He is in the middle of packs using his hands to create space for his team.

I rate him massively and I'm still not convinced the wider footy public have caught on just how good he is in close.

Whoever didn't include him in the top 10 under 23 should honestly look for another profession.

  • Like 11
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

The handball kick ratio is a myth. He is in the middle of packs using his hands to create space for his team.

I rate him massively and I'm still not convinced the wider footy public have caught on just how good he is in close.

Whoever didn't include him in the top 10 under 23 should honestly look for another profession.

Was about to post something similar his kick to handball ratio is a massive myth but hard to kick when your in the bottom of a pack, he is kicking more than last year already, nothing wrong with his game he handballs to players in space who have more time to kick, no point him just blazing away blindly every time

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


I watched the first Q again.  They put massive effort into Clarry.  At one stoppage Christiansen physically held him away from the contest.  They blocked him and ran a hard tag, and he still smashed them.

his ability to get the ball is elite, his vision and speed to get it out is even better.  He hits players with handballs and they seem surprised.  For a stoppage guy, those numbers are fine hb/kick ratio.

glad he is one of ours!

  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

That thirty metre handpass to Trac in space which led to Hogan's 5th goal? Yeah … that was better than any [censored] kick.

  • Like 12
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Amen to that.

If he kicked more than he handballed then he would be considered one of the Top 10 players in the game already.  He stood up for us in the second half when others didn't - he had 23 touches of his own in the third and fourth quarters.  

He had 35 touches, 22 of them contested to go with 11 clearances and 8 tackles.  He does it every week without blinking an eye.  Absolute superstar.

Remarkable player, ball clearances expert. Goes in, gets the ball and uses it to advantage nearly every time. Takes a tag or two with poise and takes a knock or two with maturity. Beautiful kicking emphasised last night. Handball wizard. Virtually unstoppable across a game. Needs to run special skills clinics with all other players, just to teach them to think and do. 

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Best hands since Deisel Williams and a better kick. 

Good analogy, Chook. Faster too and I think he turns on a sixpence faster and narrower. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

According to Brown, Twomey and Harvey, he's ranked "above average", with Petracca, Hunt, TMac and Lever "elite". We also have a player named Penderson on our list.

TV is muted so I'm not sure what they're saying, but I'm sure whatever it is isn't worth listening to.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
  • Shocked 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

From the author of the top 10 under 23

Ben GuthrieVerified account @BenGuthrie_
FollowingFollowing @BenGuthrie_
More

Ben Guthrie Retweeted AFL.com.au

Clearly should have had Clayton Oliver on this list! ? The midfielder has been absolutely immense tonight. So clean in slippery conditions. #AFLLionsDees #thegameisingoodhands

 

  • Like 15
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 19th April 2024

    They are out for a run just as it starts raining. It didn't last long, ended up a reasonable session weather wise.  Light duties, BBB, rehab Farris-White, Melky, Salem and Spargo, all with private trainers. They are all playing soccer, huge amount of noise. 36-40 (difficult to get a count) in the main squad, biggest I've seen it in ages. Choco is barking out the orders. Goody has intense body language as he observes. Bowey in a lime green cap (no contact), and in the sim

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    ICEBREAKER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons have broken the ice for season 2024 with a pulsating come-from-behind victory over Port Melbourne in which it took the lead for the first time at the halfway mark of the final quarter. The game played in mild Autumn conditions in neutral territory at Kinetic Park, Frankston, never reached great heights in standard but it proved gripping in character at the end at the Casey Demons overcame the Borough to win by 15 points after trailing badly early in the second half.  P

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    MAULED by Whispering Jack

    The writing was on the wall from the very first bounce of the football. The big men went up, Max Gawn more often than not, decisively won the ruck hit out and invariably a Brisbane Lions onballer either won the battle on the ground or halved the contest and they went at it repeatedly until they finally won out. Melbourne managed the first goal from Alex Neal-Bullen but after that the visitors shut out every area of Demon presence around the ground except in the ruck duels. It was a mauling.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 4

    PREGAME: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    The Demons have a bye next week and have a 13 day break before they return to the MCG on ANZAC Eve to take on the Tigers. Who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 199

    PODCAST: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 15th April @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons loss at the MCG against the Lions in the Round 05. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat LIV

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 53

    VOTES: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    Last week Christian Petracca retook the outright lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Max Gawn, Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney. Your votes for the loss against the Lions. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 44

    POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demons 4 game winning streak has come to an end after a disappointing loss against the Brisbane Lions at the MCG going down by 22 points. 

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 505

    GAMEDAY: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    It's Game Day & Demons have a great opportunity to win their fifth game on the trot and go into the bye with 5 wins and one loss when they take on the Brisbane Lions at the MCG on the Thursday night big stage.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 833

    TRAINING: Wednesday 10th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Demon Dynasty were once again on hand at this morning's Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from training. KEV MARTIN'S CAPTAIN'S RUN OBSERVATIONS No-one in rehab this morning, a Captain's run, 26 players. Laurie, Tomlinson, Tholstrup, Chandler, Woey, and Kossie are out there. Rehabbers are out now. Marty, McAdam, Melky, Bowey, Sestan. As a guess for in and outs, I would say, out Laurie, Tomlinson, and W

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 06

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 06 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 06

  • Training  

    Friday, 19th April 2024

    Veteran Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin headed down to Gosch's Paddock today to bring you his observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 19

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The boys dissected the disappointing loss to Brisbane rueing our poor work at the stoppages, debated the role that fatigue played and lamenting the loss of Christian Salem ... LISTEN

    Demonland | April 16

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 06 vs Richmond

    The Demons have a bye next week and have a 13 day break before they return to the MCG on ANZAC Eve to take on the Tigers. Who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 16

  • Casey Report      

    ICE BREAKER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons have broken the ice for season 2024 with a pulsating come-from-behind victory over Port Melbourne in which it took the lead for the first time at the halfway mark of the final quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 14

  • Match Report      

    MAULED by Whispering Jack

    The writing was on the wall from the very first bounce of the football. The big men went up, Max Gawn more often than not, decisively won the ruck hit out and invariably a Brisbane Lions onballer either won the battle on the ground or halved the contest and they went at it repeatedly until they finally won out ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 12

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demons 4 game winning streak has come to an end after a disappointing loss against the Brisbane Lions at the MCG going down by 22 points ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    Last week Christian Petracca retook the outright lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Max Gawn, Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney. Your votes for the loss against the Lions. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    It's Game Day & the Demons have a great opportunity to win their fifth game on the trot and go into the bye with 5 wins and one loss when they take on the Brisbane Lions at the MCG on the Thursday night big stage ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Training  

    Wednesday, 10th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Demon Dynasty were once again on hand at this morning's Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 10

  • Match Preview      

    THE PEOPLE SPEAK by The Demonland Crew

    Good evening, Demon fans and welcome to the Demonland 2024 Grand Final Podcast … It’s been a beautiful last day of September and how sweet it is to bring you our coverage of all things that matter about the great Demon resurgence which we’ve seen over the past six or seven months ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 09

  • Training  

    Sunday, 7th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin ventured down in the rain to Gosch's Paddock for the Demon Family Series April School Holiday Open Training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 07

  • Training  

    Monday, 1st April 2024

    Our man on the spot Bendigo Demon traveled to Adelaide for our back to back games in the City of Churches and brings you his observations from the Demon's training session at Hisense Stadium ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 01

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 07

       vs   

    Wednesday 24th April 2024
    @ 07:25pm (MCG)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 1-2 Weeks
    Marty Hore Thumb 1-2 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 3 Weeks
    Christian Salem Hamstring 3-4 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 4-5 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 9-11 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Max Gawn 67
    2 Christian Petracca 55
    3 Steven May 35
    4 Jack Viney 28
    5 Alex Neal-Bullen 27
    6 Clayton Oliver 22
    7 Bayley Fritsch 19
    8 Trent Rivers 16
    9 Judd McVee 15
    10 Kade Chandler 14

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...