Post Match Discussion - Round 1

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 minute ago, clark's kick said:

I'm not at all confident about next week.

The lions won't be easy beats this year, and we are mentally poor in games like this.

If we win, it won't be by much. 

Brisbane should be favourites.

Beams and Zorko will destroy us.

[picket fence 15,086]

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

Brisbane should be favourites.

Beams and Zorko will destroy us.

YEP!! 

[Older demon 2,166]

40 minutes ago, Brownie said:

yep he shouldnt have said a thing but the bloke tripped over his own feet.

the ump gave to 50m when Lewis just said "he tripped over his own feet"

its s*$t but leaders should just shut their mouths.

Lewis is in the team for leadership. He said more that that to the umpre, I suspect it was more in the line of the ump going and getting photographed. It cost us a goal and we lost by 3 points. Lewis looke right off the play today it was not his best game.

 

Edited March 25, 2018 by Older demon

[Demon Dynasty 15,355]

36 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

You reckon shills aren’t important?

Wattsy would’ve been handy wouldn’t he?

I just don’t know what Goodys doing with this team.

Leaves out high possession winners in Tyson and Brayshaw and includes plodders in Maynard and Wagner .

Lever looked like a skinny 12 year old.

We would’ve lost that by ten goals had Danger played

Watts wouldn't have missed a set shot for the winner today if he had had the chance.  What price for accuracy in today's game!??

[Gator 16,891]

Posters question Goodwin, who just coached a side with a game-plan that yielded 23 more inside 50s than the opposition, which nearly always results in a win. 

Never change, Demonland. 

[DeeSpencer 23,087]

2 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Salem was not good at any point but willing to give him a pass for that hit. Would want to do more and show some desperation next week.

He provided the balance around the stoppages in the first quarter and a bit that others didn't. We needed that sweeper when others would dive after the ball. I'm surprised he stayed on after that hit.

In fact it's laughable that we have a blood rule when the chances of getting a blood borne disease on a footy field is almost zero, yet when a player gets poleaxed if he stays on he gets to take his kick and keep playing.

Salem stayed in the centre square for the next stoppage after that hit and he was miles off the play. A smart team would've dragged him as soon as possible to get his assessed and out of the game until he was cleared.

[Demon Dynasty 15,355]

51 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Can't question the effort. Can question the terrible decision making. Constant bombing forward to outnumbered contests. Defenders all flying for the same ball and none staying down.

We bullied Geelong in every way today and still managed to lose. Embarrassing to lose that one. We are a far better team than them now and we need to start playing like it.

Great point Lord and nothing's changed in that regard.... so much so that there's also nobody front and square for the crumb!  Garlett also flying!!??  ....go figure!  Very basic stuff that other teams seem to do with ease.

[faultydet 7,593]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Jetta had a mare. Looks very slow. Thought Wagner justified his place. 

Hope they are angry as hell next week.

*groan*

We were supposed to be mad after our capitulation against colonwood in the final round last year.''

Again, went to sleep for a full qtr.  A team who sleeps for a qtr every week will never be a premiership threat. 

 

Once again, we fail at the mental side of the game

Infuriating.

[rjay 23,884]

On 24/03/2018 at 10:54 AM, stevethemanjordan said:

Top post. 

Agree with all. Those who question the Tyson decision are some of the the same ones who questioned the Melksham trade. 

 

On 24/03/2018 at 11:00 AM, rjay said:

Long bow there 'steve'...

..but I do question the Tyson decision and also the reasoning behind it. Maynard hasn't shown enough at senior level to justify his selection, disposal very iffy and runs to wrong positions.

Sunday I guess will be the judge.

 

On 24/03/2018 at 11:07 AM, Satyriconhome said:

1 game? Didn't get BOG?

 

On 24/03/2018 at 11:11 AM, rjay said:

I'm looking at the JLT (and AFLX for what it's worth) games 'Sat'...I don't think he did enough to justify selection.

...but as I say, Sunday will be the judge.

I'm not knocking Maynard but am critical of the selection.

I think he needs more time to round out his game at Casey.

Sunday came and the proof was there to see...

[Demon Dynasty 15,355]

54 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

No where in the second qtre

Had plenty of friends RBG

[jumbo returns 6,486]

i50s is an ambiguous stat

The ball can come in and out several times without a result

It's what you do with the i50s that counts

[loges 6,011]

10 minutes ago, picket fence said:

1 We traded our best ball User Watts and got?? And we are still paying part of his Salary

2 The Cancelled camp tells me and plenty  AND those in the footy world that we are SOFT

3 None selections of Frost, Tyson and Gus baffling

4 Goodwin has no idea how to counter run and spread

5 We still make unforced skill errors

6 I don't blame Max at all as wehade numerous chances to win it BUT having said that a senior player from 20 out should have nailed it! Watts Would have!

7 We still have a hell of a lot to learn.

8 TYPICAL BLOODY MELBOURNE FC

 

Watts wouldn't have taken the mark.

[Bay Riffin 1,413]

55 minutes ago, Hot as Hell said:

We played Geelong's weakened best 19 fit players and were found short. 

Optimists around here need to take note about how we play under pressure. 

I will stick with my 13 to 15 win season and we limp in around 6th to 8th to play finals. Making up the numbers. 

I will be happy to go to games like today and win a few and lose a few. 

Don't expect better sides to let us off so lightly.  

Our backline is full of holes that will not be plugged and we have to play some aging players who are simply better than their immediate substitutes. 

I coach with 1 year under his belt and a my way or the highway style is not ready to take us any further for a few years yet. 

 

Well those weakened players just didn’t miss targets in the first half. We hit a team on song and almost snatched it. 

Yes 1 year in and I think Goodwin is still learning. One straight kick and we would be back slapping late into the night. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,355]

56 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Agreed. Sure he’ll get suspended but that’s how you make a stand, not giving away a 50 for mouthing off like an idiot. 

Our leadership continues to be a problem. Jones was good, but FMD our senior players have no idea. Jetta was good as always and I don’t know why he isn’t in the leadership team. More of a leader than Lewis!

I thought Jetta was beaten on the day Jaded.  That hand ball in the last quarter just shy of the square also cost us momentum and a goal (i think).

[What 18,810]

1 minute ago, loges said:

Watts wouldn't have taken the mark.

LOL exactly

[faultydet 7,593]

32 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

But the Cats were up for it, it was Selwood's 250th and Ablett's return game after all.

 

Good God, when are we ever going to stop reading this as an excuse after a loss.

IT WAS THE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON. EVERY TEAM SHOULD BE UP.

 

Great signs that we came back after being 5 goals down however. That was certainly a positive.

Edited March 25, 2018 by faultydet

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Silver lining... everything we stuffed up is fixable (except skill)

[Nasher 33,047]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

*groan*

We were supposed to be mad after our capitulation against colonwood in the final round last year.''

Again, went to sleep for a full qtr.  A team who sleeps for a qtr every week will never be a premiership threat. 

 

Once again, we fail at the mental side of the game

Infuriating.

It doesn't even matter whether they're angry or not anyway. Anger isn't the only motivator and in my opinion it's a poor one. It just seems to be the only one some people understand, but I've never seen anyone do their best work while angry.

[Winners at last 4,708]

The inevitability of the outcome is sad. The only upside is that I had money on Geelong. (I'd rather have lost the bet though.)

 

[leave it to deever 15,305]

It has to be said Watts would have been handy.

[rjay 23,884]

4 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Posters question Goodwin, who just coached a side with a game-plan that yielded 23 more inside 50s than the opposition, which nearly always results in a win. 

Never change, Demonland. 

I question some of his judgement calls but that goes with the territory, he's still an immature coach.

The problem with those 23 more inside 50's was the positioning of forwards and the bombing of the ball.

The game plan fell well short when we moved forward, we need to provide and look for targets.

Some times we need to finesse the ball movement a bit more and not just go full tilt.

The Cats where waiting for it and it's what we gave them.

It became easy for them to repel our forward thrusts...

[Tony Tea 2,785]

I like to think we were a good side beaten by a good opponent, but I'm not sure how good Geelong is.

Ablett and Selwood are all time greats, tho. So Geelong can't be too bad.

[Nasher 33,047]

Just now, leave it to deever said:

It has to be said Watts would have been handy.

It really doesn't.

[Demon Dynasty 15,355]

58 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

What was that I said - over and over - about getting smarter going forward?

We are clearly off in this area TT and have been for a mighty long time.  We will not make finals unless this is fixed and we start lowering our eyes and hitting more targets both just outside the arc and inside obviously.

[Moonshadow 16,157]