Billy Hartung

[CityDee 738]

Havnt seen alot but the things that stand out are his attack  toughness and his speed . 

Could be worth a look 

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,418]

18 minutes ago, CityDee said:

Havnt seen alot but the things that stand out are his attack  toughness and his speed . 

Could be worth a look 

Are you talking about the same player as everyone else?

[Redleg 37,556]

We do need more speed, but don't need another ball butcher and turnover merchant. 

[george_on_the_outer 6,962]

Hartung may be something to look at as a small forward to complement Jeff Garlett.  Didn't stand a chance of getting that role with Puopolo and Rioli around. 

Closer to goal the turnover factor becomes less of a problem, but speed to get out the back is important the way the game is played today, as we have seen with Jeff doing it so well. 

I trust Jason Taylor and the team to do the due diligence, and if he is what we need then......

[KingDingAling 3,593]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

We do need more speed, but don't need another ball butcher and turnover merchant. 

I reckon that is spot on. He may be quick, but he isn't very effective. There isn't much point being quick if you are just going to turn it over. I haven't been impressed by Hartung at all. He needs to learn to use his quickness in congestion (get the ball out of a pack and run). Needs to kick better as well. I am not surprised he got delisted.

[KingDingAling 3,593]

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Hartung may be something to look at as a small forward to complement Jeff Garlett.  Didn't stand a chance of getting that role with Puopolo and Rioli around. 

Closer to goal the turnover factor becomes less of a problem, but speed to get out the back is important the way the game is played today, as we have seen with Jeff doing it so well. 

I trust Jason Taylor and the team to do the due diligence, and if he is what we need then......

Garlett's skills are insane though. He is very gifted, and has tremendous goal sense. Hartung is neither gifted (skills wise) or goal conscious. Garlett is also better in close. I don't think Hartung would compliment Garlett at all. ANB would buy and sell Hartung around goal. I suspect JKH would as well (but I wouldn't go out on a limb with that). Harmes loves a goal as well.

[faultydet 7,593]

17 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Garlett's skills are insane though. He is very gifted, and has tremendous goal sense. Hartung is neither gifted (skills wise) or goal conscious. Garlett is also better in close. I don't think Hartung would compliment Garlett at all. ANB would buy and sell Hartung around goal. I suspect JKH would as well (but I wouldn't go out on a limb with that). Harmes loves a goal as well.

Don't know much at all about Hartung, but it's nice to see some love for ANB.

My brother was on to him early on, and I wondered what he smoking. He seemed to come on very quickly this year, and by seasons end, I actually though he has one of the best "footy brains" on the entire list. Always looking for, and generally finding an option in better position, even when he could be forgiven for having a ping himself.

I see him as starting 18, with a full list available.

[Dr evil 1,185]

I suspect the speed issue is something we'll look to address in the draft, Hartung i don't think fits the model for the type of players we want or need.

He's not a competitor, he isn't a good tackler, he's ball use is very poor at times and his only real AFL asset is his speed, which i also think is overrated. 

[spirit of norm smith 12,890]

Heard that the Lions are his likely suitor.  Also Weagles may be interested which may be due to the running space available in the West.  #nocontestedfooty

[Deespicable 2,544]

He fits our urgent outside run and speed need and then it gets down to whether his kicking skills are deemed good enough.

I'd be happy if we took him as even if he is a bit of a bust, he improves our depth, but Tubby Taylor would be a better judge on this.

[samcantstandya 918]

11 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

He fits our urgent outside run and speed need and then it gets down to whether his kicking skills are deemed good enough.

I'd be happy if we took him as even if he is a bit of a bust, he improves our depth, but Tubby Taylor would be a better judge on this.

I don't want any player who is a crap kick

[Redleg 37,556]

22 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

I don't want any player who is a crap kick

That is why Hawks got rid of him.

[spirit of norm smith 12,890]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

That is why Hawks got rid of him.

Exactly.  Move on here. No more turnover specialists.

[CityDee 738]

On 2017-10-29 at 1:07 PM, Is Dom Is Good said:

Are you talking about the same player as everyone else?

Honestly what I have seen of this guy was a good hard running attack on the footy . Small sample size though. 

[Pennant St Dee 11,257]

On 31/10/2017 at 6:22 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Heard that the Lions are his likely suitor.  Also Weagles may be interested which may be due to the running space available in the West.  #nocontestedfooty

The running spaces in the West is a myth. Subiaco (which wont be used anymore) was longer than the G but not as wide it's why the forward press, full press and web defences Freo and Meth Coast adopted between 2011 & 2016 worked

[Brayshaw Self 847]

Yuck

[monoccular 16,042]

On 01/11/2017 at 1:24 PM, samcantstandya said:

I don't want any player who is a crap kick

 

On 01/11/2017 at 1:47 PM, Redleg said:

That is why Hawks got rid of him.

More the surprise is why they recruited him in the first place, given their penchant for kicking skills and competitiveness 

[maximum bob 462]

We need icing on top of the cake. Hartung doesn't cut it. A Hawk reject from a club which has ambitions for a spot in the finals 2018. Surely tells you something.

[pitmaster 3,059]

I've made my opinion clear near the start of this thread and enough agree with me...can we just stop talking about this phoney who goes to water under pressure.

I would be astonished if in the same off season we dropped Jack W that we picked up this [censored].

Edited November 8, 2017 by pitmaster

[Hardley Benial 460]

6 hours ago, pitmaster said:

I've made my opinion clear near the start of this thread and enough agree with me...can we just stop talking about this phoney who goes to water under pressure.

I would be astonished if in the same off season we dropped Jack W that we picked up this [censored].

Agree. He a fast running & aggressive tackler but a kicking muppet. Not needed here.

[dieter 3,325]

The Billy Hartung post is even more boring and unnecessary than the Jack Watts post.

The only difference is I wanted Jack to stay.

Billy H? A Thousand times NO.

[spirit of norm smith 12,890]

It’s a no no no no no no from me 

[picket fence 15,103]

8 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s a no no no no no no from me 

And I'll quadruple gazump that as well!

NO WAY KNOWN!

[Cheap Seats 3,300]

I can't believe I agree with @picket fence

But if we trade JW and pick up Hartung then I will join @picket fence in the angry emails to the club

Edited November 10, 2017 by Unleash Hell
Y trade a soft @#$% and pick up another? #picketfence #makesnosense #ilovehastags

[dieter 3,325]

Please no more Hartung threads. 

NO. A THOUSAND TIMES NO.!!!!