NOW FOR THE DRAFT

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,381]

16 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

He will end up a good athletic build.

Seen much of him? 

I don't believe I've seen him. But if he was standing sideways I might have missed him.

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

58 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Because people that post anonymously on the internet are 40yr old virgins that have an unhealthy obsession with ponies.

Have we met? 

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I don't believe I've seen him. But if he was standing sideways I might have missed him.

It's an error.  He is 85kg at last weigh in. 

[DV8 2,271]

18 hours ago, Dr.D said:

I love it how recruiters have full time jobs where they spend pouring over hours and hours of vision, looking at a draftees under 16 form, under 18 form, they interview them, they have psychologists providing feedback, they analyse their values/morals through a series of interviews, they analyse trends in their physical conditioning and find out as much as possible from external sources such as school teachers/sports coaches etc in order to make informed decisions and here we have demonlanders just jumping on youtube or reading a little player profile and thinking 'oh we must go for this guy or we must go for that guy'. Unless you've done recruiting work, I don't wanna hear about it. 

Your right Dr.  How dare we indulge ourselves, & be critical of our recruiters of days gone by.

What would we know.

Come to think of it, we shouldn't watch the game and cheer or boo as well, as we aren't Pro players or coaches, so we wouldn't be qualified to make any judgement at all, of the AFL's game.

You make a valid point, good Dr.

[Dr. Mubutu 690]

15 hours ago, The Great Pretender said:

I don't understand why the club doesn't retain Corey Maynard as a Category B rookie for another year to enable it to have room if required for a pick in the rookie draft?

One reason I can see is that the FD see good things in Maynard and are keen to select him as the 'designated rookie' able to be selected from round 1.
I'm sure those more across the rules than I am can offer further insights, but that's how I saw the situation.

[Skuit 9,109]

On 10/21/2017 at 3:04 PM, Dr.D said:

I love it how recruiters have full time jobs where they spend pouring over hours and hours of vision, looking at a draftees under 16 form, under 18 form, they interview them, they have psychologists providing feedback, they analyse their values/morals through a series of interviews, they analyse trends in their physical conditioning and find out as much as possible from external sources such as school teachers/sports coaches etc in order to make informed decisions and here we have demonlanders just jumping on youtube or reading a little player profile and thinking 'oh we must go for this guy or we must go for that guy'. Unless you've done recruiting work, I don't wanna hear about it. 

There was a recruiter who once drafted Morton. He had a full-time job as a recruiter. He presumably spent hours and hours pouring over footage of Morton. He no doubt interviewed Morton, and maybe even ordered a psych report on Morton. He perhaps spoke to Morton's school-teachers and sports' coaches, possibly even  Morton's mum: who, for the sake of economy, we'll presume here to call Mrs.  Morton. I do have my doubts that our star recruiter cared much for trends in physical conditioning, but, regardless, the point of this story, is. simply, Morton.

[Demonised 1,198]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

There was a recruiter who once drafted Morton. He had a full-time job as a recruiter. He presumably spent hours and hours pouring over footage of Morton. He no doubt interviewed Morton, and maybe even ordered a psych report on Morton. He perhaps spoke to Morton's school-teachers and sports' coaches, possibly even  Morton's mum: who, for the sake of economy, we'll presume here to call Mrs.  Morton. I do have my doubts that our star recruiter cared much for trends in physical conditioning, but, regardless, the point of this story, is. simply, Morton.

Hmmm ... post needs more Morton.

[Dee Zephyr 17,296]

2 hours ago, Demonised said:

Hmmm ... post needs more Morton.

Thought it was a productive post-Morton.

[Dr.D 1,771]

 

21 hours ago, DV8 said:

Your right Dr.  How dare we indulge ourselves, & be critical of our recruiters of days gone by.

What would we know.

Come to think of it, we shouldn't watch the game and cheer or boo as well, as we aren't Pro players or coaches, so we wouldn't be qualified to make any judgement at all, of the AFL's game.

You make a valid point, good Dr.

There's a difference between saying 'this guy looks good' and 'I think we should take this guy at 29'. Has anyone ranked the top 40 and have them in order or something? 

 

[Nascent 7,200]

On 22/10/2017 at 2:13 PM, Stretch Johnson said:

Have we met? 

Mum says I shouldn't talk to strangers.

[bing181 8,149]

13 hours ago, Skuit said:

There was a recruiter who once drafted Morton ...

Just as there have been any number of recruiters who did the same and passed on players who subsequently went 3rd/4th round/rookie, and then went on to be AA and win Brownlows.

[DV8 2,271]

3 hours ago, Dr.D said:

 

There's a difference between saying 'this guy looks good' and 'I think we should take this guy at 29'. Has anyone ranked the top 40 and have them in order or something? 

 

What are you even doing on here.   Your so far above this forum level?

You must be working professionally in a club somewhere?

I think THEY are speculating, poor dears.  But hey, lets let them keep it up, it keeps them out of mum's hair before dinner.

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

21 hours ago, Dr. Mubutu said:

One reason I can see is that the FD see good things in Maynard and are keen to select him as the 'designated rookie' able to be selected from round 1.
I'm sure those more across the rules than I am can offer further insights, but that's how I saw the situation.

All cat a rookies can play from round 1 next year, no need to wait for an injury. Cat b still would have to wait. Might be more a show of faith more than anything

[hillie 41]

6 hours ago, Dr.D said:

 

There's a difference between saying 'this guy looks good' and 'I think we should take this guy at 29'. Has anyone ranked the top 40 and have them in order or something? 

 

there is a long list often publicised in the media at our football clubs expense of our poor track record in the draft when it was the most critical time to get it right. Craig Cameron leaving during this period and then us appointing Barry Prendegast as head recruiter is the worst appointment in the history of this club. Worse than any player picked or coach hired. He was hopeless. As you know, he left for carlton before we could give him the sack, in a completely different role nothing to do with recruiting. I've said on many occasions, we would of had a good team if I was in charge of recruiting during this time. They'd all be the same type of player, hard tough ball winners, but still, you wouldn't have a toumpas or a lucas cook bust. Add in Gawn and Howe, who they did pick when I wanted them too.  Anyway enough pumping my own tyres whilst lamenting.

 

There's good reason west coast have done what they have this year with getting heavily invested in the second round. The talent in WA are around those picks and should really fill needs of theirs. Unfortunately they are also needs of ours. Goal kicking mids and small forwards. In order of who I'd pick this year with the players who I think will be around/ available at our picks are.

 

tim kelly

brendan starcevich

gryan myers

liam ryan

bailey frietch

matthew ling

Hamish Brayshaw

there are a couple of other's I wouldn't be to upset with in the mix but depending on who we do draft at 29 and 31, will affect on the later choices

That order is my order of preference (especially the first 4). Like I said, others would come into the mix with frietch/ling(who should be well gone by pick 47) and brayshaw, depending on who we do get with the first two picks.

Get those first 4 and I'd be over the moon. convinced the first 2 will be going to west coast before us though. they have 3 pick before us before we have 2 picks, before their next choice.

time will tell

 

 

[ChaserJ 3,956]

A couple of players who may be around at our picks who I wouldn't mind us taking. Spargo had been fringes of the top 20 before he hurt his shoulder and missed the Championships. He probably slides a bit as others have been playing and getting exposure.

Bailey was good for the Allies in most games I saw him play, with an additional couple of centimeters and a little bit more consistency in his ball use would be further up the order.

Ross can use the ball well and has an intriguing athletic profile and might be a reasonable fit on the wing.

(Profiles from AFL Draft Central)

Zac Bailey

Inside Midfielder (Southern Districts/Allies)
23/09/1999 | 180cm | 68kg
Scouting notes: Has a great burst of speed and he isn’t afraid to collect the ball and burst out of a stoppage getting distance on himself from his opponents. The right footer is usually a clean kick but can have the odd poor game by foot. Wins the contested ball and tackles well.

Last month: Was one of PACs best through the midfield against Scotch in South Australian school boy football. In the 2017 South Australian State Championship game against Henley High, Bailey was able to break free at the stoppages and was damaging getting the ball forward. He won best-on-ground honours for his performance on the night.

 Charlie Spargo


Inside Midfielder/Small Forward (Murray Bushrangers/Allies)
25/11/1999 | 175cm | 73kg
Scouting notes: Small bite-sized midfielder who cracks in hard. Despite his size he wins the ball in the contest and tackles hard. Is one of the few midfielders who has a good goal sense and is a hard match-up when deep inside 50. Was originally zoned to GWS but it is now ineligible for GWS to select him under changes to their Academy zone. Has had shoulder surgery which will rule him out for the season.

Last month: Missed the entire month recovering from shoulder surgery. Was invited to the National Combine and will still interview with clubs there.

Jackson Ross

Outside Midfielder/Medium Forward (Haileybury College/Eastern Ranges)
22/06/1999 | 192cm | 75kg
Scouting notes: Booted 29 goals playing as a centre half forward and on the wing for Haileybury College in the APS school competition. Comes from an elite tennis background and is still quite raw in football terms. Has a long kick and is able to use it on either side of his body. Very athletic and has a National Combine invite.

Last month: Booted five goals against Calder Cannons in Round 16 in a very strong performance, and whilst was quiet in the game against Geelong Falcons the following week – he did some good things on Saturday with nine disposals and three tackles. There’s plenty to like about Ross and a big finals series could push him up clubs boards.

[WERRIDEE 5,198]

On ‎22‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 8:05 AM, The Great Pretender said:

I don't understand why the club doesn't retain Corey Maynard as a Category B rookie for another year to enable it to have room if required for a pick in the rookie draft?

He's a category a rookie so he can play round 1 straight away. If he was category b he would have wait until their was a long term injury to play.

[WERRIDEE 5,198]

 

[old55 21,204]

Clubs with picks right around our first 3:

West Coast tend to take West Australians, AFAIK there are no GWS or Sydney Academy players likely to be selected before these picks and eat them up.

26. West Coast (received from Gold Coast via pick swap, originally received from Hawthorn in 2016)

27. Greater Western Sydney (received from St Kilda in 2016) 

28. Greater Western Sydney (received from Carlton for Matthew Kennedy, originally received from Western Bulldogs via pick swap)

29. Melbourne

30. Carlton (received from Western Bulldogs via pick swap, originally received from Essendon via Jake Stringer strade)

31. Melbourne (received from Port Adelaide via Jack Watts trade)

32. West Coast

33. Sydney

34. St Kilda (received from Port Adelaide via pick swap, received from Hawthorn as part of Jarman Impey trade, originally received from GWS in 2016)

35. Geelong

36. Melbourne (received from Adelaide via Jake Lever trade)

37. West Coast (received from Gold Coast via pick swap, originally received from Richmond in 2016)

Edited November 1, 2017 by Fifty-5

[spirit of norm smith 12,830]

I agree that Jackson Ross has some good attributes but not Top 50 IMO.  Definitely a good athlete but doesn’t get enough of the footy.  Saw him in 3 games and whilst he showed skill, I had 5-8 players ahead of him at Ranges. 

Will probably be late pick or a definite low Rookie pick.