CLASH JUMPERS IN GRAND FINAL

[rjay 23,883]

If the Tigers play Adelaide in the GF, only one team has a traditional jumper and should wear it.

The thought of the made up team from Adelaide having a traditional jumper at this early stage of their lifetime is laughable. Next we will be talking about GWS's traditional supporter base or some such.

I'm not a Tiges fan by any means but the precedent needs to be set before we play our next one.

As we are the most traditional team in the competition, having founded it there should then be no argument against us wearing our traditional strip, the most traditional strip in the game.

[deelete my account 1,194]

I just hope the away clash guernsey designers at MFC are watching, next year is the most important year for you to step up! 

[Skuit 9,122]

Hate to say it, but I use to experience a Demons/Crows clash (as one of the very few). If we were to meet them in the Granny and they finished above us, I would just have to suck it up I suppose. I'd rather not lose a coin-toss going in. But god forbid we win a flag wearing that white Bali monstrosity of this year. 

[Demonland 64,628]

I loathe our white away strip and I feel for Richmond more if they have to wear the yellow over Adelaide having to wear their away strip. Having said that shouldn't the higher ranked team be given the choice considering that's how the finals system works in relation to "home" teams?

Clash strips were not an issue for over a hundred years. 

[ManDee 7,073]

Surely it is the responsibility of new clubs to avoid clashing with old clubs.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,404]

25 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Surely it is the responsibility of new clubs to avoid clashing with old clubs.

We clash with Essendon and Carlton though. Unfortunately we just have design a better clash strip as this issue isn't going away.

[Demonland 64,628]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We clash with Essendon and Carlton though. Unfortunately we just have design a better clash strip as this issue isn't going away.

If we must have a clash strip (do Collingwood?) then I prefer the Red Strip over the White Strip.

[ManDee 7,073]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We clash with Essendon and Carlton though. Unfortunately we just have design a better clash strip as this issue isn't going away.

Dr G, they clash with us.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,404]

3 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Dr G, they clash with us.

Semantics

[Dr. Gonzo 22,404]

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If we must have a clash strip (do Collingwood?) then I prefer the Red Strip over the White Strip.

I agree, a reverse strip or even the pale blue if the 70s/80s would be prefer to the Bintang. Unfortunately the AFL told us some years ago that we can't have a red clash strip though now Essendon has one. Probably worth going back to them again as we all know they change with the wind.

[ManDee 7,073]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Semantics

Not semantics, we are a foundation club, if those that come later choose a strip that clashes with us that is their problem not ours.

 

Edit:- Let them wear pink, Oh wait!

Edited September 21, 2017 by ManDee

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Clash strips were not an issue for over a hundred years. 

Rolling mauls and 36 players within 50m of goal were also not an issue for over a hundred years. The pace of the game is a lot faster too. Grounds are dry and player don't get covered in mud.

But! Those are justifications and not real reasons. I have never heard a player say they got confused. The one and only was when the umps wore pink when we wore pink and our players were handballing to the umps.

I think the white shorts for away is all that's needed, until it proves problematic. So far the reasons for away strips seems to be based on guesswork.

I wonder who the AFL are doing this half-arsed clash jumper bizzo for. The players, the spectators, "theatre goers" who only watch on TV ... ? Want to copy the EPL? Want to sell more merchandise? I wonder if they know themselves.

In typical AFL fashion, they don't have a real policy, it's all on the run and they play favourites at every turn.

* pink umpires in pink cancer game

* clubs in dark jumpers sometimes play other clubs in dark jumpers. Usually ones that can make a lot of noise when their presidents are irritated.

* EFC and Carl played each other and each time wore their usual jumpers and the away team wore white shorts.This did not seem to be a problem for anyone, including AFL house

* C'wood get concessions that no other club gets.... their "away" jumper is a laughable "alternative" strip. Yet every sensible suggestion for (eg) MFC is shot down. Port have been shafted and they have a case that they're the older club.

* "rules" for what avoids a clash are arbitrary. Red is a dark colour when you're an easily shoved around minnow, but not a dark colour when you're a big drawing favourite of headquarters.

 

 

In summary: the AFL policy is no policy at all. If they want to go EPL on this, then decree that EVERY club must have an away strip for every away game. Mostly white. But simpler, more traditional, and hardly confusing, is to have every team wear dark shorts for home and white shorts for away.

 

If there is a genuine problem on the playing field with that, the AFL won't have to wait long before some high profile presidents are screaming that it is a problem and it "could cost someone a grand final!!!"

So far, not a sniff of that.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We clash with Essendon and Carlton though. Unfortunately we just have design a better clash strip as this issue isn't going away.

Spot on. We have to push harder for an all red clash, OR I believe we should look at a light Blue and Red alternate. In EPL Football it is mandatory for each club to produce 3 kits. We have done this in previous seasons. We need to come up with 3 replicas of the traditional home jumper. One in White, one in either red (inverted) or light blue. It is that simple. Do away with the cheap training looking logo clash strip. They are putrid and it makes me barf seeing kids wearing them. 

[Bossdog 2,002]

A couple of times this year I turned on the TV to watch the footy.   I knew straight away who the home side was(Traditional jumpers)   but had to look closely to see who the side was that was mostly white   Was it Adelaide, Fremantle. Carlton,Port, Gold Coast?    Talk about confusing.   But we should know that the footy suporters are dumb and need to be led by the hand by the all wise AFL.   

If they say we can't tell the difference.....Well who are we to argue.

[Sir Why You Little 34,430]

27 minutes ago, Bossdog said:

A couple of times this year I turned on the TV to watch the footy.   I knew straight away who the home side was(Traditional jumpers)   but had to look closely to see who the side was that was mostly white   Was it Adelaide, Fremantle. Carlton,Port, Gold Coast?    Talk about confusing.   But we should know that the footy suporters are dumb and need to be led by the hand by the all wise AFL.   

If they say we can't tell the difference.....Well who are we to argue.

Yes. Turn on the TV and wonder who the opponent is. 

I hate that. 

And Sorry we the MFC do not Clash with a Carlton or Essendrug Jumper

i find that arguement from posters on here highly offensive

[Ebenezer Murgatroyd 4]

I shudder to think about us wearing that white abomination in a Grand Final. At least St Kildas and Freos clash jumpers still retain the design elements that are theirs alone

that is why we should only ever wear the redback jumper if we ‘clash’

[puntkick 325]

Sorry to say ,but 2018 's going to reveal we've got more to worry about than clash jumpers.

2017 revealed it !

[Gorgoroth 12,308]

If the tigers win I hope they are made to wear the yellow top. It would make m feel warm and fuzzy at all their whinging.

[bush demon 1,876]

It's all about branding. The AFL want AFL jumpers, not football jumpers.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,416]

I think the club should look at an alternative with a lighter blue (similar to the Dog's) that we can wear against Carlton, St Kilda, Adelaide & Essendon. Would anyone be against that when comparing it to the white?

In regards to the GF, if there is a 'clash' as determined by the AFL, then surely the team who finished higher gets to choose? Gill really is spineless choosing to flip a coin! Just to appease the Tigers fans.

[deebug 1,754]

10 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

I think the club should look at an alternative with a lighter blue (similar to the Dog's) that we can wear against Carlton, St Kilda, Adelaide & Essendon. Would anyone be against that when comparing it to the white?

In regards to the GF, if there is a 'clash' as determined by the AFL, then surely the team who finished higher gets to choose? Gill really is spineless choosing to flip a coin! Just to appease the Tigers fans.

Sorry but no light blue for me, been there done that in the 80s, didn't like then still don't like it today.

Why can't we just have one jumper all navy blue and one that is all red ? 

[Demonland 64,628]

15 hours ago, Ebenezer Murgatroyd said:

I shudder to think about us wearing that white abomination in a Grand Final. At least St Kildas and Freos clash jumpers still retain the design elements that are theirs alone

that is why we should only ever wear the redback jumper if we ‘clash’

I really like the Red Back jumper but I do not think that it satisfies the AFL's "clash" requirements.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,416]

1 hour ago, deebug said:

Sorry but no light blue for me, been there done that in the 80s, didn't like then still don't like it today.

Why can't we just have one jumper all navy blue and one that is all red ? 

I understand your concerns. But all red doesn't really do it for me either.

I want to be as close to our 'traditional' jumper as possible and a lighter blue could do that.

If they go with a red jumper I hope they put some genuine thought into it rather than just slapping an emblem on it!

[Constant Mongrel 571]

our colours are red and dark blue. not light blue, not white.. just work with the colours we have. farrrrrrrq. this issue will go on for years.. at first mention of crows v tiges clash i thought top team should wear home jumper, but someone mentioned above that oldest team should have priority.. i like that too. BUT. what if two teams met in the GF that joined the comp in the same year? coin toss? lol

[Sir Why You Little 34,430]

9 minutes ago, Rocky said:

our colours are red and dark blue. not light blue, not white.. just work with the colours we have. farrrrrrrq. this issue will go on for years.. at first mention of crows v tiges clash i thought top team should wear home jumper, but someone mentioned above that oldest team should have priority.. i like that too. BUT. what if two teams met in the GF that joined the comp in the same year? coin toss? lol

Clash Jumpers exist purely for extra marketing and sales

The Clash exists because the AFL want to believe there is one

HD Televisions exist 

There is no clash