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Here is a rumour - something exciting is going to happen.  Nah, just more tumbleweeds.  They should make the trade period 2 hours, not two weeks, long - that would be entertaining!

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Sorry, Zac is just tooooooooo aggressive for us, and bloody Bartel would put the umpires on our side too much......

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50 minutes ago, Beetle said:

 

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looks like Howe at the Browlow

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38 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

Checked for lice?

Nah, career defining foot issues...

Ironically, that was a trade supposed to net us Lever...

#worldworksinmysteriousways

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2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I'm hearing a very strong rumour that a straight swap of Watts for Zak Jones is on the cards.

Haven't heard that nor has my source

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3 hours ago, sue said:

precisely - he finished somewhere in the middle when messiah acolytes expected him to be in the top 3 or better and can't get over the fact that he was just a naughty boy.

Watts' finishes in the B&F:

2016 5th

2015 18th

2014 10th

2013 11th

2012 16th

2011 9th

2010 25th

No-one anywhere has said they expect him to be in our top 3 in the B&F but if you really believe the above is a good return for someone with so much talent then all I can say is I am glad you are not in charge of our recruiting & list management.

And from Watts' own mouth at the B&F last year upon receiving his fifth-place award: “I’ll make it (speech) short, it’s taken me a while to get up here (on stage). “Usually, I’m down there feeling a bit awkward drinking free p---”.

Can you imagine Viney saying that?

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1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

Watts' finishes in the B&F:

2016 5th

2015 18th

2014 10th

2013 11th

2012 16th

2011 9th

2010 25th

No-one anywhere has said they expect him to be in our top 3 in the B&F but if you really believe the above is a good return for someone with so much talent then all I can say is I am glad you are not in charge of our recruiting & list management.

And from Watts' own mouth at the B&F last year upon receiving his fifth-place award: “I’ll make it (speech) short, it’s taken me a while to get up here (on stage). “Usually, I’m down there feeling a bit awkward drinking free p---”.

Can you imagine Viney saying that?

There it is again.  Watts not judged on his output (a middling player who occasionally turns it on) but on what he could have been.    He suffers because he is a failed messiah.

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1 minute ago, sue said:

There it is again.  Watts not judged on his output (a middling player who occasionally turns it on) but on what he could have been.    He suffers because he is a failed messiah.

You didn’t see him play sport as a teenager, did you?

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3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I thought he gave an update on the midfielder and said it was Balic.

That was @Roost It. @Siren's player was supposedly a mid from a victorian club.

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12 minutes ago, sue said:

There it is again.  Watts not judged on his output (a middling player who occasionally turns it on) but on what he could have been.    He suffers because he is a failed messiah.

Oh dear...do you have access to his GPS numbers and training stats Sue? Do you have access to the game plan and what Watts is instructed to do in a game?

Do you think the coaches (pro tip: who vote in the B&F) might have a reasonable idea of what he does and what he should be doing? For those if us outside the club the B&F is the best guide to how a player is judged by those that matter. And in that, Jack is a failure - regardless of where he was drafted.

Your unquestioning support of Jack is touching but in reality grounded in emotive claptrap. You need to get a grip.

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11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You didn’t see him play sport as a teenager, did you?

no. I presume he was a star? So what - are you just confirming what I said - too much expectation has led to an unreasonable reaction

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Just now, sue said:

no. I presume he was a star? So what - are you just confirming what I said - too much expectation has led to an unreasonable reaction

Jack was so much better than all the kids around him. He never had to push himself. 

Sadly that has carried on through his AFL career. 

The expectation was deserved. He didn’t push himself nearly as hard as he could have

Which is where he finds himself right now, under achieved sadly

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18 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Oh dear...do you have access to his GPS numbers and training stats Sue? Do you have access to the game plan and what Watts is instructed to do in a game?

Do you think the coaches (pro tip: who vote in the B&F) might have a reasonable idea of what he does and what he should be doing? For those if us outside the club the B&F is the best guide to how a player is judged by those that matter. And in that, Jack is a failure - regardless of where he was drafted.

Your unquestioning support of Jack is touching but in reality grounded in emotive claptrap. You need to get a grip.

I'm staggered about what you read into what I say.  Am I saying he is a star? No. And thus disagreeing with the FD?  No again. I'm saying he is a middling player (look at his B&F results) who is hammered by some supporters because they can't get over their disappointment that he is not the Messiah.  It's not me that needs to get a grip.

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So no new names popped up today, no doubt that rumour we were into a gun mid was total rubbish. 

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2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

So no new names popped up today, no doubt that rumour we were into a gun mid was total rubbish. 

bit annoyed about that one @Petraccattack?? Best to take most things with a grain of salt methinks... you'd hope people don't make $hite up on here for the sake of it :rolleyes:

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6 minutes ago, Danelska said:

bit annoyed about that one @Petraccattack?? Best to take most things with a grain of salt methinks... you'd hope people don't make $hite up on here for the sake of it :rolleyes:

Patience...

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2 minutes ago, Siren said:

Patience...

Do you have any further information, as in club or player? Hartung's been thrown around in the last day or so, but no mention of us being involved/interested.

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Jack was so much better than all the kids around him. He never had to push himself. 

Sadly that has carried on through his AFL career. 

The expectation was deserved. He didn’t push himself nearly as hard as he could have

Which is where he finds himself right now, under achieved sadly

I swear you are living on a different planet.

But I must confess you always give me a good giggle. Keep posting keep up the great work. 

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3 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Do you have any further information, as in club or player? Hartung's been thrown around in the last day or so, but no mention of us being involved/interested.

Had confirmarion from a separate person but not going to speculate till I get something concrete 

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2 minutes ago, Siren said:

Had confirmarion from a separate person but not going to speculate till I get something concrete 

No worries, cheers.

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From Twitter, (for which I make no claims. On the other hand, would make sense)

"Other the Lever and Balic, do the dees have any interest in further midfield/forward depth options, or are they likely to go to the draft?"

"They do, but cap will come into play. Hamstrung somewhat."

 

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A thought: not a rumour.

It appears that there is an increasing number of players that are looking to move within the trade period and that has been the result of the push by the players association. What will be the impact of this over time? Will it mean that the clubs have to re-think what they offer and what they ask for? With the increasing number of trades that are looking to get done I believe it will have the impact of lowering the value offered and asked for. 

In my opinion, the AFL should shorten the trade period to 7 days and allow the negotiations to take place for 24hrs of those 7 days and that those 7 days should be immediately prior to the draft. I think this would concentrate the minds of the footy departments in the clubs.

Any club that is not fully staffed and working towards the evolving nature of the draft/trade scenario and is not showing flexibility and imagination in this area will be left behind. I believe the trading period is much more important than the draft as the trade period gives a club a chance to make immediate structural changes to the list rather than wait on the development of youngsters.

 

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36 minutes ago, Siren said:

Patience...

Ahh, that wasn't a crack at you at all - just an acknowledgement that we all want instant gratification and solid gold nuggets...

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