Buckley's Demise

[Mach5 4,482]

4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yeah, I like Eddie.  He has been good for football despite his bloopers.  Now his passion for his club is blinding him to what really benefits his club.

As an update: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/revealed-pies-secret-blueprint-for-future-success-including-revamped-footy-department/news-story/c36d3fcbf1915621d970e6a0456e0779

If its true that Ch7 were able to film thru a boardroom window it is mind-boggling incompetent by Collingwood. 

On the list of things to fix is:  "Improving specific areas of Collingwood’s game, including kicking skills, goal kicking, tackling and ruck work".   One wonders what Buckley and co have been doing for 6 years.  They should let him go.

Has he?

Or do you just drink the kool-aid?

[Wrecker45 3,378]

The other thing with Buckley is he is obsessed with statistics yet doesn't understand them.

Listen to how often he brings them up in interviews and then think of the relevance of the stat.

One of my favourites was hearing how many % of the time Wells kicked the ball into the forward 50m at North Melbourne. Of course North had a completely different game plan and set of players surrounding him. 

[Dwight Schrute 16,722]

I reckon if after six years you don't know it your senior coach is good at his job, he's almost certainly not. They're made a string of awful decisions around him that haven't helped but the game play to me is ultra defensive but if you look at the players in his midfield they're all attacking mids. He's not playing to the strengths of the list. Taylor Adams is their only decent two way mis. Treloar and Sidebottom are almost exclusively offensive mids 

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Pumped that Bucks might stay. Richest club in the land and completely hamstrung by egos. If they keep him it'll be about Eddie and how they think they're better than everyone else. It'll blow up in their faces and we get to watch them implode year after year.

[hemingway 7,583]

Interesting. Despite his record, there are players who have done well under his reign.  Howe and Dunn are two examples. Both are playing better footy with the Pies than they did with the Demons. 

The feeling I have is that the Collingwood hierarchy would dispense with Buckles if there was a better option. The fact is that there is not anyone out there with a proven track record who is available. Excluding Paul Roos. 

[Demons1858 1,657]

What l find both ironic and pleasing is that melbourne until the last 12 months or so were critised by the the likes of Wallace and Barrett on trade radio each year whilst Derek Hine, Bucks and the CFC were lauded. Think Jesse White, Clinton Young, Russell Jordan, Quinton Lynch, Patrick Karnezis, Daniel Wells, Aish, Sharenberg, Freeman. Just shows that opinions are like ar-seholes everybodies got one and not all experts are equal

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

9 hours ago, Abe said:

I reckon if after six years you don't know it your senior coach is good at his job, he's almost certainly not.

Obvious to everyone except the magpie monarch.

Eddie will burn down the joint to keep Nathan.

The sticking point could be that Nathan is too proud to continue like this.

 

8 hours ago, hemingway said:

Interesting. Despite his record, there are players who have done well under his reign.  Howe and Dunn are two examples. Both are playing better footy with the Pies than they did with the Demons. 

Not so sure. Could be, but Dunn, for all his decent play, has made some significant howlers too.

[Jara 1,149]

59 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

What l find both ironic and pleasing is that melbourne until the last 12 months or so were critised by the the likes of Wallace and Barrett on trade radio each year whilst Derek Hine, Bucks and the CFC were lauded. Think Jesse White, Clinton Young, Russell Jordan, Quinton Lynch, Patrick Karnezis, Daniel Wells, Aish, Sharenberg, Freeman. Just shows that opinions are like ar-seholes everybodies got one and not all experts are equal

Excellent point. IMHO not all experts are equal but a-holes, in general, are.

[beelzebub 22,225]

5 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

What l find both ironic and pleasing is that melbourne until the last 12 months or so were critised by the the likes of Wallace and Barrett on trade radio each year whilst Derek Hine, Bucks and the CFC were lauded. Think Jesse White, Clinton Young, Russell Jordan, Quinton Lynch, Patrick Karnezis, Daniel Wells, Aish, Sharenberg, Freeman. Just shows that opinions are like ar-seholes everybodies got one and not all experts are equal

Yes...well highlighted.

Collingwood the new franchise owner of "Mediocrity" 

[Goffer 256]

Collingwoods problem is the entire footy dept not just Buckley. Their list manager has made some shocking calls, and now they're paying the price for it. To be fair to Buckley his attitude towards Mayne suggested to me that he didn't want Mayne in the first place, which may indicate that decisions are being made for him on that front. 

Would have to believe it's hubris informing these decisions however, and the handling of Buckley is similar to how they handled Cloke. Denial that there was a problem, persisting with him despite the diminishing returns, and going to ever more outlandish methods to turn it around (hiring a sports psychologist for one) rather than dropping him. Once he got the bullet though it was pretty quick and I have a feeling Buckleys will play out the same way

[ManDee 7,073]

From :- The Age

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has suggested the only reason to sack a coach is if he has completely lost the faith of his players. 

Hey Eddie, what if he can't coach?