Buckley's Demise

[dl4e 5,581]

Didn't Buckley say after last season that if the filth didn't make the finals then he wouldn't coach them anymore. What a hypocrite.

Be all that as it may I hope Buckley ( who probably already knows ) and the team know he is coaching next year before the game Saturday as I think they will be easier to beat than a mob giving him the last hurrah.

[deelete my account 1,194]

2 hours ago, AzzKikA said:

I really really want him to stay so he drives them further into the ground. I wonder who the next aging injury prone over 30 player he will recruit this year?

The year after next, The aging injury prone player Eddie will recruit, will be Scott Pendlebury as coach. Another unlikeable overly serious captain that will have half the playing groups respect.

Edited August 22, 2017 by Wrecked Owl Dees Function

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I actually like Buckley.

Hope we beat his side by 80 points this Saturday.

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

Sack the recruiter, get in a new one.

Change the assistant coaches.

Get in a Roos-type mentor for Bucks

New football manager

New fitness people

Different brand of oranges for half time

..... and then hope that against all evidence to date, that Bucks can coach.

 

All so Eddie doesn't have to admit he made a mistake.

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

Keep Bucks there forever.

A change of coach might take them up the pointy end. Not good for the constitution.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Interesting ( read ...delicious ) dilemma for the Poies !!

Either they  turf Bucks, or they keep him. But if keeping him they can't just sign him for another year, nor would I suspect Bucks agree to that. So any which way they are now faced with rolling Dice big time....all with no certainty.  Wonderful watching someone ELSE  stare into the abyss !!

[Macca 16,173]

If Buckley was going to be dispensed with, we'd almost certainly know about it. 

The Pert departure was the 'tell' in my eyes.  The other tell is how many of their players going in early for ops. 

At best, he's an average/reasonable coach.  And their list is average as well.  At times it looks like they're switched on and playing for him but most of the time they're not. 

One good game followed by an average one then a shocker.  And they don't win when they're average. 

[dees189227 10,701]

Collingwood are going to dead set be ready to knock us out of the finals. also Howe and Dunn will want to knock us over as well. 

Ed said on his breakfast show on monday how much the pies want to win and maybe knock us out. 

We have to be switched on and ready to go from the 1st bounce. 

[Pates 9,536]

The funny thing about this Buckley situation is that I swear I remember Nathan himself saying that if they didn't make the finals he would step down himself.

FWIW I actually don't think he's a bad coach, but it might be a case of he knows more about the caper now that he's been in it longer. He should've done a full apprenticeship at a different club to gain some alternative insights. It was a stupid romantic move by Eddie and it's backfired.

As for how things could play out Sunday, we need to look at this as a final. It essentially is in a lot of ways. Play it like it's an elimination final, hit them hard, and play like men possessed. We ARE better than them, we just need to bring the finals intensity to this game and we'll win.

[Biffen 12,298]

A 15 goal win would end Buckley and probably Eddies tenure and might give us a good push onto the finals.

[Cards13 9,117]

6 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

There is nothing more certain than them retaining Buckley; win, lose or draw.

Heads will roll all around him, but not his.

Sanderson and Gotch are the only 2 others going again next year, none of the other assistants have had contracts have been renewed. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,150]

5 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Sanderson and Gotch are the only 2 others going again next year, none of the other assistants have had contracts have been renewed. 

I think even the receptionists may as well clean out their desks too - complete clean out.

 

 

(with the exception of N.Buckley and E.McGuire) 

[pineapple dee 2,892]

6 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

There is nothing more certain than them retaining Buckley; win, lose or draw.

Heads will roll all around him, but not his.

The Collingwood members have had a gutful of Buckley and they're cooling on Eddie as well. On that basis, I hope both stay on. They're doing just fine.

[Big Demon 197]

I am perfectly happy for Eddie & co offer their coach a ten year extension, he is doing a mighty job.

 

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Buckley need a few major things

1) A director of coaching wh understands how to build an empire. Like Paul Roos

2) An assistant coach with an understanding and even an influence on the way the game is played. Like Goodwin.

3) Fitness staff? When Mission came to Melbourne he had a 3 year plan. I don't think Collingwood'a GPSnumbers would match ours. They might but then their runnining patterns are wrong. See point 1 and 2.

[DV8 2,271]

10 hours ago, AzzKikA said:

I really really want him to stay so he drives them further into the ground. I wonder who the next aging injury prone over 30 player he will recruit this year?

Who Eddie. He surely want's them to fail.  He broke the premiership circle, got rid of the winning coach, for his love child coach in waiting.

And now he overseas the removal of others like the CEO, etc.  All the while he just smirks, & hides in his media smart ways.

[Deestroy All 14,261]

Chris Mayne will get a 5 year senior coach deal. You heard it here first. 

 

I like Buckley. Not as a coach though. Hope he stays.

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

Their demise since 2011 has been Melbourne-esque.  Every part of their club has slowly become a rabble. 

• Recruiting:  wasted top draft picks on poor choices (Freeman, Kennedy) and 'young stars' (Treloar, Adams, WH-E, Aish).  Then burdened themselves with ageing, injury prone and expensive list cloggers. 
• Football Ops:  Revolving door of Football Managers and Directors with Walsh, Eade, Balme, Gubby, Walsh
• Admin:  Long standing favourite son CEO gone.  Now looking at Lethlean who has no experience at club level
• President:  Keeps finding new ways of embarrassing himself and his club with ignorant comments.
• Team:  Has a few smart alec players who think they deserve to be playing finals because they work hard.  Have yet to learn the meaning of 'Team' or what their game plan is.
• Coach:  Has surrounded himself with buddies and can't develop or communicate a decent game plan.  Saved only because of love child status with Eddie.

They are deluding themselves if they think a bit of tweaking here and there will get them out of the quagmire.  They are in for more pain before they realise they need to do a proper list rebuild ala Demons (WB and Carlton) but as usual they want the quick fix to buy their way back up the ladder.

I like Eddie but he is blinded by his passion for his club. 

Popcorn time!

Edited August 22, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[CityDee 738]

Surely a successful club with all the money and resources that collingwood has have the correct coaching staff on the books.

sack the coach and risk any prize recruits coming your way .

I look forward to lever or kelly signing with a finals team with a steady and positive future. 

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

Who gives a @#$%. 

Keep him, sack him, marry him. 

Not our coach, not our problem.

[doc roet 1,198]

And then they come out and thump us.

Shut up you lot.

[rjay 23,866]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I like Eddie

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Edited August 22, 2017 by rjay

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

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Yeah, I like Eddie.  He has been good for football despite his bloopers.  Now his passion for his club is blinding him to what really benefits his club.

As an update: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/revealed-pies-secret-blueprint-for-future-success-including-revamped-footy-department/news-story/c36d3fcbf1915621d970e6a0456e0779

If its true that Ch7 were able to film thru a boardroom window it is mind-boggling incompetent by Collingwood. 

On the list of things to fix is:  "Improving specific areas of Collingwood’s game, including kicking skills, goal kicking, tackling and ruck work".   One wonders what Buckley and co have been doing for 6 years.  They should let him go.

Edited August 22, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

10 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Buckley need a few major things

1) A director of coaching wh understands how to build an empire. Like Paul Roos

2) An assistant coach with an understanding and even an influence on the way the game is played. Like Goodwin.

3) Fitness staff? When Mission came to Melbourne he had a 3 year plan. I don't think Collingwood'a GPSnumbers would match ours. They might but then their runnining patterns are wrong. See point 1 and 2.

4) an ability to coach at AFL level would be a handy plus

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

Eddie can't separate out what's good for Collingwood, what's good for Buckley, and what's good for Eddie.

They are all one and the same to him.