Casey Demons v Williamstown

[KC from Casey 6,514]

The Casey Demons are at home against top-of-the-ladder Williamstown this Saturday in the Channel 7 game of the round and need the win to keep alive their hopes of a top four finish.

The teams met at Burbank Oval in the opening round of the season when the home side won by 23 points. Casey had Angus Brayshaw, Michael Hibberd, Oscar McDonald and Cam Pedersen among its Melbourne contingent of a dozen. The team makeup will be different this time and the team has matured.

Look out for the return of Tomas Bugg from suspension.

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PETER JACKSON VFL 2017
CASEY DEMONS  v WILLIAMSTOWN
Casey Fields [Channel 7 TV Game]
Saturday 19th August, 2017 at 2.10pm

CASEY DEMONS 

B: 59. S. Frost, 1. J. Hutchins, 64. A. Brayshaw
HB: 65. J. Watts, 44. T. Bugg,  6. J. Munro
C: 19. M.  Hannan, 54. J.  Trengove, 15. B.  Stretch
HF: 45. D. Keilty, 26. S. Weideman, 48. C. Maynard
F: 2. B. Fritsch, 55. L. Hulett, 63. J. Wagner
FOLL: 34. M. King, 69. B. Kennedy, 57. J. Kennedy-Harris
I/C (from) 5. W. Collis,  23. M. Cox, 35. A. Ferreira, 49. N. Foote, 9. M. Gent, 51. B. Giobbi, 25. D. Gordon, 36. Dan Johnston, 42. M. Lefau*, 24. G. Lok, 17. E. Morris, 27. A. Scott, 7. Y. Zijai

IN: A. Brayshaw, T. Bugg, M. Cox, N. Foote, S. Frost, M. Hannan,  Dan Johnston, M. Lefau, C. Maynard, J. Wagner, S. Weideman

OUT: D. Johnstone, C. Porter, C. Salem

WILLIAMSTOWN

B: 17. J. Charleston, 7. N. Sing, 21. J. Tippett
HB: 35. B. Myers, 30. K. Gray, 16. B. Bewley
C: 22. J.  Pickess, 6. M.  Gibbons, 5. L.  Schultz
HF: 10. L. Masters, 13. A. Cordy, 19. D. Kempster
F: 33. T. Currie, 14. A. Siposs, 2. B. Cavarra
FOLL:  49. N. Meese, 9. A. Marcon, 24. W. Wheeler
I/C (from): 47. L. Bramble, 28. C. Buykx-Smith, 27. J. Chisari, 32. T. Condon*, 36. T. Davies, 11. J. Dorgan, 40. B. Monk, 26. J. Newman, 20. M. Norton

IN: B. Bewley, L. Bramble, C. Buykx-Smith, T. Currie, T. Davies, K. Gray, D. Kempster, , B. Monk,  M. Norton

OUT: S. Dunell, P. Faulks, J. Greiser,  B. Jolley, J. Pongracic

* 23rd player

AFL VIC DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE 2017         
CASEY DEMONS  v WILLIAMSTOWN
Casey Fields 
Saturday 19th August, 2017 at 11.00am 

CASEY DEMONS 

B: 12. J. Lovett, 20. N. Gardiner, 32. J. Briggs
HB: 22. G. Lok, 36. D. Johnston, 46. D. Johnston
C: 75. S.  Dwyer, 3. C.  Ambler, 23. M.  Cox
HF: 5. D. Collis, 51. B. Giobbi, 17. E. Morris
F: 63. K. Byers, 24. J. Moncrieff, 18. B. Hillard
FOLL: 16. J. Gains, 8. T. Vander Haar, 49. N. Foote

I/C (from): 80. D. Allsop, 70. T. Armour, 31. T. Baker, 10. A. Cotte,  81. K. Dickson,  39. J. Di Pasquale, 68. E. East, 4. J. Freeman, 62. L. Gill-Renouf, 21. J. Kingi,   66. P. Lewis-Smith, 33. C. Machaya, 29. J. Rout

IN: A. Cotte, K. Dickson, E. East, B. Giobbi, L. Gill-Renouf, J. Kingi, G. Lok,  E. Morris, J. Rout

Out: M. Lefau

WILLIAMSTOWN 

B: 37. N. Ebinger, 41. J. Minogue, 40. B. Monk
HB: 12. C. Yeo, 36. T. Davies, 45. L. Carter
C: 50. F.  Carroll, 51. M.  Philpot, 42. B.  Romensky
HF: 1. E. Carr, 34. L. McMahon, 44. J. Owen
F: 48. T. Wilkinson, 29. J. Burke, 28. C. Buykx-Smith
FOLL: 46. J. Gray, 47. L. Bramble, 39. L. Knight
I/C (from):  56. L. Andrew, 54. J. Dundon, 43. J. Eales, 38. A. Giuliano, 53. L. Goetz, 57. J. Haddara, 55. D. Smith

IN: L. Andrew, E. Carr, J. Eales, A. Giuliano, L. Goetz, J. Haddara, C. Yeo

OUT: T. Currie, K. Gray, D. Henderson, D. Kempster, M. Norton 

[spirit of norm smith 12,886]

Hope Wattsy stars.  Shame Salem misses as Williamstown are very very good bunch of VFL players. Joel Tippett still is AFL quality and Siposs is classy.  Close one.  

[picket fence 15,095]

Wonderful!!!!  Watts to press claims at ( CAP) Casey Arctic Park amidst rain, sleet, hail, and all other forms of abominable weather! Yeah great!

Edited August 17, 2017 by picket fence

[Whispering_Jack 27,959]

Jake Spencer is really going to be missed because when they played Williamstown earlier in the year their ruckman Meese destroyed the Casey team almost singlehanded.

[w00dy 146]

Are Williamstown ready for Tommy Bugg?

[Drunkn167 5,093]

6 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Jake Spencer is really going to be missed because when they played Williamstown earlier in the year their ruckman Meese destroyed the Casey team almost singlehanded.

Meese is in great form at the moment too, had 94 hit-outs against Footscray a couple of weeks ago. Gonna be a big test for King and Watts. 
No Salem, but I'm expecting Bugg to come out swinging (hopefully not literally)

With Keilty, Frost and Hutchins down back it's gonna be hard for Williamstown to score, but the Gulls are one of only 2 teams to have beaten Casey at Casey Fields in the last 2 years. I'm cautiously optimistic we can win, but it's not gonna be easy. 

[3726062254 5]

Very Keen to see how Bugg responds to having 6 weeks to reflect on a poor and costly decision.

Watts is a player I have always loved, I hope he can turn it around this week as he WILL be an important part of the team come finals, when he is on, he is just fantastic to watch.

Hoping Frost destroys the back line (in a positive manner) as he also will be important next week and come finals.

Looking forward to watching the game Saturday, 3rd v 4th

[PaulRB 5,915]

8 hours ago, picket fence said:

Wonderful!!!!  Watts to press claims at ( CAP) Casey Arctic Park amidst rain, sleet, hail, and all other forms of abominable weather! Yeah great!

Isn't it great! We finally have a meritocracy at the MFC where players have to earn their spots, and work hard to keep them.

Bodes well for the future. 

Edited August 17, 2017 by PaulRB

[Cards13 9,117]

6 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

Meese is in great form at the moment too, had 94 hit-outs against Footscray a couple of weeks ago. Gonna be a big test for King and Watts. 
No Salem, but I'm expecting Bugg to come out swinging (hopefully not literally)

With Keilty, Frost and Hutchins down back it's gonna be hard for Williamstown to score, but the Gulls are one of only 2 teams to have beaten Casey at Casey Fields in the last 2 years. I'm cautiously optimistic we can win, but it's not gonna be easy. 

What?! 94 in one game?! How many stoppages/ goals in that game.

[Drunkn167 5,093]

3 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

What?! 94 in one game?! How many stoppages/ goals in that game.

Just pulling up the stats now.

FYI for anyone that is interested, you can download the 'Footy Live' app for IOS which eventually has all the stats from all the high-level games nation wide. AFL, VFL, SANFL, WAFL, NEAFL etc. Its pretty great.

So it was round 15 (3 weeks ago) Williamstown home game, they beat the Dogs 102 - 23. Willy kicked 16.6 where as Footscray kicked 2.11

It doesn't tell me any stoppage stats but the Dogs actually won the inside 50 count 57-45. The disposals, kicks, handballs, marks, and tackles are all about even but Willy had double the Rebound 50's, and obviously for whatever reason the Dogs just wasted all opportunities going forward, probably had some crazy wind down at Burbank Oval that day.

It's hard to know going from this limited information to really tell, but to me it looks to me that even with the ruck dominance (103-37 hit-outs for the day) Footscray's midfield still won the majority looking at the Inside 50's and Rebound 50's count. Its hard to get a good understanding of this game because those are some crazy stats, and without actually seeing it I couldn't tell you exactly but that's what I can extract from the information.

Hopefully being a Casey Home game, even if it is windy we seem to use it well at home so the ruck dominance shouldn't matter too much.

When Casey played Williamstown in Round 1 they lost the hit-outs 83-18, and lost the game by 4 goals. That was at Burbank Oval however, and although you could argue the Casey line up was stronger that day, given Pedo, Hibbo, O.Mac and Bull were playing that day, with Frost and Bugg into the side, along with Casey's current form and home ground advantage, this is absolutely Casey's game to lose.

 

 

Sorry for the long winded response, but I do love my footy stats 

[Whispering_Jack 27,959]

1 hour ago, Drunkn167 said:

Just pulling up the stats now.

FYI for anyone that is interested, you can download the 'Footy Live' app for IOS which eventually has all the stats from all the high-level games nation wide. AFL, VFL, SANFL, WAFL, NEAFL etc. Its pretty great.

So it was round 15 (3 weeks ago) Williamstown home game, they beat the Dogs 102 - 23. Willy kicked 16.6 where as Footscray kicked 2.11

It doesn't tell me any stoppage stats but the Dogs actually won the inside 50 count 57-45. The disposals, kicks, handballs, marks, and tackles are all about even but Willy had double the Rebound 50's, and obviously for whatever reason the Dogs just wasted all opportunities going forward, probably had some crazy wind down at Burbank Oval that day.

It's hard to know going from this limited information to really tell, but to me it looks to me that even with the ruck dominance (103-37 hit-outs for the day) Footscray's midfield still won the majority looking at the Inside 50's and Rebound 50's count. Its hard to get a good understanding of this game because those are some crazy stats, and without actually seeing it I couldn't tell you exactly but that's what I can extract from the information.

Hopefully being a Casey Home game, even if it is windy we seem to use it well at home so the ruck dominance shouldn't matter too much.

When Casey played Williamstown in Round 1 they lost the hit-outs 83-18, and lost the game by 4 goals. That was at Burbank Oval however, and although you could argue the Casey line up was stronger that day, given Pedo, Hibbo, O.Mac and Bull were playing that day, with Frost and Bugg into the side, along with Casey's current form and home ground advantage, this is absolutely Casey's game to lose.

 

 

Sorry for the long winded response, but I do love my footy stats 

Meese's stats on the day were 8 kicks, 9 handballs, 17 disposals, 1 mark, 10 tackles, 1 inside 50, 3 rebound 50s, 4 frees for and 2 frees against ... and yes, 94 hit outs for 183 dream team points.  The Footscray ruckman had 29 hit outs and the Bulldogs are in fourth spot on the ladder.

[doc roet 1,199]

2.10 pm  - live on 7 if anyone's interested.

Good line up.

Frost    Hutchins    A Brayshaw

Watts     Bugg         Munro

Hannon   Trengrove   Strech

 Kielty     Weiderman    Maynard

Fritsch     Hulett      Wagner

King   Kennedy     JKH 

Be interesting to see how Bugg & Watts go and I hope Frosty puts in a good one.

[Whispering_Jack 27,959]

Good news about Declan Keilty having his contact renewed for a further year. 

I'll be watching the game (on 7) with interest today to see how he goes. 

[KC from Casey 6,514]

28 minutes ago, doc roet said:

2.10 pm  - live on 7 if anyone's interested.

Good line up.

Frost    Hutchins    A Brayshaw

Watts     Bugg         Munro

Hannon   Trengrove   Strech

 Kielty     Weiderman    Maynard

Fritsch     Hulett      Wagner

King   Kennedy     JKH 

Be interesting to see how Bugg & Watts go and I hope Frosty puts in a good one.

They won't be lining up like that doc.

Brayshaw, Hannan, Stretch and Wagner are all playing for Melbourne tomorrow and one other will come out as an emergency for that game.

[Roger Mellie 3,487]

18 minutes ago, KC from Casey said:

They won't be lining up like that doc.

Brayshaw, Hannan, Stretch and Wagner are all playing for Melbourne tomorrow and one other will come out as an emergency for that game.

I think it was mentioned that Kennedy was the emergency.

[The Chazz 4,077]

18 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Meese's stats on the day were 8 kicks, 9 handballs, 17 disposals, 1 mark, 10 tackles, 1 inside 50, 3 rebound 50s, 4 frees for and 2 frees against ... and yes, 94 hit outs for 183 dream team points.  The Footscray ruckman had 29 hit outs and the Bulldogs are in fourth spot on the ladder.

Why isn't this bloke on a rookie list at minimum?  Is he too old?

If he's less than 30, I'd have no hesitation giving him a rookie list spot for 12 months, just as insurance.

This is based on absolutely nothing other than what is written in this thread, but my word, a ruck at VFL to can dominate like that won't be out of place as a back up of a back up ruck in the big league.

[Drunkn167 5,093]

5 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Why isn't this bloke on a rookie list at minimum?  Is he too old?

If he's less than 30, I'd have no hesitation giving him a rookie list spot for 12 months, just as insurance.

This is based on absolutely nothing other than what is written in this thread, but my word, a ruck at VFL to can dominate like that won't be out of place as a back up of a back up ruck in the big league.

I've asked myself the same question, the dude is an absolute beast and destroys anyone he rucks against. He just out-bodies everyone who tries to take him on.

Im not sure the reason he's never been on an AFL list, maybe he's been offered in the past but turned it down because he has a great career already? I don't know, Rookies don't make a lot of money. Also from what I've seen, his endurance is pretty terrible and requires a swap out quite frequently, which doesn't sit well with a lot of AFL coaches. Maybe he likes to drink and smoke a lot, who knows. 

[Whispering_Jack 27,959]

16 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Why isn't this bloke on a rookie list at minimum?  Is he too old?

If he's less than 30, I'd have no hesitation giving him a rookie list spot for 12 months, just as insurance.

This is based on absolutely nothing other than what is written in this thread, but my word, a ruck at VFL to can dominate like that won't be out of place as a back up of a back up ruck in the big league.

He's probably a bit past it now. The bio on the Williamstown FC site says he's 197cm tall, weighs 105kg and turns 29 next month. I regard him as the type who could dominate at VFL level but not quite make it in the big league - a bit like North Ballarat's Orren Stephenson who got a late AFL call up but was unable to make the transition successfully although at times, was used as a back up ruckman with moderate results.

 

[Demon trucker 1,737]

19 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Meese's stats on the day were 8 kicks, 9 handballs, 17 disposals, 1 mark, 10 tackles, 1 inside 50, 3 rebound 50s, 4 frees for and 2 frees against ... and yes, 94 hit outs for 183 dream team points.  The Footscray ruckman had 29 hit outs and the Bulldogs are in fourth spot on the ladder.

 don't get seduced by the hit out numbers, I would think that not many of those hitouts would have been to advantage, most would of been straight down to ruckmans feet, where there would of been stoppage after stoppage to get that many hitouts

[KC from Casey 6,514]

It's quarter time in the Development League game with the Casey Demons leading 4.3.27 to Williamstown 2.3.15 

Goals Allsop Cox Di Pasquale Vander Haar

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

What are the ground conditions like KC?

[KC from Casey 6,514]

2 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

What are the ground conditions like KC?

Overcast and windy as usual VP.

Casey Demons 9.7.61 lead Williamstown 4.5.29 at half time in the DL -

Goals Cox 2 Allsop Ambler Di Pasquale Foote Lewis-Smith Machaya Vander Haar

[Drunkn167 5,093]

Just arrived. It's wet but doesn't look like a lot of rain is coming, a little windy but I don't think it'll be too bad. Should be a good day for footy.

[KC from Casey 6,514]

3 QT Casey Demons 14.13.97 to Williamstown 5.5.35 

Goals Cox  Foote Machaya 2 Allsop Ambler Briggs Cottee Di Pasquale Gardiner  Lewis-Smith Vander Haar

[DeeZone 7,700]

Go Casey!!!!