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26 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Plus Grimes and Simon Buckley.

Don't forget Chris Johnson.

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Won't leave the Saints but he's an obvious talent that could fill a need for us. He's got outside class and has proven he can win ball and stand up in big moments. He's had a great year and would offer a lot to our side... but he won't leave the Saints.

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billings for tyson?

i think the saints have completely misused him, burying him deep in the forward line - no idea if it's for injury reasons or what have you, but he's a much better player than he's shown thus far in 2018

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He’s too soft for our team. 

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Billings is a big ‘what might have been’ for us. Roos has said that the Kelly vs Tyson/Pick 9 debate is void as we rated Billings at pick 2 that year.

Billings vs Tyson, Salem and Hunt... I think we’ve come out ahead.

https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/paul-roos-reveals-new-spin-on-2013s-blockbuster-trade-between-melbourne-and-gws-giants/news-story/20f8f893a20fcd0c57cf90e413938e49

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He's soft, but he's also someone who I believe they have totally misused this season.  He could be a weapon for them through the midfield, but either through poor fitness or an unwillingness to play him there, he's languishing in their dysfunctional forward line.

I don't think I'd be interested in him, but he's just the sort of player who could leave and dominate elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

billings for tyson?

i think the saints have completely misused him, burying him deep in the forward line - no idea if it's for injury reasons or what have you, but he's a much better player than he's shown thus far in 2018

Was a good kick for goal as a junior, don't quite know what's gone on at St Kilda.

Could give us more outside run through the midfield & his field kicking is still good.

Would be funny if we used Tyson in a trade to finally get him, think we could get more out of him than St Kilda has.

Had quite a good year in 2017 and was probably their best against us in Rd 21.

Can imagine if Taylor & Viney believe in him as a player chances are we've already picked up the phone.

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1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

billings for tyson?

i think the saints have completely misused him, burying him deep in the forward line - no idea if it's for injury reasons or what have you, but he's a much better player than he's shown thus far in 2018

Billings for Tyson in a heartbeat. If we had to add to that deal we could - and should. I would prefer we traded into Gresham, but if Billings is all we could get I'd be keen on that. Jack Billings is going to be a very good football player, he just looks disinterested and unhappy at times (too many times and most times). I suspect he isn't happy at St Kilda, would probably be a far better player in a better side. We should at least ask the question. Tyson is too slow for our side, he will struggle to even break back into it, plus he isn't versatile, at least we could sit Billings in our forward line and get something out of him.

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1 minute ago, KingDingAling said:

Billings for Tyson in a heartbeat. If we had to add to that deal we could - and should. I would prefer we traded into Gresham, but if Billings is all we could get I'd be keen on that. Jack Billings is going to be a very good football player, he just looks disinterested and unhappy at times (too many times and most times). I suspect he isn't happy at St Kilda, would probably be a far better player in a better side. We should at least ask the question. Tyson is too slow for our side, he will struggle to even break back into it, plus he isn't versatile, at least we could sit Billings in our forward line and get something out of him.

Must admit, I get a little sickened by the talk about trading in and out. 

I don't say don't do it selectively, but every time a name is mentioned, folks start talking about trading out players like a meat market.

If a player like Tyson comes to the coach and wants out, that's another thing. 

However, if the mateship and culture is as good as is being stated, then it is important that we keep as many as our existing group as possible. We have a talented list and we will always need depth. 

Loyalty to the Club and to your mates is an important ingredient of any successful club.

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One of the worst users of the footy in the entire competition. 

Not worth anywhere what the Saints will ask for him. 

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6 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Must admit, I get a little sickened by the talk about trading in and out. 

I don't say don't do it selectively, but every time a name is mentioned, folks start talking about trading out players like a meat market.

If a player like Tyson comes to the coach and wants out, that's another thing. 

However, if the mateship and culture is as good as is being stated, then it is important that we keep as many as our existing group as possible. We have a talented list and we will always need depth. 

Loyalty to the Club and to your mates is an important ingredient of any successful club.

I disagree entirely. Loyalty means absolutely nothing if you aren't in good enough form to remain in the side - ala Tyson. He can be as loyal as he wants but if he isn't making an impact it means jack sh*t. I am sure many of his teammates at AFL level would prefer if Tyson was putting in more 1% efforts and defensive acts so it makes their job easier. But he isn't, and as a result he is at Casey. 

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5 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

I disagree entirely. Loyalty means absolutely nothing if you aren't in good enough form to remain in the side - ala Tyson. He can be as loyal as he wants but if he isn't making an impact it means jack sh*t. I am sure many of his teammates at AFL level would prefer if Tyson was putting in more 1% efforts and defensive acts so it makes their job easier. But he isn't, and as a result he is at Casey. 

we agree to disagree. 

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Pass. His kicking in front of goal would do my head in. I like the dead eye dick thing we’ve got going.

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5 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Was a good kick for goal as a junior, don't quite know what's gone on at St Kilda.

They hired a fox footy boundary rider for a goal kicking coach.

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6 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Billings is a big ‘what might have been’ for us. Roos has said that the Kelly vs Tyson/Pick 9 debate is void as we rated Billings at pick 2 that year.

Billings vs Tyson, Salem and Hunt... I think we’ve come out ahead.

https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/paul-roos-reveals-new-spin-on-2013s-blockbuster-trade-between-melbourne-and-gws-giants/news-story/20f8f893a20fcd0c57cf90e413938e49

I've seen this inaccurately put on this site too many times. Give us Merrett or Crouch in that example and then we're laughing. We traded Pick 20 also.

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4 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

I've seen this inaccurately put on this site too many times. Give us Merrett or Crouch in that example and then we're laughing. We traded Pick 20 also.

Which part is inaccurate?  If we’d kept pick 2, we would have taken Billings.  Is it the inclusion of pick 20??

If so, then it’s Billings and Jack Leslie for Salem, Tyson and Hunt.  

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I seem to rate Tyson more than many here, but he is another inside mid, something we have many of, Billing’s for Tyson is a deal I wouldn’t be against 

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7 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

billings for tyson?

i think the saints have completely misused him, burying him deep in the forward line - no idea if it's for injury reasons or what have you, but he's a much better player than he's shown thus far in 2018

I like it, the kid can play, confidence is shot and change of scenery could be good for him

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12 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Which part is inaccurate?  If we’d kept pick 2, we would have taken Billings.  Is it the inclusion of pick 20??

If so, then it’s Billings and Jack Leslie for Salem, Tyson and Hunt.  

Yes. Our pick 20 became 22 or 23 after bidding so Leslie is not available. We probably would have taken Lewis Taylor if we kept that pick.

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1 hour ago, Watts the matter said:

Yes. Our pick 20 became 22 or 23 after bidding so Leslie is not available. We probably would have taken Lewis Taylor if we kept that pick.

It became pick 22 I think.

We also coincidently had pick 23 as a compensation pick for Colin Sylvia which we traded to Adelaide for Bernie Vince.  Adelaide then used this pick to select Matt Crouch who has gone on to be an All Australian midfielder and win their B&F by the age of 22.  Bernie had been great for us however I think Adelaide would be happy with that deal.

 

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7 hours ago, hemingway said:

Must admit, I get a little sickened by the talk about trading in and out. 

I don't say don't do it selectively, but every time a name is mentioned, folks start talking about trading out players like a meat market.

If a player like Tyson comes to the coach and wants out, that's another thing. 

However, if the mateship and culture is as good as is being stated, then it is important that we keep as many as our existing group as possible. We have a talented list and we will always need depth. 

Loyalty to the Club and to your mates is an important ingredient of any successful club.

All true 'Hem', but neither of them are one of my mates.  So you were right,,, in a professional game where trades are allowed, and talk of a mid season trade period, it is, a Meat -Market mate.

 

Now lets get to buisness.

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Makes Tambling look like Byron Pickett. No chance. 

We like competitors. Not cats. 

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11 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Billings for Tyson in a heartbeat. If we had to add to that deal we could - and should. I would prefer we traded into Gresham, but if Billings is all we could get I'd be keen on that. Jack Billings is going to be a very good football player, he just looks disinterested and unhappy at times (too many times and most times). I suspect he isn't happy at St Kilda, would probably be a far better player in a better side. We should at least ask the question. Tyson is too slow for our side, he will struggle to even break back into it, plus he isn't versatile, at least we could sit Billings in our forward line and get something out of him.

Uninterested. 

Check a dictionary 

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1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Uninterested. 

Check a dictionary 

Random post from you mono, both are adequate in the context.

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