Jack Watts (again)

[faultydet 7,593]

1 minute ago, Stretch Johnson said:

There is actually a nasty trend of players coming back from injury and taking forever to regain form or not regaining it at all.   

Players need time to pick up the pace,  but man our players seem to take longer than most. 

And when our players ceiling is lower, it makes it even more painful.

My blood boils whenever I read the excuses for players being "tired" towards the end of the season. Do the top 8 teams play less games or something?

Have a bad bad feeling about Reiwoldt cutting us up next week. If we lose this one, I am betting the draft/trade threads will start clogging the boards.

[Redlagged 806]

Selection is an issue next week. Weidemann must come in if they really are fair dinkum about form being the criterion. Hannan might entertain a recall  too. He does most of what JW does - and some of it better. In any case, next week is IT - we perform, or else....

[Sideshow Bob 2,156]

24 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

There is actually a nasty trend of players coming back from injury and taking forever to regain form or not regaining it at all.   

Players need time to pick up the pace,  but man our players seem to take longer than most. 

yep. most guys need to come back via the 2s to get up to speed. unfortunately circumstances thus have prevented it as we were playing very much undermanned. but watts hogan jones and a few others have all hand long lay offs and come straight in. personally i dont like it. get some match simulation against an opponent as your final training hit out first, and then move up. use the ressies like its supposed to be... for deveoping kids bodies and game styles, allowing more senior players to regain form, touch and confidence a be a platform for coming back from injury. it feels like a very unfer used resource.... why have blokes coming back in take 2 or games or more to regain touch and basically be a player fown until this happens

[dieter 3,325]

26 minutes ago, faultydet said:

And when our players ceiling is lower, it makes it even more painful.

My blood boils whenever I read the excuses for players being "tired" towards the end of the season. Do the top 8 teams play less games or something?

Have a bad bad feeling about Reiwoldt cutting us up next week. If we lose this one, I am betting the draft/trade threads will start clogging the boards.

Most of the top 8 teams have much much more experienced teams than ours at the moment...That's what's the difference, the men being sorted from the boys.

[rjay 23,884]

32 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

There is actually a nasty trend of players coming back from injury and taking forever to regain form or not regaining it at all.   

Players need time to pick up the pace,  but man our players seem to take longer than most. 

I think the nasty trend has been bringing too many players straight back in or back in with only a limited run at Casey.

...and some like Viney have come back too soon. You can see he doesn't have the power, he can't push off his injured foot and lacks the acceleration to break away or the strength to lay tackles that stick.

Jones is probably the only one who has earned an automatic pass straight back in after a long break, the rest need to earn it.

None have yet...

 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

People who defend Watts don't fully understand why he is criticised.

[Redlagged 806]

First kick today was well into the third quarter. Sorry - he should be dropped.

[dieter 3,325]

57 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

That's an assumption, that people calling for him to be dropped have forgotten his best footy. I daresay his good football won't be forgotten by anyone who say QB. I know I won't forget it. He's a good player. I still want him dropped. Poor form, as regularly as it is for him, for 3 weeks straight... it's more important for the whole team that he finds form elsewhere.

T'would seem to me, the whole team needs to find some form, elsewhere or not.

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Lifted significantly in the second half.

Didn't get 1 kick in the first half..

[jackaub 1,402]

Pea Heart of the first order Playing like he is in a stupor.  I think lifesyle of an afl footballer is more important to Jack than actually playing the game Pizz him off

[At the break of Gawn 3,486]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

People who defend Watts don't fully understand why he is criticised.

I'll leave it up to the club to decide if he needs to be dropped rather than listening to people such as yourself whom regularly pots him week in week out.

The whole forward line stinks at the moment and no one is in form that I can see bar maybe T-Mac. More fingers need to be pointed at Chaplin and Goody who are structuring our forward line.  

But back to Watts, he is definitely in the best 22 and I don't know if risking Weideman (who has struggled at AFL level) is the answer when we are still trying to make finals. I'd give Watts one more week to redeem himself, and if he gives little again, put him back in the VFL and tell him to have a big preseason. 

[spirit of norm smith 12,884]

Casey next week is an option

[dee-eee 231]

Time :  late in second quarter .

Ricciuto :  "  Gee , he didn't even have a crack " .

Hudson : " I know who you are talking about " .

[layzie 28,643]

1 minute ago, dee-eee said:

Time :  late in second quarter .

Ricciuto :  "  Gee , he didn't even have a crack " .

Hudson : " I know who you are talking about " .

Says it all. Can't be ignored 

[ding 5,126]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Says it all. Can't be ignored 

It will be by the usual suspects though.......

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

10 minutes ago, ding said:

It will be by the usual suspects though.......

Yeh.

Ever thought why?

[doc roet 1,199]

Doesn't  need dropping, needs a flogging.

[ding 5,126]

20 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Yeh.

Ever thought why?

I think all the time

[jumbo returns 6,486]

Gather ye all.....pitchforks to Casey

Burn the effigy of the blond one 

Off to the witch trials!

Burn him! Burn him!

[Pottsydee 129]

As a Jack Watts advocate, he is becoming harder and harder to defend. 

Suddenly beginning to wonder if he will ever play a semi consistent 23 games. 

[Demons1858 1,657]

Mentioned last week that he would be in the conversation re changes for GWS. Its now 3 weeks in a row that he has been really poor and he deserves the criticism he gets as he has been the worst performed of our senior players in that time. 

Understand our inside 50's were delivered poorly, today but we still had 55 of them which was slightly more than what GWS had. So no excuses. They might give him one more game on an 8 day break, playing back at the G, and not having any ready made replacements.

[jumbo returns 6,486]

7 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Mentioned last week that he would be in the conversation re changes for GWS. Its now 3 weeks in a row that he has been really poor and he deserves the criticism he gets as he has been the worst performed of our senior players in that time. 

Understand our inside 50's were delivered poorly, today but we still had 55 of them which was slightly more than what GWS had. So no excuses. They might give him one more game on an 8 day break, playing back at the G, and not having any ready made replacements.

I'm glad you acknowledged the fact that i50 was 'delivered poorly' but, it was, in fact, an absolute disgrace 

Edited August 5, 2017 by jumbo returns

[Coq au vin 754]

He has a crack but haemorrhoids and perianal abscesses make the crack no good.

[Pennant St Dee 11,250]

Being poor coming back from a lay off is one thing. He was putting effort and heart in earlier in the season.

Shoud be a non negotiable. I struggle to understand how anyone who was on our list in 08 to 13 doesn't burn wuth desire to never go back to tjose gdays and make a stand when required. Jetta does it but todays Jones and Watts didn't 

Edited August 5, 2017 by Pennant St Dee

[layzie 28,643]

You'd almost settle for one of his 11 possession games where he's at least always trying