POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 16

[jnrmac 18,944]

6 minutes ago, poita said:

I thought were Carlton were the better side for the most part, and they clearly had the best 3-4 individual players on the ground but, and full credit to the playing group, we just had more composure at the key moments and found a way to get the job done. Last year we lost in a similar game by 4 goals, so mentally at least we are greatly improved from last year. With half a dozen top players to come back, we can do some damage if we slip into the top six.

THE GOOD

Tom McDonald - absolute star. Get a long term contract in front of him now.

Petracca - last week he had a couple of moments of brilliance. This week he just willed himself in to the game. 

Frost & Jetta - brilliant at the back, particularly given the lack of support they received from those around them.

Wagner - much improved on last week.

Oliver - the only other midfielder of note.

THE BAD

Kent - complete liability. Weak at the ball, weak at the contest, still can't kick simple goals. Just go away.

Stretch - lacks composure under pressure and has no thirst for the contest. Has regressed badly from last year.

Lewis - less fumbly this week, but constantly puts teammates under pressure by not taking the hit.

Melksham - remains a liability under pressure, although has some class with time & space.

THE UGLY

Drafting Weideman over Curnow. Oh dear.

 

 

Pretty good post but this last point is just embarrassing.

[Jara 1,149]

Just read the Herald Sun's coverage. All about that brave little band of Carlton heroes struggling against insurmountable odds. Nearly lost me breakfast. 

[Biffen 12,323]

2 minutes ago, Jara said:

Just read the Herald Sun's coverage. All about that brave little band of Carlton heroes struggling against insurmountable odds. Nearly lost me breakfast. 

they're battling away like little ,brave ,honest losers.

Brings a tear to me eye.

[chook fowler 18,211]

4 hours ago, Freak said:

why do people continuously call players genius' for displays of common sense? 

oh, mason wood looks at the clock and runs it down before kicking. what a genius!

leigh montagna waiting for opponents to come to him before kicking a goal from the square to waste time..what a genius.

it's common sense! it's like people have never played competitive sport before. 

might i add, whats stopping a player from starting his goal kicking run up at 30 seconds from 50m from the mark and simply walking in at snails pace wiping another significant chunk of time off. 

sometimes i feel like i'm the only genius around!

 

Maybe it's because common sense isn't that common

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,578]

9 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The one that I am surprised has never been tried is when a player is kicking for goal from around 50m - defenders could allow themselves to be used as a stepladder so that a teamate can get a touch on the ball

In a similar vein, you always see players being tackled over the boundary line, taking it out of play for a throw in.  What I'd like to see (if it hasn't been tried already) is players being tackled back into the feild of play to get pinged holding the ball.

[Goffer 256]

Disappointed but not surprised by the umpiring yesterday. Number 22 officiated at the WAFL grand final last year, and I went with my mate who's a Subiaco Lions member. His interpretation of OOB & DOOB changed with every contest and he paid Peel a number of questionable frees at a time when the Lions were surging back into the game 

[chook fowler 18,211]

17 minutes ago, Jara said:

Just read the Herald Sun's coverage. All about that brave little band of Carlton heroes struggling against insurmountable odds. Nearly lost me breakfast. 

That report sounded like it came directly from the Carlscum supporters blogx. Pathetic 

[sisso 2,383]

35 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

Our two Captains...Viney & Jones then Tyson..Watts..Salem..Brayshaw (yes I will include Brayshaw as he is in our best 22 every day of the week) Gawn after 9 weeks out..Hogan after 7 weeks out & Smith after 13 weeks out.....yes the team we beat was in bottom four but in a season where bottom four beats top teams every week ...we won ...don't care what it looked like or how we did it...we won.   This is one week where criticism is not warranted ...I am just so "god dam" proud !!!!

I agree I thought it was one of our best wins of the season, up there with Adelaide and West Coast. We had our whole starting midfield out bar Clarry, Maxy is a long was from his best after so long out, but they got it done like a finals team should.

[Akum 2,660]

50 minutes ago, Biffen said:

they're battling away like little ,brave ,honest losers.

Brings a tear to me eye.

... and a lump to the throat.

[Jara 1,149]

4 minutes ago, Akum said:

... and a lump to the throat.

that was my breakfast coming up again

[Willmoy1947 3,769]

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

It certainly was. I remember thinking during the first half what is wrong with Hunt? Then boom. 

Yep, i always feel better after going out and kicking the dog (figuratively speaking)

[Willmoy1947 3,769]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Maybe it's because common sense isn't that common

There's a bloke at North that kicked a goal from last weeks run up (mark)

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Is there any way to find out umpire statistics per umpire?

 

Anyone?

[DeeWiz 285]

I must admit, I spent most of the game bashing Jordan Lewis, with the rage culminating around him taking forever and getting pinged holding the ball in the middle of the park. But I finally came to sense and reason after he received the ball from ANB at the end of the game to run down the clock and celebrate with the boys. Legend!

Also I'm not sure I've seen it mentioned, but how good was Hunt's (non)goal where he ran about 20m with the ball in like 2.4 seconds and snapped one straight through the middle. That should have been allowed just to have it on the highlights reel!

[Biffen 12,323]

7 minutes ago, DeeWiz said:

I must admit, I spent most of the game bashing Jordan Lewis, with the rage culminating around him taking forever and getting pinged holding the ball in the middle of the park. But I finally came to sense and reason after he received the ball from ANB at the end of the game to run down the clock and celebrate with the boys. Legend!

Also I'm not sure I've seen it mentioned, but how good was Hunt's (non)goal where he ran about 20m with the ball in like 2.4 seconds and snapped one straight through the middle. That should have been allowed just to have it on the highlights reel!

Hunts non goal was superb .

Made four defenders look like statues.

I counted 11-12 very large steps.

Is it 15 steps or 15 metres?

It was an embarrassment that only the umpire could stop him for Carlton.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

12 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

How's about Petracca's composure and vision and execution to hit ANB in the last minute. Kid has matrix time and RoboCop vision. 

I kinda like those nicknames. I always thought Clayton Oliver seems also to find max amount of time. How about Matrix for Clarry and Robocop for Trac.

 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

6 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Is it 15 steps or 15 metres?

Metres.

[Biffen 12,323]

4 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Metres.

His stride is enormous.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

25 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Anyone?

Could only find Umpire game totals, inc final totals.

 

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/umpires/umpires_idx.html

[Jaded No More 57,780]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Selecting Smith and Hogan was our own decision, we didn't have to.

I'd prefer to go in with a full team minus a few stars than to lose two players before half time.

100% correct.

We were fortunate that Carlton had 2 on the bench, one of which is Cripps who is a star. I hope the kid recovers well. Always terrible seeing a young player go down. Luckily it's not the knee! 

 

I was weirdly confident we will win. This was the calmest I have been at a game, even though it was a close contest and I knew there was a lot riding on the result. I kept saying to my dad we will prevail because we are a class above. We played at probably 30% of our best, Carlton were at 100%. We pushed through at the end and won some vital contests and held on for the 4 points. We were so mature in the way we handled this match, missing 5 of our best 10 players, and our entire engine room.

Very proud of Oliver, Trac and ANB for stepping up in the absence of Jones, Viney and Tyson. I thought they were exceptional. ANB was brilliant in the last quarter. He has been good all year, and it's obvious his best role is inside mid. That he does some damage on the scoreboard is even better.

Great work from our defensive unit too. Best game I've seen Wagner play, and as usual Jetta is a freak. If he doesn't make the AA team, it is as rigged as I believe it to be. He is the best small defender in the competition. I would love for someone to prove me otherwise!

Hogan and Gawn will be better for the run. And yes I know Joel Smith was rusty, but gees he has some impressive attributes. I'd love to stick with him. His agility, his speed, his disposal, are all top notch. Love him. 

[Jaded No More 57,780]

1 hour ago, poita said:

 

Oliver - the only other midfielder of note.

Total understatement.

Oliver- as good as any of Carlton's seasoned midfielders. Freak of nature.

 

[Biffen 12,323]

39 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Anyone?

AFLUA.com

[Dees_In_October 3,346]

13 hours ago, Stretchyourself said:

Neville Jetta. That's all

[Ethan Tremblay 28,358]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

It wasn't Malthouse.

Mick Malthouse, Joe Theismann, close enough. 

[jnrmac 18,944]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Anyone?

You used to be able to use the Smart replay to go through them quickly but I understand that is not available anymore.

IN any case its not just the frees , its the blatant ones they don't pay.