Training Thursday 11 May, 2017

[Earl Hood 5,788]

I got down to today's training session a bit late to find the boys running in four groups around the ground, doing 300/400 meter runs at 3/4 pace, then resting, before going again. I noted Trengove was off with McCarthy doing contested ball work drills with another coach.

The running groups then moved to different parts of the ground to do some kicking, hand balling drills across the length of the oval, first with the right foot, then with the left. At this point I noted there was no rehab group doing laps, so none of the injured list players were in attendance and I did not sight Hogan. No Maynard either, still recovering. 

They broke up into smaller groups where they practiced doing a lot of quick contested ball movement to set up a player who would take a snap at goal. There were 2 groups at my end doing this, a group in the middle doing more centre clearance contested drills and in amongst all this there were selective players and line coaches working on technique

Rawlings was doing a lot of body work drills with Frost then Hibberd, not using a ball but just being really physical imitating a big forward trying to out position you. A lot of goal kicking practice, one lot practicing set shots from the boundary using the Stevie J set up, others having shots from 50 on an angle.

Neville was doing a defensive drill with Bugg, Hannan and JKH where the ball was kicked high to them and they went body on body trying to mark or knock the ball to a player's advantage nearby. 

Toward the end Stafford had the ruck division, what's left of it doing centre bounce work, he acting as the opposing ruck with big pad, Cross throwing the ball up inside a marked out centre circle. Keilty, Filopovic and Mitch King taking it in turns jumping against him. I think his main message was for them to take the space under the ball forcing the opposing ruck to have to reach over your shoulders to contact the ball and thus struggle to get an effective tap. King looks to be moving well to me so he may get a shot at some stage before the big boys are back.

Trengove was doing individual running drills with 2 coaches, doing 20 meter sprints with ball in hand. They were filming with their phones then showing him the vision, they may have some app that analyses technique. They were emphasising the need for him to stay low on the push off, almost like a sprinter starting from the blocks, replicating in a match when he picks the ball up he has to push off with a lowered centre of gravity. I watched Trenners in the contested centre drill and he looked OK for speed but then that all done in a confined area.

i watched Gus in a few drills, he just looks like he is going through the motions, not much energy there at all, I haven't been to training much this year but I thought he was more animated in the past. 

the session finished early, it was supposed to go through till 12.00 but when I left about 11.00 there only a few still going, Stretch and Kennedy were doing some contested ball drills I think. 

As I rode off I am sure I went past Saty talking to Neville about something! 

[jackaub 1,402]

Thanks Earl for the insights

I'm hoping there is plenty of energy on dispaly at the first bounce

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

Great report, thanks Earl.

Re Hogan.  I wonder if some of his family is still in Adelaide and he has gone over early.  Or maybe just having a day off.

The 'special' work Trengove was doing may be why Saty thinks he will be selected.  Wouldn't be surprised, Goodwin has said several times that he is very close.  Trengove is pretty good at forward pressure.

Edited May 11, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[Diamond_Jim 11,720]

10 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

i watched Gus in a few drills, he just looks like he is going through the motions, not much energy there at all, I haven't been to training much this year but I thought he was more animated in the past. 

 

Thanks for the report.

Interesting comment re Gus. For a quarter in the Casey v Williamstown match I stood next tot eh coaches box and Gus came on and off the ground a few times. Could not help but notice his face lacked animation by comparison to other players as they traversed the interchange. Could just be his style of play perhaps.

Edited May 11, 2017 by Diamond_Jim

[Salems Lot 2,367]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Thanks for the report.

Interesting comment re Gus. For a quarter in the Casey v Williamstown match I stood next tot eh coaches box and Gus came on and off the ground a few times. Could not help but notice his face lacked animation by comparison to other players as they traversed the interchange. Could just be his style of play perhaps.

Never seemed particulary emotive of face I would have said.

 

[jnrmac 18,940]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Great report, thanks Earl.

Re Hogan.  I wonder if some of his family is still in Adelaide and he has gone over early.  Or maybe just having a day off.

The 'special' work Trengove was doing may be why Saty thinks he will be selected.  Wouldn't be surprised, Goodwin has said several times that he is very close.  Trengove is pretty good at forward pressure.

Maybe there is something in the fact its in Adelaide, his old home town,,,

 

[Whispering_Jack 27,955]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Maybe there is something in the fact its in Adelaide, his old home town,,,

 

Or the fact that his career took a dramatic change of direction after a game against Adelaide during which he was reported and subsequently suspended for what was deemed an illegal tackle on an Adelaide player who was concussed in the aftermath but not badly enough to prevent him from playing 6 days later and getting 3 Brownlow votes for his effort.

It was a turning point for both players IMO.

[jnrmac 18,940]

4 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Or the fact that his career took a dramatic change of direction after a game against Adelaide during which he was reported and subsequently suspended for what was deemed an illegal tackle on an Adelaide player who was concussed in the aftermath but not badly enough to prevent him from playing 6 days later and getting 3 Brownlow votes for his effort.

It was a turning point for both players IMO.

We seem to be the whipping boys for players getting 'concussed' and staging miraculous recoveries the following week. Funny that none of our players that get concussion are right to go the next week.....

[praha 10,270]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Great report, thanks Earl.

Re Hogan.  I wonder if some of his family is still in Adelaide and he has gone over early.  Or maybe just having a day off.

The 'special' work Trengove was doing may be why Saty thinks he will be selected.  Wouldn't be surprised, Goodwin has said several times that he is very close.  Trengove is pretty good at forward pressure.

We're going to see a completely different Trengove. He's had to change his game.

[DemonOX 8,529]

20 minutes ago, praha said:

We're going to see a completely different Trengove. He's had to change his game.

Hope u r right Praha cause I would love to c him cement his spot in the 22. 

[dpositive 1,547]

Thanks for comprehensive report earl.

Interested that you seemed to think Trengove not slow.

was there any opportunity taken to match him up with specific others in sprint test? Or just observation.

Could phone be stop watch over a set distance?

[Earl Hood 5,788]

15 minutes ago, dpositive said:

Thanks for comprehensive report earl.

Interested that you seemed to think Trengove not slow.

was there any opportunity taken to match him up with specific others in sprint test? Or just observation.

Could phone be stop watch over a set distance?

No dp he was not running against anyone else. And I don't think they were timing him because the coaches were not set up at the start and finish lines, they were both at the starting point while Trenners took off running forward to no obvious finish point I could see. I could not work out how they could measure speed so I assumed they were concentrating on technique. And I don't think he is quick just trying to work out if he is fast enough to cut it at AFL level so his other strengths can come to the fore. 

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

14 hours ago, dpositive said:

Thanks for comprehensive report earl.

Interested that you seemed to think Trengove not slow.

was there any opportunity taken to match him up with specific others in sprint test? Or just observation.

Could phone be stop watch over a set distance?

They are not phones, small hand held cameras

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

22 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

I got down to today's training session a bit late to find the boys running in four groups around the ground, doing 300/400 meter runs at 3/4 pace, then resting, before going again. I noted Trengove was off with McCarthy doing contested ball work drills with another coach.

The running groups then moved to different parts of the ground to do some kicking, hand balling drills across the length of the oval, first with the right foot, then with the left. At this point I noted there was no rehab group doing laps, so none of the injured list players were in attendance and I did not sight Hogan. No Maynard either, still recovering. 

They broke up into smaller groups where they practiced doing a lot of quick contested ball movement to set up a player who would take a snap at goal. There were 2 groups at my end doing this, a group in the middle doing more centre clearance contested drills and in amongst all this there were selective players and line coaches working on technique

Rawlings was doing a lot of body work drills with Frost then Hibberd, not using a ball but just being really physical imitating a big forward trying to out position you. A lot of goal kicking practice, one lot practicing set shots from the boundary using the Stevie J set up, others having shots from 50 on an angle.

Neville was doing a defensive drill with Bugg, Hannan and JKH where the ball was kicked high to them and they went body on body trying to mark or knock the ball to a player's advantage nearby. 

Toward the end Stafford had the ruck division, what's left of it doing centre bounce work, he acting as the opposing ruck with big pad, Cross throwing the ball up inside a marked out centre circle. Keilty, Filopovic and Mitch King taking it in turns jumping against him. I think his main message was for them to take the space under the ball forcing the opposing ruck to have to reach over your shoulders to contact the ball and thus struggle to get an effective tap. King looks to be moving well to me so he may get a shot at some stage before the big boys are back.

Trengove was doing individual running drills with 2 coaches, doing 20 meter sprints with ball in hand. They were filming with their phones then showing him the vision, they may have some app that analyses technique. They were emphasising the need for him to stay low on the push off, almost like a sprinter starting from the blocks, replicating in a match when he picks the ball up he has to push off with a lowered centre of gravity. I watched Trenners in the contested centre drill and he looked OK for speed but then that all done in a confined area.

i watched Gus in a few drills, he just looks like he is going through the motions, not much energy there at all, I haven't been to training much this year but I thought he was more animated in the past. 

the session finished early, it was supposed to go through till 12.00 but when I left about 11.00 there only a few still going, Stretch and Kennedy were doing some contested ball drills I think. 

As I rode off I am sure I went past Saty talking to Neville about something! 

Great report, I can't be arsed doing it

Was discussing Eddie Betts and Charlie Cameron with Nev

Gus always looks a bit miserable, has strange walking gait which doesn't help, he was his usual self with me