MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 8

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

4 minutes ago, ding said:

Is it too late to tip The Crows by 10 goals?

This will have to be our line-in-the-sand game if its to be much better than that.

What do you mean late? I'll be pushing it to 20 goals now.,

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I think we'll be without him for a while

That is very possible PSD. 

[Gator 16,891]

38 minutes ago, rjay said:

Was going to click like on this but nothing to like here.

...and yes I always trust your mail 'Pennant', unfortunately on this occasion. 

Looks like being one of those years.

I'm not sure how you remember the content of individual posters.

I take it this bloke gets reliable info ?

[Coq au vin 754]

4 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Not yet Diamond but we're on thin ice.

Maybe, but what will happen if we make finals? This team is so mentally weak it will be bundled out very quickly.

[old dee 22,848]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Shhhh... don't tell OD 

Too late bb. Single malt is going to take a belting tomorrow night.

[old dee 22,848]

2 hours ago, mongrel said:

Ok then. But on the DL who does he think should be our backup tall forward/marking option? Keilty? who else is left????

Forget the tall element mongrel the Weid is not an AFL player at this point. Play anyone else they are like to get a dozen touches.

That will be six more than the Weid.

Play Trengove from the square  he will at the least make a contest.

 

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Just now, old dee said:

Forget the tall element mongrel the Weid is not an AFL player at this point. Play anyone else they are like to get a dozen touches.

That will be six more than the Weid.

Play Trengove from the square  he will at the least make a contest.

 

I'd like to see them play ANB for this reason. Can give you four quarters. Weed would learn a lot, but we're not in learn mode yet.

 

[old dee 22,848]

1 minute ago, Dappa Dan said:

I'd like to see them play ANB for this reason. Can give you four quarters. Weed would learn a lot, but we're not in learn mode yet.

 

I don't agree DD. I don't think you learn much when you are getting beaten 95% of the day.

IMO the only think you learn is that you are not up to the job.

Playing the kid now under these conditions could just ruin him for all time.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Just now, old dee said:

I don't agree DD. I don't think you learn much when you are getting beaten 95% of the day.

IMO the only think you learn is that you are not up to the job.

Playing the kid now under these conditions could just ruin him for all time.

Yeah a lot of people say that, and offer Watts as a good example. Where we differ is that I don't think we're gonna get done like that. We've been in every contest this year, I expect us to show a lot and get outclassed in the last quarter this week. With that in mind, having Weed run around against the best KP defender in the game is something that can bear fruit in the long run.

[John Crow Batty 8,252]

Hogan missing might cost us about 3 goals he might kick. Others might step in to make up the difference. As for general field play he hasn't done enough to make him a game breaker this season. I dont think we will miss him as much as some think. I hope the forward delivery gets smarter and the forwards get on their bike. Plonking the ball on top of Weed's head in the goal square will still yield mediocre results just like with Hogan sitting there. Watts IMO could be more dangerous without Hogan there.

Edited May 12, 2017 by america de cali

[dino rover 618]

With just a ruckman I would be confident without we still are a chance which speaks to how we have progressed - at dland if not in reality

[Dante 2,562]

12 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Hogan missing might cost us about 3 goals he might kick. Others might step in to make up the difference. As for general field play he hasn't done enough to make him a game breaker this season. I dont think we will miss him as much as some think. I hope the forward delivery gets smarter and the forwards get on their bike. Plonking the ball on top of Weed's head in the goal square will still yield mediocre results just like with Hogan sitting there. Watts IMO could be more dangerous without Hogan there.

I tend to agree with you, Hogan is probably not in a great place and if he is sick then that just compounds the problem. 

We can win this game without Hogan and if Weed plays, then he has put in his best performance, no excuses, he's an AFL player and has to play accordingly.

 

[rjay 23,888]

40 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I'm not sure how you remember the content of individual posters.

I take it this bloke gets reliable info ?

I don't take a lot of posters seriously but 'Pennant' is well connected in Perth and his mail is good.

Edited May 12, 2017 by rjay

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Weideman is in according to Patrick Keane from the AFL.

[Gorgoroth 12,308]

33 minutes ago, old dee said:

Too late bb. Single malt is going to take a belting tomorrow night.

Laphroaig is on the cards. 

[Young Blood 1,985]

34 minutes ago, old dee said:

Forget the tall element mongrel the Weid is not an AFL player at this point. Play anyone else they are like to get a dozen touches.

That will be six more than the Weid.

Play Trengove from the square  he will at the least make a contest.

 

I don't know if Goodwins going to forget the tall element. I don't think its touches you really worry about with a marking option. Weed just needs to create a contest for our smalls in this game: Garlett, Hannan, Petracca etc.

And he we need another tall besides Watts and occasionally Pederson to compete with Talia and Harigan.

That being said I still think Goodwin might take this opportunty (Hogan out) to take some risks with experimenting with Tmac or Frost playing forward or at least loose across HF as Tmac did against St Kilda.

 

Edited May 12, 2017 by mongrel

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33 minutes ago, old dee said:

Forget the tall element mongrel the Weid is not an AFL player at this point. Play anyone else they are like to get a dozen touches.

That will be six more than the Weid.

Play Trengove from the square  he will at the least make a contest.

 

It's beginning to look like Trengove was only signed to make the club look magnanimous and to not make the culture even worse by dumping a much- loved son. He doesn't appear likely to be picked regardless of his good service at VfL level.

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4 minutes ago, Diamond said:

It's beginning to look like Trengove was only signed to make the club look magnanimous and to not make the culture even worse by dumping a much- loved son. He doesn't appear likely to be picked regardless of his good service at VfL level.

Yea, that's probably it. 

[Gawn's Beard 334]

I think Weiderman will play for Hogan.  If you remember back to the Richmond game (and to some extent the Essendon game) Rance absolutely killed us when we were a KPF short.  He was 3rd man up and flew almost uncontested.  Weiderman can (hopefully at the very least) take a key defender and make them accountable. 

If we need the dump kick into 50, we need someone to try and halve contests and let our smaller forwards do their work.

It will all come down to our ball movement and outside run. 

[Gator 16,891]

38 minutes ago, rjay said:

I don't take a lot of posters seriously but 'Pennant' is well connected in Perth and his mail is good.

Thanks. 

Although if true I'm not sure it should be divulged.  He should be afforded total privacy, not partial privacy.

The club said illness for a reason and if anything is shared more publicly I know I'd happily wait for such information as the club sees fit.   Or otherwise. 

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

33 minutes ago, Diamond said:

It's beginning to look like Trengove was only signed to make the club look magnanimous and to not make the culture even worse by dumping a much- loved son. He doesn't appear likely to be picked regardless of his good service at VfL level.

I dunno about that. If they genuinely saw it that way, wouldn't they have traded him to Tigers when they asked?

[John Crow Batty 8,252]

6 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

I dunno about that. If they genuinely saw it that way, wouldn't they have traded him to Tigers when they asked?

The deal fell through because Trengove foot broke down again. Richmond declined.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Just now, america de cali said:

The deal fell through because Trengove foot broke down again. Richmond declined.

Ah. Well [censored].

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

When we played StKilda round 1, a turning point was when we stopped trying to take possession of the ball and moved it forward at all costs by any means eg push, tap, kick off the ground.  It was very successful for us and a good way to get the ball out of the pack. Since then we have predominantly relied on handballs which results in overusing the ball.

Hawks and Bulldogs are masters at moving the ball without taking possession - after all without possession you can't be tackled. 

Circular handball will play into the Crows' hands so I would like to see us move the ball without taking possession more often as it works to our advantage being the shorter side and allows our speedier players to go to work.

 

Edited May 12, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

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3 hours ago, hardtack said:

Didn't Weids do that (kicked 2, was it?) in our win against Hawthorn last year? And if superstition is to play a part, let's not forget that Hogan was absent for both of our biggest wins against all odds... Geelong at Skilled and then Hawthorn at the MCG.  Could this be the trifecta?

Gawn was playing both those games. No chance we'll even have a sniff.