AFL Evolution Game

[praha 10,267]

Having got insight into the local development industry, I can assure you that this game won't be very good.

1. Developers generally have to fork over large sums to the AFL for licensing. This leaves little to develop a reasonably good game engine.

2. The sport of aussie rules has so many variables, that without a good physics engine, you just end up with a crappy product.

3. The developer, Wicked Witch, has ignore ALL media inquiries. The AFL is handling it all, which is VERY strange. This is generally the role of the game's publisher. Having the company you bought the license from market the game for you is very uncommon. It's basically like buying a product from someone, but then being forced to do with that product whatever the person you bought it from tells you to do.

4. Of the few media who have been given access, there are rumours that the AFL has told them not to give scathing reviews, or to be "gentle". 

5. One of the online media outlets given access to the game is owned by a media company that broadcasts AFL. I assume this is either Channel 7, or a radio station. So essentially, the AFL is keeping all media "coverage" entirely internal so as to avoid negative coverage.

6. There's been no pre-release previews of the title, which is extremely rare. Generally, games either go through a pre-release "beta" process in which the game is tested by the public or select people from the public, or media goes hands-on to see the game's progress. 

I can say with 100% certainty without even having seen the game that it will be garbage, and that they've spent all of their money on branding and motion capture of player faces, but haven't done much else good with it.

Edited May 2, 2017 by praha

[AzzKikA 2,369]

12 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I'm not excited because they all suck. But I'll definitely waste my money on it. 

Ditto.

[AzzKikA 2,369]

23 minutes ago, praha said:

Having got insight into the local development industry, I can assure you that this game won't be very good.

1. Developers generally have to fork over large sums to the AFL for licensing. This leaves little to develop a reasonably good game engine.

2. The sport of aussie rules has so many variables, that without a good physics engine, you just end up with a crappy product.

3. The developer, Wicked Witch, has ignore ALL media inquiries. The AFL is handling it all, which is VERY strange. This is generally the role of the game's publisher. Having the company you bought the license from market the game for you is very uncommon. It's basically like buying a product from someone, but then being forced to do with that product whatever the person you bought it from tells you to do.

4. Of the few media who have been given access, there are rumours that the AFL has told them not to give scathing reviews, or to be "gentle". 

5. One of the online media outlets given access to the game is owned by a media company that broadcasts AFL. I assume this is either Channel 7, or a radio station. So essentially, the AFL is keeping all media "coverage" entirely internal so as to avoid negative coverage.

6. There's been no pre-release previews of the title, which is extremely rare. Generally, games either go through a pre-release "beta" process in which the game is tested by the public or select people from the public, or media goes hands-on to see the game's progress. 

I can say with 100% certainty without even having seen the game that it will be garbage, and that they've spent all of their money on branding and motion capture of player faces, but haven't done much else good with it.

Pretty much what I thought would happen, copy & paste gameplay from the last train wreck and improve the graphics, even they look horrendous.  If there is a decent career mode I can put up with bad controls & clippy graphics, but I doubt that would even exist.

[DemonWheels 961]

Pretty sure the developer Wicked Witch created two recent AFL games that I've played a fair bit on my iPhone and iPad – 'AFL Gold' and 'AFL Live 2'. Lots of good fun and the graphics weren't bad for the size I was viewing. In terms of the ability to play a fluid game of AFL it did the job. Obvious improvements could be made and they definitely have their limitations but my biggest issue was the fact that you had your fingers all over the screen and that made playing an intricate/complex game quite difficult. With the game being available on Playstation and other platforms this particular aspect will be remedied so I'm really keen to experience it – nothing better than playing as the Dees!

I imagine this edition is the next 'evolution' of these versions so I can only hope they've built upon the experience and made it bigger and better.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

3 minutes ago, DemonWheels said:

Pretty sure the developer Wicked Witch created two recent AFL games that I've played a fair bit on my iPhone and iPad – 'AFL Gold' and 'AFL Live 2'. Lots of good fun and the graphics weren't bad for the size I was viewing.

The hardest thing with AFL games is getting a good angle and perspective, with such a big ground getting that balance between seeing the play and seeing what is ahead is tough.

[DemonWheels 961]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The hardest thing with AFL games is getting a good angle and perspective, with such a big ground getting that balance between seeing the play and seeing what is ahead is tough.

Not to mention the multiple actions a player can take both with and without the ball, i.e. pick it up / kick it off the ground / shepherd / tackle the opposition etc etc 

[Demonland 64,416]

I hope they've nailed the Deliberate Out of Bounds interpretation.

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

AFL 98 (I think it was) was fun. Jeff Farmer was able to run down anyone, and I could win every game by 200+ points

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,381]

I still prefer the life-size game with real players in red and blue jumpers played at the MCG on a Friday night or over the weekend.

[3Dee 1,153]

14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Those were the days, Aussie Rules Footy on NES, Wagon Wheels and Cheezels.

 

The classic VFL matchup Darwin v Hobart

[Demonland 64,416]

27 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I still prefer the life-size game with real players in red and blue jumpers played at the MCG on a Friday night or over the weekend.

Unfortunately we have no control over that and it's hard to rage quit a real game.

 

[Demonland 64,416]

14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Those were the days, Aussie Rules Footy on NES, Wagon Wheels and Cheezels.

 

 

[3Dee 1,153]

praha nails it but the one thing going for it is online play (anyone know if peer to peer connection?). The original NES was unrelenting but a great co-op.

Did anyone see the NMFC Evolution gameplay where a player basically ran end to end ? yikes..

 

[Diamond_Jim 11,679]

E Games have now been added to the Asian games as a sport

Now we need to get AFL as a sub category of those E games and we are well on our way to global domination

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,381]

8 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

E Games have now been added to the Asian games as a sport

Now we need to get AFL as a sub category of those E games and we are well on our way to global domination

Coincidentally, on the back page of today's Age newspaper...

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-to-enter-12-billion-esports-industry-wants-etihad-stadium-tournament-20170501-gvwixm.html

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Are there any good AFL games for mobile? I've played AFL Live 2 which DemonWheels mentioned, not sure I'm willing to for out fork AFL Evolution yet (plus I need a new console).

 

Edited May 3, 2017 by Clint Bizkit

[What 18,810]

Surprisingly the gameplay looks good.  Players actually have a turning circle unlike every other AFL ever made where you could run in completely unnatural straight lines without needing to turn or change direction. It made tackling a joke.

[CarnTheDees 52]

3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Are there any good AFL games for mobile? I've played AFL Live 2 which DemonWheels mentioned, not sure I'm willing to for out fork AFL Evolution yet (plus I need a new console).

 

There's a new one called "Kicking Behinds" on the App Store, give it a look it's good fun.

[Engorged Onion 9,239]

19 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

 

I think you were proven wrong in 1991.

Classic - OUT OF BOUNDS...ON THE FULL... in the most tinnie robotic voice you could find. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Surprisingly the gameplay looks good.  Players actually have a turning circle unlike every other AFL ever made where you could run in completely unnatural straight lines without needing to turn or change direction. It made tackling a joke.

I think the horrible graphics have put me off, but if the game play is good then I'll be stoked.

[Deestroy All 14,261]

Graphics don't worry me after the first 5 minutes on any game. I'll get over that. 

The gameplay looks playable from what I've seen, the goal kicking looks way too easy though. Should've brought back the NES goal kicking with the little sticks going ballistic. 

 

Anyone know if it'll be on the PSN store? Or will I have to venture into the real world to waste my money?

[Demonland 64,416]

1 hour ago, Deestroy All said:

Graphics don't worry me after the first 5 minutes on any game. I'll get over that. 

The gameplay looks playable from what I've seen, the goal kicking looks way too easy though. Should've brought back the NES goal kicking with the little sticks going ballistic. 

 

Anyone know if it'll be on the PSN store? Or will I have to venture into the real world to waste my money?

i'm not certain it will be on the PSN store as I was poking around on the weekend looking to pre-order and it was not listed. Doubt you will find it there. May have to venture into the sun light.

[Deestroy All 14,261]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

May have to venture into the sun light.

 

I checked their Facebook page, apparently it's on the Xbox live store, and will be up on PSN store upon release. Hope that's the case, I'll report back at 00:01 tomorrow night.

[Wizza 170]

Aussie Rules Football on the original Nintendo, was and still is the greatest footy game ever made. 

This new game will be terrible.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,022]

11 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Geez that would've been fun back in the day. I can't help but think this video should've been Western Bulldogs vs Western Bulldogs though. All those tackles with the ball mysteriously popping loose and no frees paid.