Are Weed, Pedo, Smith & current VFL Prospects enough in Fwd Line?

[deelete my account 1,194]

Early to discuss this I know, but if Weed is 2 years away from holding down a spot, Pedo near retirement and the rest as Potentials, Does the club need to look at an established 3rd tall for 2018? Do we need to look at the Patton/Wright/Lynch trend of a 200cm athletic forward and move Watts to half forward and Hogan at Ff or Chf with a new recruit? Or does the club need to recruit a specialist sharp shooting 3rd tall and persist with Hogan/Watts until Weid is ready?

I know they dont grow on trees but injuries, suspensions and personal events have really left the forward line unsettled and im curious as to whether you see the current injury free forward line as the one going forward ?

 

Or too early to tell/ bigger priorities elsewhere ?

 

Edited April 29, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[WERRIDEE 5,209]

Is there any tall forward\ruckman in this year's draft?

Sam Reid for a 2nd round draft pick.

I still think when fit our 2 Gawn and Spencer can play in the same team.

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2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Is there any tall forward\ruckman in this year's draft?

Sam Reid for a 2nd round draft pick.

I still think when fit our 2 Gawn and Spencer can play in the same team.

With Tippet so prone to injury, i doubt theyd want to let him go unless we offered a big contract.

Interestingly the forum consensus was that we needed a fwd/rucklast year and Goodwin may have acknowledged it, but we didnt try and recruit one?

 

Hindsight is 20/20, but even then, so many people had doubts on Spencer lasy year despite his good form v Freo

[Scipio 5,868]

15 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Early to discuss this I know, but if Weed is 2 years away from holding down a spot, Pedo near retirement and the rest as Potentials, Does the club need to look at an established 3rd tall for 2018? Do we need to look at the Patton/Wright/Lynch trend of a 200cm athletic forward and move Watts to half forward and Hogan at Ff or Chf with a new recruit? Or does the club need to recruit a specialist sharp shooting 3rd tall and persist with Hogan/Watts until Weid is ready?

I know they dont grow on trees but injuries, suspensions and personal events have really left the forward line unsettled and im curious as to whether you see the current injury free forward line as the one going forward ?

 

Or too early to tell/ bigger priorities elsewhere ?

 

If you can get an athletic forward at that height, you snap them up. The problem is that they don't come along too often.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

Weed is looking more lucas cook than anything else at this stage. compare him to hipwood who is even skinnier than weed. Hipwood competes and contests the ball. Weed is a bit of a wallflower. Reckon he might be a bust. im happyto let him fill out but even the skinny ones display attributes of competitiveness even though they lose any contest they are in. weed just doesnt compete.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,209]

2 minutes ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

Weed is looking more lucas cook than anything else at this stage. compare him to hipwood who is even skinnier than weed. Hipwood competes and contests the ball. Weed is a bit of a wallflower. Reckon he might be a bust. im happyto let him fill out but even the skinny ones display attributes of competitiveness even though they lose any contest they are in. weed just doesnt compete.

 

Give me a break

[Roost It 1,434]

28 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Is there any tall forward\ruckman in this year's draft?

Sam Reid for a 2nd round draft pick.

I still think when fit our 2 Gawn and Spencer can play in the same team.

Spencer is not AFL standard

[Bitter but optimistic 21,235]

3 minutes ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

Weed is looking more lucas cook than anything else at this stage. compare him to hipwood who is even skinnier than weed. Hipwood competes and contests the ball. Weed is a bit of a wallflower. Reckon he might be a bust. im happyto let him fill out but even the skinny ones display attributes of competitiveness even though they lose any contest they are in. weed just doesnt compete.

 

I wouldn't write him off yet Fitz.

There is a lot physical and mental maturing to come.

Another year before any reasonable Judgement can be made.

[WERRIDEE 5,209]

Just now, Roost It said:

Spencer is not AFL standard

His form was good this year.

[Roost It 1,434]

7 minutes ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

Weed is looking more lucas cook than anything else at this stage. compare him to hipwood who is even skinnier than weed. Hipwood competes and contests the ball. Weed is a bit of a wallflower. Reckon he might be a bust. im happyto let him fill out but even the skinny ones display attributes of competitiveness even though they lose any contest they are in. weed just doesnt compete.

 

Dribble

[Roost It 1,434]

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

His form was good this year.

He has played 1.5 games of AFL football in 2 years and has been completely flogged. Don't get me wrong it's a great effort to just get where he is but we need King to mature over the next 3 years

Weideman is not a bust, 

[deeko 937]

Bring back Juice!!

But in all seriousness, you can't write off the Weed in his second season. I'm comparing him to Darcy Moore when watching himstruggle as the key forward.

Both these boys are stil too young and under developed to take on the number one defender. They are made to look silly when trying to also.

Im sure there will be nothing wrong with the Weed long term but I'd much rather him lining up next to Hogan or worst case Pedo than being the key man solely

[piddz 98]

8 minutes ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

Weed is looking more lucas cook than anything else at this stage. compare him to hipwood who is even skinnier than weed. Hipwood competes and contests the ball. Weed is a bit of a wallflower. Reckon he might be a bust. im happyto let him fill out but even the skinny ones display attributes of competitiveness even though they lose any contest they are in. weed just doesnt compete.

 

He is 19 years old...... he has played 7 AFL games...... i'm not even going to get into the fact he's a key forward and pushing 200cm which is universally understood as IT TAKES TIME.

[Roost It 1,434]

In a forward line with Hogan and Watts, Weideman would be fine right now

[old dee 22,848]

1 minute ago, Roost It said:

In a forward line with Hogan and Watts, Weideman would be fine right now

Two thirds correct Roost it.

[deebug 1,754]

His still learning give the kid a break. 

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

What happened to Huelett? 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,235]

2 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

What happened to Huelett? 

Isn't he injured ?

[old dee 22,848]

1 minute ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Isn't he injured ?

Played today Bbo but by all accounts pushing into the ordinary class. However early days for him think 2018.

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23 minutes ago, piddz said:

He is 19 years old...... he has played 7 AFL games...... i'm not even going to get into the fact he's a key forward and pushing 200cm which is universally understood as IT TAKES TIME.

Well yeah, but if the window is open for a big tilt at the finals this year and next, wouldnt we need a ready to go established AFL standard 3rd tall for this period? Hogan/Watts/Weid isnt going to be premiership standard for awhile i wouldve thought. Is DL actually patient enough to wait on Weidemann?

Edited April 29, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[Fat Tony 4,401]

Weideman will be a good player but it will take a bit of time. Josh Kennedy (WCE) took four years to have an impact at AFL level. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-west-coast-eagles--joshua-kennedy Jack Riewwoldt took three years. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-richmond-tigers--jack-riewoldt

I would look at trading for a player like Gunstan, Mason Wood or Crameri who could ultimately work with a forward line including Hogan, Watts and a mature Weideman.

[deelete my account 1,194]

Furthermore , if Weid or others are a bust after 2-3 years, won't that mean there is a gaping hole during and after that period with massive pressure on a 29 yo Jack Watts and Hogan to have carried the spine up to that point? Definetly need to bring in a mature player in the meantime to share the load and not put the future of Hogan And Watts in the hands of potentials.

Edited April 29, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[Adzman 2,085]

26 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

What happened to Huelett? 

I agree, At 193cm he is only 2cm shorter than Weed and every bit as likely to crack our forwardline in the future.

Huelett and Weed need time. It is easy to salivate at the plastic clubs' talls,but when you are picking bigs in the first round every year you are going to have a stacked forwardline. 

 

[rjay 23,888]

17 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Weideman will be a good player but it will take a bit of time. Josh Kennedy (WCE) took four years to have an impact at AFL level. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-west-coast-eagles--joshua-kennedy Jack Riewwoldt took three years. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-richmond-tigers--jack-riewoldt

I would look at trading for a player like Gunstan, Mason Wood or Crameri who could ultimately work with a forward line including Hogan, Watts and a mature Weideman.

Crameri is a bust, to hot and cold...

...and we have Petracca as that mid size forward.

We really need a 200cm forward who can go into the ruck...

...as I've said in the list management thread, we don't have enough height around the ground.

[WERRIDEE 5,209]

52 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

What happened to Huelett? 

He's playing down back in the VFL isn't he?