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1 minute ago, Dee-licious said:

Finey ans Lucas on SEN talking about how Pyke (Crows) needs to be more creative like Goodwin 

No he doesn't :unsure::rolleyes:

They can stay just as they are ;)

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10 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

Early days...but if you had to pick coach of the year right at this point he'd have to be it wouldnt he? 

He'd be in the top 3. Him, Hardwick and Bolton would be the 3. We all know how Goody is going, Hardwick has gone some way in turning around the Tiger ship (they are 7-5, maybe 8-5 after today), and Bolton is doing wonders at the Blues this year.

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12 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

He'd be in the top 3. Him, Hardwick and Bolton would be the 3. We all know how Goody is going, Hardwick has gone some way in turning around the Tiger ship (they are 7-5, maybe 8-5 after today), and Bolton is doing wonders at the Blues this year.

I just can't rate Hardwick. 

The only top 8 teams they have beaten are WCE and an undermanned and injured Demons. 

But they have lost to other top 8 teams: Adel, WB, GWS, Freo (when they were in the 8), and an in inform Syd.  That is their 5 losses right there - downhill skiers!!

And lack of coaching has given them 3 losses in the dying seconds when their players didn't have a clue on how to win/defend.  Nope, not a good coaching record for mine.

 

 

Shock of shocks - 'Purple' Barrett just said on Ch 9 that Goodwin would have to be coach of the year so far.  Must have choked him to say that :cool:

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7 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I just can't rate Hardwick. 

The only top 8 teams they have beaten are WCE and an undermanned and injured Demons. 

But they have lost to other top 8 teams: Adel, WB, GWS, Freo (when they were in the 8), and an in inform Syd.  That is their 5 losses right there - downhill skiers!!

And lack of coaching has given them 3 losses in the dying seconds when their players didn't have a clue on how to win/defend.  Nope, not a good coaching record for mine.

 

 

Shock of shocks - 'Purple' Barrett just said on Ch 9 that Goodwin would have to be coach of the year so far.  Must have choked him to say that :cool:

Barrett is very much on the demon train now. I think most of the time he's pretty consistent 

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17 hours ago, rpfc said:

Yeah, but is he flexible?

Can he turn a CHB into a goalkicking matchwinner on a cold Saturday night in Perth?

We.

Will.

See.

rpfc - do you have your answer yet??  :huh:

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  • 5 weeks later...

The coach is going to be interviewed 'On The Couch' next Monday.

Already looking forward to it.

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On 6/25/2017 at 10:58 AM, Demon Disciple said:

He'd be in the top 3. Him, Hardwick and Bolton would be the 3. We all know how Goody is going, Hardwick has gone some way in turning around the Tiger ship (they are 7-5, maybe 8-5 after today), and Bolton is doing wonders at the Blues this year.

Bolt on.... no  Hard wick..... no   Good Win, yes sounds like a winner.

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On 5/15/2017 at 10:13 PM, Dappa Dan said:

None of my business, but good post.

Playing devil's advocate just for a second, I think it's worth pointing out that a lot of what we saw on the weekend was great because it worked. ANB and Hannan in (which noone saw coming) for round 1 was a great move. Took away Saints rebound. Round 8, made some fascinating and daring choices both at selection and on field. And you couldn't conceive of better results than what we got.... But... He made similar choices that didn't pan out earlier in the year. He copped it for JKH. Actually selecting him at all seemed left-field. And let's call a spade a spade. It didn't work.

I think so far he's had about as much good luck with these selections as he's had bad. What's great, as you say, is that he's making them. Putting himself on the line. That's great.

My area of concern is now NOT match day. In the breaks between quarters he's shown he can move the magnets around. Teams and opposition coaches are going to have a tough time countering him now, let alone the 22 he fields.

The thing I'm keen to see unfold is how he teaches players. Roos was amazing with teaching kids. He made a good defense out of no name players. He did it so well that now Collingwood's best defender by a mile is a guy we didn't really feel like paying to keep. Goodie has come in, and it's clear to many he's focussed on attack, run, handball, and defensive forwards. I think he's largely left the defense as it was under Roosy. After all, you would, wouldn't you.

I want to see what happens in 3 years when Roos' impact is lessened or completely gone. He might have even worked through a handful of defensive coordinators like the NFL do. Maybe he overcompensates by trading our next two first rounders for Lever, or something like that. In any case, until that happens, we won't know whether this gem we have will offer the sustained good stuff that a Clarko does. I'm pumped. MFC has never been more intriguing to watch.

We have McCartney who is exceptional at this.

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On 5/16/2017 at 6:08 AM, fndee said:

It would be interesting to know what Stuey Dew thinks of the situation given he was apparently offered the reigns but knocked it back. He could have been the senior coach at the moment of a finals bound team rather than still being an assistant 

 

On 5/16/2017 at 6:15 AM, Abe said:

He wasn't able to move to Melbourne for family reasons but was interested enough to catch up with roosy a couple of times 

Not sure where you are getting this from?

Dew was offered the job but the Swans wouldn't release him from his contract to become an assistant coach to Roos. They would have had been offered a senior coaching role.

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On 5/16/2017 at 9:21 AM, Luther said:

He's doing a great job so far, but I'd still say the title of leagues best coach remains with the guy who has won 4 flags.

Goody is making great head way though and hopefully he can get to that level one day!

Clarkson has never won coach of the year. Travesty.

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3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

 

Not sure where you are getting this from?

Dew was offered the job but the Swans wouldn't release him from his contract to become an assistant coach to Roos. They would have had been offered a senior coaching role.

Its not the way I remember it. I thought in the end it was Dews call and "family reasons" was essentially a "no" dressed up to not dis us or Roos too badly. I think he may well be regretting a missed oppurtunity...but we should be counting our lucky stars with Goodwin. 

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Tis as JnrMac relays.

Swans seriously has nose out of joint. Refused to release Dew... despite a gentleman's agreement across clubs to release assistants to a senior role. 

Probably why Roos likes the Dees a bit more than Sydney im guessing. :unsure:

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2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

 

Not sure where you are getting this from?

Dew was offered the job but the Swans wouldn't release him from his contract to become an assistant coach to Roos. They would have had been offered a senior coaching role.

Paul Roos said this was the case himself in an interview, when they were discussing dew for another vic role and roosy said family circumstances prevented him joining the dees so unless they had changed he wouldn't be likely 

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5 hours ago, jnrmac said:

We have McCartney who is exceptional at this.

Every time I see him with an arm around a kid player whispering, I forget he's there... been huge.

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Yes Macca is the unsung hero of the revival. Roos and Goodwin have been huge, but I'd assume Macca has been equal to these guys in terms of player development, instilling confidence and contested ball craft.

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22 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

Every time I see him with an arm around a kid player whispering, I forget he's there... been huge.

I watched Brendan last week and for the first time probably actually realised what he actually does on the boundary. I mean I have seen him talk to players during the breaks but at one stage while the game was going on he was actually directing and speaking to Dom Tyson about what he should be doing.  he really is a teacher. 

 

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On 7/25/2017 at 2:44 PM, Wells 11 said:

Its not the way I remember it. I thought in the end it was Dews call and "family reasons" was essentially a "no" dressed up to not dis us or Roos too badly. I think he may well be regretting a missed oppurtunity...but we should be counting our lucky stars with Goodwin. 

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Sydney have blocked Paul Roos' bid to anoint his former Swans assistant Stuart Dew as his coach-in-waiting at Melbourne, refusing to release Dew from his contract.

Roos' latest attempt to plunder his old club has prompted the intervention of Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland, who communicated the club's determination to hold on to Dew to Melbourne counterpart Peter Jackson.

The unusual nature of Melbourne's coaching structure means a senior assistant appointed under Roos will be guaranteed the senior coaching position as early as 2016 or 2017 at the latest.

Roos and Jackson argued that Dew should remain subject to the AFL coaching environment's ''gentlemen's agreement'' which allows assistant coaches to be released from their contracts for a senior role. Leon Cameron was released from Hawthorn on that basis at the end of last season even though he was not immediately becoming a senior coach but had been promised the job in writing for next year.

The Swans begged to differ where Dew was concerned, leaving Hawthorn assistant Adam Simpson, departing Swans assistant Leigh Tudor and West Coast assistant Scott Burns firmly in the frame to work under Roos before almost certainly replacing him.

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32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Brisbane Times

.........Sydney have blocked Paul Roos' bid to anoint his former Swans assistant Stuart Dew as his coach-in-waiting at Melbourne, refusing to release Dew from his contract..........

Good get.

It would be interesting to know Dew’s thoughts on this now considering he is still the midfield coach at the Swans whereas the bloke, in what would have been his job, is about to coach a finals side. 

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1 minute ago, Wrecker45 said:

If anyone said to me at the beginning of the year we were a top 4 chance at the end of July, I would have signed Goodwin for another 5 years. 

I would have signed their admission papers for the rubber room.

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I made a pretty decent grog bet with a Collingwood supporter over that one. They thought I was mad and made it in a heart beat. I'm thinking the odds are better than 50/50 in my favour right now

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