Williamstown v Casey Demons

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Just now, ProDee said:

He quoted me.

I know, but it was directed at me.

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Sounds like a disappointing outing for Casey. Glad Hibberd got through unscathed and good to see Trengove playing well.

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13 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I literally have no effing idea what you're talking about or how you reached that conclusion.  

I do rate Trengove and always have.

Give yourself an uppercut.

 

As for Pedersen ?  He's a dud.  Poor decisions, turned it over, and only got the ball while he was on ball.  I much prefer Weideman as a contesting forward.

Yeah, wasn't directed at you. I've inadvertently quoted one of your replies! 

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51 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Pedersen is a VFL player.  Can't believe people get excited by someone who is OK at this level.  He's not a key position AFL forward. 

I'm happy for Pedo to come back in next week.

Even if he has a 7 possssion 2 mark stinker, it will still be a better contribution than Weideman.

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59 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Pedersen is a VFL player.  Can't believe people get excited by someone who is OK at this level.  He's not a key position AFL forward.

Hibberd looking like he's close to being ready.

Trengove makes good decisions.

Brayshaw better than VFL footy, but happy for him to stay there as long as required.

Have seen Pedersen do much better than what we're getting at the moment 

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Well that was some of the worst umpiring you'll see..

Brayshaw was meh for me.. Was hoping for him to really stand put and grab the game by the struff of the neck but didn't. Took a strong mark in the goalsquare though.

Trengove's class at times stood out. looks like he was playing majority as a half back flanker which is something we might see in the AFL soon. has time and composer at this level.

Pedersen battled on in the ruck and did well. I liked his game and right now based on that form he should be ahead of Weideman. But Hogan coming in do they go with Pedo aswell?

Kennedy was also quite good and looked classy at times. Id much rather him in the side then ANB who just panics at all cost when has ball in hand.  Would be close for selection you'd think.

Hibberd started slow as expected  but got better and better as the game went on. Id say bring him in. Some of his dtive and long kicking is exactly what we are lacking in the seniors. 25 disposals is a great return.

Oscar was another who was meh for me. Got rag dolled in a marking contest by none other thrn Ayce Cordy.. Needs time at VFL level.

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Weideman was at the game with a massive bandage on his thigh and was limping. Doubt that he'll play anywhere next week. Pederson a lock.

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11 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I'm happy for Pedo to come back in next week.

Even if he has a 7 possssion 2 mark stinker, it will still be a better contribution than Weideman.

 

9 minutes ago, loges said:

Have seen Pedersen do much better than what we're getting at the moment 

I've answered these astute insights in the game changes thread.

But for the sake of repetition, Weideman averaged 10.5 disposals, 3.5 marks, and 1.5 goals in the two games Hogan played.  Hogan is back.

I'd much rather Weideman than the very average Pedersen, who has shown in his 61 AFL games that he's more a VFL player.

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As for Pedersen ?  He's a dud.  Poor decisions, turned it over, and only got the ball while he was on ball.  I much prefer Weideman as a contesting forward.

He is stronger than Weeds at the moment and so comes in automatically a no brainer!

Trengove's class at times stood out. looks like he was playing majority as a half back flanker which is something we might see in the AFL soon. has time and composer at this level.

"At this level' which is a zillion miles from the frenetic pace of AFL Too slow and finished! IMO

Oscar was another who was meh for me. Got rag dolled in a marking contest by none other thrn Ayce Cordy.. Needs time at VFL level

That's coz he is no good and never will be! Ragdolled by Ayce Cordy?? Might as well have been Cale Morton! OR Paul Callery!

PF 

Edited April 17, 2017 by picket fence

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8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Pedersen battled on in the ruck and did well. I liked his game and right now based on that form he should be ahead of Weideman. But Hogan coming in do they go with Pedo aswell?

 

well dazzle, we need a chf and a ff.      jack watts is neither.   so it's hogan and pedo for me.    that is, if we are picking teams to win rather than develop

in: hogan, pedo, hibberd

out: weideman, ????, melksham

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Trenners should be given a go, Hibberd in as well

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3 minutes ago, ProDee said:

 

I've answered these astute insights in the game changes thread.

But for the sake of repetition, Weideman averaged 10.5 disposals, 3.5 marks, and 1.5 goals in the two games Hogan played.  Hogan is back.

I'd much rather Weideman than the very average Pedersen, who has shown in his 61 AFL games that he's more a VFL player.

Pedersen is a much, much better AFL player than Weideman at this stage.  He will give us more than Weid in every way imaginable.

We have to win games to make the finals, and playing a 19 year old KPF whos not even close to being ready for AFL is a liability.

 

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3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

well dazzle, we need a chf and a ff.      jack watts is neither.   so it's hogan and pedo for me.    that is, if we are picking teams to win rather than develop

in: hogan, pedo, hibberd

out: weideman, ????, melksham

Hannan would be the other out. I don't mind what you have said because i like Watts as that floating 3rd forward.

Hibberd is a definite in for me.

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2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Pedersen is a much, much better AFL player than Weideman at this stage.  He will give us more than Weid in every way imaginable.

Why hasn't he been playing ?

He doesn't compete in the air unless he has the sit.

Even if Weideman is injured with a corky I wouldn't bring in Pedersen.

Pedersen is so good the most goals he's kicked in a season at Melbourne is 14.  Quick, rush him in...

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hannan would be the other out. I don't mind what you have said because i like Watts as that floating 3rd forward.

Hibberd is a definite in for me.

Dazzle, I like Hannan and I reckon he will be a fantastic player for us, I reckon he has some serious X factor! I would much rather have him in and drop Harmes 

Thoughts

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6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hannan would be the other out. I don't mind what you have said because i like Watts as that floating 3rd forward.

Hibberd is a definite in for me.

being a fwd it probably has to be hannan   i like hannan but he's had his taste and showed a few tricks. he'll get another chance soon

the other reason re pedo is it will avoid wattsy getting mauled as relief ruck

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I was at the game today. Only standout for me was Pedo. Lock him in for Monday night.

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9 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Why hasn't he been playing ?

He doesn't compete in the air unless he has the sit.

Even if Weideman is injured with a corky I wouldn't bring in Pedersen.

Pedersen is so good the most goals he's kicked in a season at Melbourne is 14.  Quick, rush him in...

No, not rush him in.

He has earned his spot.

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Watched Oscar today very closely. Man handled a few contests but has a iron fist. Not this week but is the future.

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2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

No, not rush him in.

He has earned his spot.

a besides he has been recovering from shoulder operation

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I cant believe Weiderman is being given excuses. I dont get it.

 

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17 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Why hasn't he been playing ?

He doesn't compete in the air unless he has the sit.

Even if Weideman is injured with a corky I wouldn't bring in Pedersen.

Pedersen is so good the most goals he's kicked in a season at Melbourne is 14.  Quick, rush him in...

Watch the Hawthorn game last year for an example of Pedersen creating an airial contest which benefits Weideman who collects the subsequent  easy loose ball running past and goals from Pedersen's good work.  Pedersen actually competes in the air and on ground level, neither of which Weideman has really shown this year.  I don't even understand how he got picked from his JLT series form, in which he was pretty much just a seagull kicking easy goals in the goal square as a loose man from over the top style handballs from others hard work.  I understand Weid has some good athletic and football atributes which bode well for the 'future' but that shouldn't make him the protected speices he seems to be come match selection.

Put Pedersen's best 14 goal effort in the context that a) he has rarely played a full season, b) spends time away from the forward line in the ruck and c) has played in a Melbourne team that has struggled to kick any goals and the 14 looks ok.

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2 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Watch the Hawthorn game last year for an example of Pedersen creating an airial contest which benefits Weideman who collects the subsequent  easy loose ball running past and goals from Pedersen's good work.  Pedersen actually competes in the air and on ground level, neither of which Weideman has really shown this year.  I don't even understand how he got picked from his JLT series form, in which he was pretty much just a seagull kicking easy goals in the goal square as a loose man from over the top style handballs from others hard work.  I understand Weid has some good athletic and football atributes which bode well for the 'future' but that shouldn't make him the protected speices he seems to be come match selection.

Put Pedersen's best 14 goal effort in the context that a) he has rarely played a full season, b) spends time away from the forward line in the ruck and c) has played in a Melbourne team that has struggled to kick any goals and the 14 looks ok.

Prefer Weideman.

Don't rate Pedersen.  Not AFL quality.

You must be racking your brain why he's not getting a game.  Perhaps you're wrong.

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30 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Dazzle, I like Hannan and I reckon he will be a fantastic player for us, I reckon he has some serious X factor! I would much rather have him in and drop Harmes 

Thoughts

I like Hannon too but he had 0 tackles on the back of going missing for 3 Qtrs.  He's been a passanger we have carried since round 2.

Reward blokes who have put in at VFL.

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42 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Dazzle, I like Hannan and I reckon he will be a fantastic player for us, I reckon he has some serious X factor! I would much rather have him in and drop Harmes 

Thoughts

Bit harsh on Harmes PF, I thought he played pretty well on Saturday. He stuffed up with that final shot as there were options if he lowered his eyes, but it shouldn't have got to that point. He competed hard all day and his efforts in the air are always impressive for a smaller forward. Don't think he should be dropped.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Luther