POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 2

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26 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Hogan and Lewis both be out for next week...

bring in Vince and Spencer.

 

23 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Missed the Lewis one? What did he do??

Nothing. Viney pushed some spud over who went down like an Italian soccer player 

Hogan stupid costing us a shot at goal but really nothing in it

6 minutes ago, olisik said:

Anyone else concerned about Brayshaw?

Had a shocker today - disposal awful but will get another run without doubt 

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15 minutes ago, olisik said:

Anyone else concerned about Brayshaw?

[EDIT] I'm not worried. He was ok without being brilliant last week, had a poor one this week but is better than that today. He'll be fine.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Pates

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Brayshaw is miles off being an afl player.

Can't win the ball and turns it over when he gets it - very disappointed in his ability / development.

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3 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

good:

salem, Clarry, Jeffy, TMac, Jones

poor:

Brayshaw, Harmes, Viney 

Not sure where to put Watts - there was one moment today in the 2nd q, right in front of me on the members side half forward flank, where he led into space, was overlooked and had a sook. The ball was still delivered to his area and he made no effort to get to the contest when he could've easily to spoil or get the ball to ground. Really poor effort. 

But then he did some good things...

an eyesore of a game and I have many more grey hairs. Bit we take the win, move on, and never speak of it again.

Thought Harmes was OK, especially in the last.

Your comments about Watts (a bit harsh, but not much) also apply to Hogan. His midfield play was really good, his forward play was ... not.

And I admit he made quite a few mistakes, but Tyson really has to go into the top group for the truckload of good things he did. So often in the right place at the right time. 

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Ugly game. We were at our 2016 worst for part 2nd and entire 3rd quarter. Last year we would have rolled over in the last quarter also. Good sides find a way to win. 

Jetta put in a fantastic effort in last quarter where he didn't get the ball but we ended up goaling which turned the game our way.

Brayshaw is struggling bad. Hogan still misses critical easy goals though generally I thought he was OK. 

Jones and Clarey were awesome. Garlett did a great small forward job. 

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9 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Constantly going for the chest mark in pack situations was the worst.

It took until the last quarter for him to start getting his hands out to mark it. What happened? He took a really strong mark that resulted in a gaol for us. I don't know why he goes for the chest mark, he has good hands (mostly).

It was an interesting showcase of old Watts v new Watts. Looked out of the contest and one step behind for much of the game but lifted to his 2016 level in the last quarter. I think that's what frustrates the fans, we KNOW he can do better and when he does that we are a much better team. 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Pates

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4 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Brayshaw is miles off being an afl player.

Can't win the ball and turns it over when he gets it - very disappointed in his ability / development.

Fumbles too.

He can kick on both feet, just not very well.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

11 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

For the past six months.

If he got another concussion today, judging by the blood pouring down his face in the last, I would be very worried.

[DeeZee 6,719]

Viney just doesnt seem like Viney this year so far.

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Just now, Wadda We Sing said:

If he got another concussion today, judging by the blood pouring down his face in the last, I would be very worried.

A cut doesn't mean concussion but it is a worry that he gets hit in the head so often.

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1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Fumbles too.

He can kick on both feet, just not very well.

something just not right with Brayshaw.  He looks like a different player than when he first arrived. I hope he gets his mojo back

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7 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Brayshaw is miles off being an afl player.

Can't win the ball and turns it over when he gets it - very disappointed in his ability / development.

DA you're up there with Osilick, Picket and ENYAW with over the over the top statement. 

[Binmans PA 25,898]

As soon as our half forwards and mids started laying tackles inside our forward 50, we put scores on the board. It took until the 4th term to bring the required hunting in packs, chasing and tackling pressure.

Oliver was superb and if he ever puts four quarters of footy together, he will walk to 40 touches. Such a good user and thinker. He just keeps bobbing up. Smashed Cripps in the first quarter. Carlton got back into it when they held him more during the 2nd and 3rd.

Even though he set up a number of goals for us, Watts needs to be dropped I'm afraid. He didn't want it in the air and was soft at the contest. We can't have that anymore. Bring Kent in for him. 

Tyson's return was generally terrific, no doubt aided by Oliver's early dominance. However, it was really important that he stood up, when Clarry was a bit quieter in the middle portion of the game.

Jones was terrific today. An A grade game from him. His only one blemish was a forward fifty entry in the third thay skied to the defenders advantage, but otherwise, he's taken his game to another level. What a credit to him.

On the other side of the coin, Viney has been terrible two weeks in a row now and this week in particular.

Brayshaw was equally terrible. I only recall one effective possession for the game (and he didn't have many). 

Back on the positives, Salem played his best game for the club and can only remember him turning it over once. Was great in defence, solid in the contest and gathered a heap of uncontested possessions and used it well.

I thought Petracca's efforts today for probably a half to three quarters was simply pathetic. He jogged around and played like a millionaire. Needs to lift big time next week, otherwise he's wasting his immense potential. A good goal he kicked though.

Jeffy kept us in it with his sharpness around goal and Harmes' gut running in the last (despite his horrible kicking in the first three quarters) was a key reason we managed to lay more tackles across half forward in the 4th.

Another solid game for Gawny, although Kreuzer probably broke even with him at the stoppages.

Our ball use this week was disappointing, particularly forward of centre, and we failed to move it quick enough. It was a pretty impressive coaching display by Bolton, but in the end, Goodwin had him at the end of the day.

Melbourne and Geelong will want to play a lot better than that next week. Both pretty poor against poor opposition.

And finally, what I said about Oliver before last game (him passing Cripps by the end of the year) looks to be close on the money, if Clarry can remain fit for the rest of the season and he keeps getting support from his other mids, he'll get there.

Edited April 2, 2017 by A F

[DeeZee 6,719]

I thought Jordan Lewis looked slow today, for some reason his kickng hasn't  been great either 

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25 minutes ago, olisik said:

Anyone else concerned about Brayshaw?

Looked slow. We need to decide what his role is. He needs to fix his disposal. 

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Never in doubt

[DeeZee 6,719]

Brayshaw reminds me of Trengove, very competitive but the pace of the game is a little too quick for him 

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18 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Brayshaw is miles off being an afl player.

Can't win the ball and turns it over when he gets it - very disappointed in his ability / development.

Your first statement is not only over the top, but doesn't make sense. He IS an AFL player and will be for a long time.

I think he's a clear rung below Oliver and probably not going to be a superstar but he was solid last week and best 22.

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Our backline ultimately won the game for us today I thought.  They got the job done, and more often than not it was the mids and roamers that let us down going forward. The McDonald's were both great. Jetta was great.  Salem. I think people underestimate our defense. There was a Carlton onslaught in the third and we're lucky we weren't 5-6 goals down the way we and they played. Our backline really held firm and our structure down back was superb I thought. 

That's a positive to take out from today.

 A year ago, we fold and lose that game.

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1 hour ago, Nasher said:

You obviously missed the Brisbane win last year.

Or the Gold Coast one at the G.

[Sir Why You Little 34,420]

Melksham worries me

22 uncontested possessions

concerning

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1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Worst. Win. Ever.

Gold Coast last year? 

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Melksham worries me

22 uncontested possessions

concerning

Not an issue.  Uncontested parson means he is linking up or taking intercepts. 

 

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27 minutes ago, Pates said:

[EDIT] I'm not worried. He was ok without being brilliant last week, had a poor one this week but is better than that today. He'll be fine.

Haven't seen his "better than that" often enough so far I'm afraid Pates

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Just now, deanox said:

Not an issue.  Uncontested parson means he is linking up or taking intercepts. 

 

Yeah maybe, but a class opponent will kill him