POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 2

[Chris 2,892]

They wanted it more, ran more all day, and tried everything they had. 

We looked lazy, overused the ball, and didn't run for the first three quarters. 

One of the worst display I have seen in a while. 

We still won! We finally played badly in a game we should win and managed to win. Hopefully it keeps up!

[Akum 2,660]

5 minutes ago, praha said:

Tyson with most AFL Fantasy points. 145.

Absolutely hilarious all those potting Tyson.

Clarry got a lot of it but wasn't nearly as crisp & clean as he was last week. There are times when just a simple bandpass will do. He'll learn heaps from this.

Salem clear BOG.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 minutes ago, Age said:

Before the free game today fox footy showed that we have youngest list with also the second least games experience wise. If we can keep developing there could be good things ahead. All I took out of today was that we managed to grind out the win instead of me walking away hating the team after losing another game. 

Yes lets not forget that....the youngest team in the AFL. Its not all gloom and doom is it....

[praha 10,267]

1 minute ago, Akum said:

Absolutely hilarious all those potting Tyson.

Clarry got a lot of it but wasn't nearly as crisp & clean as he was last week. There are times when just a simple bandpass will do. He'll learn heaps from this.

Salem clear BOG.

He was okay. Had a good last quarter.

[Age 379]

3 minutes ago, Danelska said:

Who has the least game experience

Suns have us by about 4 games, 66 to 70

[Akum 2,660]

1 minute ago, Chris said:

They wanted it more, ran more all day, and tried everything they had. 

We looked lazy, overused the ball, and didn't run for the first three quarters. 

One of the worst display I have seen in a while. 

We still won! We finally played badly in a game we should win and managed to win. Hopefully it keeps up!

Not at all. I didn't think we ever looked lazy, we looked more panicked & frenetic & pressured.

And we couldn't figure out or anticipate what they were trying to do, which was an extra defender or two and then use width to attack as we drop off them.

Confused, yes, but never lazy, I thought we gave it everything the whole game. We needed that bit of class in that last quarter.

[Pates 9,536]

Carlton heaped the pressure on us all day save for that small period in the second where it looked like we might kick away a bit. If I were a Blues fan I would be very happy with what Bolton is teaching them, they were mostly disciplined and moved the ball well in that third quarter. I think we absorbed the pressure when it came but as Lewis said we over used the ball too much at times, I get the chip and go idea and hold onto the ball but we need to also look at releasing into space and not boxing ourselves in.

Well done to Harmes today, not a starring role but did some very important things and held his position well. 

Oliver is a freak, he's going to be (if he already isn't) an absolute star for us. I'd say he's in front in our B&F.

Salem played a great game and I'm stoked for him. If anyone deserves a clean run at it it's him.

Jetta was phenomenal, how good was his contest against Kruezer and he stood up at the end!

I could go on but ultimately it won't be a fondly looked at game, we won in most of the key areas but butchered it a lot of times to keep them in it and then the Blues got a sniff in the third term. We can be so much better and we got the win so onto Geelong, be ready to take some huge pressure into the game next week because it they thought this week was tough I feel like next week could be a really charged atmosphere. 

[tappysquads 618]

6 minutes ago, Chris said:

They wanted it more, ran more all day, and tried everything they had. 

We looked lazy, overused the ball, and didn't run for the first three quarters. 

One of the worst display I have seen in a while. 

We still won! We finally played badly in a game we should win and managed to win. Hopefully it keeps up!

So far off the mark it's ridiculous. They had a red hot crack. We played the better footy all day, just our skills weren't up to the game plan quite a bit, but we were harder, had the more damaging players and cleaner in close and got away with it. Gotta get those ugly wins to finish high. Job done, next!

[Skuit 9,108]

We weren't horrible. Overused it and so the turnovers will follow. But the difference in the last; back to fearless footy. 

[Chris 2,892]

Just now, tappysquads said:

So far off the mark it's ridiculous. They had a red hot crack. We played the better footy all day, just our skills weren't up to the game plan quite a bit, but we were harder, had the more damaging players and cleaner in close and got away with it. Gotta get those ugly wins to finish high. Job done, next!

Lost count of the number of times we were found out with their spread with players jogging to position. They clearly ran harder from the view on telly. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Our decision making was worse than our skills.

We were too cocky and played too cute at the start, we should have been ten goals up by half time if we played smart direct football because we were clearly a class above.

[Demonised 1,198]

We played like millionaires in the first quarter but didn't put enough goals on the board. Game went downhill after that.

[Binmans PA 25,873]

17 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Mistake central.

Jones, Salem and T-Mac really solid and Garlett inspiring.

Tyson didn't need to come in as I said. 80% mistakes, his man beat him to the contest most times. Makes us look slower.

O-Mac will go straight out for Frost when Frost is ready. 

Happy to get a win out of a performance like that.

Let's actually show up with some smarts and skills against Geelong though.

Otherwise #187 here we go 

You have got to be kidding me, Steve. He was just about best on ground and kicked the sealer. He's slow, but he gut runs and gets to most contests and kicks goals.

[tappysquads 618]

Just now, Chris said:

Lost count of the number of times we were found out with their spread with players jogging to position. They clearly ran harder from the view on telly. 

That only happens when we were running forward of the ball and our poor skills turned it over leaving space and loose players ahead for Carlton. You can't attack and defend at the same time. Had nothing to do with work rate.

[Brayshaws' Helmet 143]

2 minutes ago, Akum said:

Not at all. I didn't think we ever looked lazy, we looked more panicked & frenetic & pressured.

And we couldn't figure out or anticipate what they were trying to do, which was an extra defender or two and then use width to attack as we drop off them.

Confused, yes, but never lazy, I thought we gave it everything the whole game. We needed that bit of class in that last quarter.

Agreed, never thought they looked lazy, definitely tried all day, you could see some players running with nothing left in the tank in the last. It wasn't a great win by any means, but it's the emergence of a more competitive team.

i think the panic is because they expected to win, and lost control. At least they came over the top outplayed them in 3 quarters. More polish in some areas, but just played better overall. Deserved the win, has everyone forgot the first half?

[olisik 4,060]

Anyone else concerned about Brayshaw?

[dl4e 5,578]

A win is a win I spose. Salem and Cripps the best players.

[71 Molloy 266]

Just now, olisik said:

Anyone else concerned about Brayshaw?

No, but he did look miles off it today.

[xarronn 380]

7 minutes ago, Chris said:

They wanted it more, ran more all day, and tried everything they had. 

We looked lazy, overused the ball, and didn't run for the first three quarters. 

One of the worst display I have seen in a while. 

We still won! We finally played badly in a game we should win and managed to win. Hopefully it keeps up!

Well not that long ago, -  since the last round in 2016 against Geelong. So that makes it only the worst display since two (AFL), games ago.

Nearly everything else you wrote I agree with. (Not sure about didn't run for three quarters).

[Chris 2,892]

Thought Hannon did very well at times, especially in the last. Oliver is a gun, Watts stood up when needed, as did Jones and to a lesser extent Viney. Jetta is a dead set gun. The mac Bros were solid. Jeffy has found his chase again, has started the year very well. Harmes also stood up when needed and Salem showed what we have seen glimpses of for the last few years. 

[Chris 2,892]

3 minutes ago, tappysquads said:

That only happens when we were running forward of the ball and our poor skills turned it over leaving space and loose players ahead for Carlton. You can't attack and defend at the same time. Had nothing to do with work rate.

Understand that but I would expect them to run back, not jog. Too many were jogging. 

[Deemented Are Go! 3,581]

good:

salem, Clarry, Jeffy, TMac, Jones

poor:

Brayshaw, Harmes, Viney 

Not sure where to put Watts - there was one moment today in the 2nd q, right in front of me on the members side half forward flank, where he led into space, was overlooked and had a sook. The ball was still delivered to his area and he made no effort to get to the contest when he could've easily to spoil or get the ball to ground. Really poor effort. 

But then he did some good things...

an eyesore of a game and I have many more grey hairs. Bit we take the win, move on, and never speak of it again.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

5 minutes ago, olisik said:

Anyone else concerned about Brayshaw?

For the past six months.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 minute ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Not sure where to put Watts - there was one moment today in the 2nd q, right in front of me on the members side half forward flank, where he led into space, was overlooked and had a sook. The ball was still delivered to his area and he made no effort to get to the contest when he could've easily to spoil or get the ball to ground. Really poor effort.

For every good thing he did he also had about two half-hearted contests.

Constantly going for the chest mark in pack situations was the worst.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,089]

Good teams win when they play like shyte. We'll take the win, plenty to work on still.

Garletts brilliant run down tackle and goal one of the very few highlights, it was just awesome with the game on the line.