Jack Watts

[ManDee 7,073]

I think Lucifers hero is on the money.

It is far more likely that Jack after a full pre-season has eased up a bit. I think that he did not push himself in the intraclub and that was noticed, raising the ire of the coaches. That is all. If he feels left out, good. I understand not wanting an injury and easing off a bit. The coaches are dealing with many players, few as talented as Watts, he may think he is a special case but in a team environment he needs to be a bit more like Viney, by the way which of them is co-captain? Watts is smart he will work it out and have a great year.

No fire here, smoke machine operating.

 

[hardtack 10,126]

I thought I read in a couple of places (Twitter, Facebook, here?) that Watts had some sort of thumb injury that occurred during the intra-club match and that he has his thumb in some sort of 'brace' (supposedly seen at the family day). Is there any truth to that? If so, wouldn't that go some way to explaining his omission?

Edited February 20, 2017 by hardtack

[daisycutter 28,459]

jeez, i hope no senior player gets "rested" for any of the next 2 jlt games. the rumours will really fly

[Dante 2,562]

Hopefully the club will get on top of this and clear the air, if he has an injury, then say so, Jack has copped too much over time and doesn't need another assault from the media.

If he was in poor shape, then say so and don't let this get any legs.

 

[Bossdog 2,002]

So.....Let me get this straight.........A senior player doesn't get picked in the first practice match of the year in Feb  (horror   horror)

Coach wants to see how young blokes go against a top four side (Great)

Said player has a thumb or finger in a cast at family day.

Club or coach gives no explaination for who or why certain players played or didn't (Great)

Media goes into melt down and Jack Watts is in dought for round 1 which is still a month away.

DL blames it on Jack's new hair cut   (Geeze JJ from the bulldogs is in trouble with his new do)

So I can only conclude that Jack is lazy, full of himself, unfit, has a bad attitude, and really wants to go to Collingwood?

Have I got this right?????

 

 

 

[beelzebub 22,225]

15 minutes ago, Bossdog said:

So.....Let me get this straight.........A senior player doesn't get picked in the first practice match of the year in Feb  (horror   horror)

Coach wants to see how young blokes go against a top four side (Great)

Said player has a thumb or finger in a cast at family day.

Club or coach gives no explaination for who or why certain players played or didn't (Great)

Media goes into melt down and Jack Watts is in dought for round 1 which is still a month away.

DL blames it on Jack's new hair cut   (Geeze JJ from the bulldogs is in trouble with his new do)

So I can only conclude that Jack is lazy, full of himself, unfit, has a bad attitude, and really wants to go to Collingwood?

Have I got this right?????

 

 

 

got it in spades

Hilarious isn't it !!

[Redleg 37,478]

14 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

, all the journos are regular readers of Demonland

And so they should be, if they want to improve some of the poor articles written about footy in the last few years.

Demonland is clearly a better writers' education source than journalism school. 

Edited February 20, 2017 by Redleg

[binman 37,793]

My guess:

By all reports (DL and in the media) Watts has come back from hi s off season break in great condition, has not missed a training session since and is in good shape (which is pretty evident from the pictures of him).

He goes to Qld for the intensive 10 day training club and perhaps does not apply himself (across several areas perhaps eg diet, on the track, preparation, participation in craft and education sessions) - to the level required, particularly of a senior player. 

A couple of days after returning from the camp we have our intra club game and he does not perform very well and perhaps his preparation for it was not ideal (maybe went out and caught up with mates after being away?).

The coaching panel not impressed (and this dribbles out and becomes a rumour) and advise him he won't be picked for the first JLT game. They tell him to pull his finger out and through his efforts on the track demand his spot for the next one.

If i'm right no hanging offence and i applaud the approach taken. That said at this point in his career Watts should be pushing to be in the leadership group not being reprimanded for his attitude,

I expect Goody will address the issue pretty directly (as, refreshingly is his wont) in his next presser and say something along the lines that others fighting for forward positions worked harder over the last two weeks and the intra club game and deserved a game more than jack.

As an aside goody could have headed all of this off at the pass and made up some spin as to why Jack was not selected in his pre game presseer. He chose not to. I am assuming to send a message to Jack. 

 

 

Edited February 20, 2017 by binman

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Here's what drives me nuts. The whole thing is probably just  Goody making an example of a senior player to show he's top dog, and to let the hard push filter through some of the lesser lights. Who else can he push? Jones? Viney? Push them any harder and they might self combust. But now, if Jack misses a kick, or looks tired at all (everyone cramps early int he year) the media will jump on him, so it's already "true." To prove the point... let's say Hogan gets dropped for next week. Which could happen with his calf/ankle/shin whatever it was. It's unlikely to be reported, as he played the game out on the field. The media won't jump on his back, it'll simply be a regular pre-season rotation. In effect it's all the same with him as with Watts, only Watts is now news. The journos (and I use that term quite wrongly) are beating up a story they KNOW will be clickbait. Jack is screwed if he does and screwed if he doesn't.

I got texts straight after the game Saturday from West Coast mates asking where he was with wink emojis. These same guys who were saying Gawn is sliding down fantasy mock drafts since Spencer is now apparently taking on a bigger role. What a load of crap. His omission didn't seem odd to me on the day (we were STACKED with talent, and all kids)... and now because of the media, and a bit of demonland hysteria, it's become a thing.

[sue 8,412]

28 minutes ago, binman said:

As an aside goody could have headed all of this off at the pass and made up some spin as to why Jack was not selected in his pre game presseer. He chose not to. I am assuming to send a message to Jack. 

 

 

Why the need for any spin at all? If the coach and club feel obliged to counter every rumour that floats from these pages or elsewhere (directly or in the manner you suggest) then it will be seen as very significant when they don't, making that particular situation worse.

We have more players than 22 who need a go in the JLT.  We could just as easily believe a story that Watts was not asked ot play because he was a lock for Round 1 and so no point playing in every JLT.

Edited February 20, 2017 by sue

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,381]

If I were picking a team for a practice match and I wanted to see how the team functions with two genuine ruckman, I would not play three tall forwards, otherwise the two ruckman experiment wouldn't be properly tested. I would therefore not play the most experienced of my tall forwards so as to get extra time into younger players such as Hogan and Weideman. Ergo, I wouldn't play Watts or Pedersen.

The above seems to have as much merit as any other argument posted here.

[Melbournepotter 264]

Ha ha..Sen have just said that Max Gawn has said that  Watts is battling to be in Melbournes best 22. Talk about twisting words to suit your agenda or to seemingly create an issue where none exists...

 

[daisycutter 28,459]

this will be bigger than essengate. mark my words.

[gsmith12 491]

I attended the camp at Maroochydore and to suggest that Jack was anything but super fit is ludicrous. He trained with vigour and displayed his usual class during match practice.

I was very surprised at his omission at the weekend.

[Engorged Onion 9,239]

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

this will be bigger than essengate. mark my words.

In the papers for at least 6 years minimum...

 

Edited February 21, 2017 by Danelska
photo

[Melbournepotter 264]

9 minutes ago, Danelska said:

In the papers for at least 6 years minimum...

 

Poor Max...my impression of his interview was that everyone, including Jack had to fight for their position because the depth is greater than it has been for some time.

[Sir Why You Little 34,420]

43 minutes ago, Melbournepotter said:

Ha ha..Sen have just said that Max Gawn has said that  Watts is battling to be in Melbournes best 22. Talk about twisting words to suit your agenda or to seemingly create an issue where none exists...

 

KB & Waldron?

it is a disgrace Waldron is given a Media Job in this city after what he did to the Storm. 

[McQueen 17,862]

15 hours ago, america de cali said:

AS Donald Trump says; "Fake news...Fake  news!"

[binman 37,793]

13 minutes ago, sue said:

Why the need for any spin at all? If the coach and club feel obliged to counter every rumour that floats from these pages or elsewhere (directly or in the manner you suggest) then it will be seen as very significant when they don't, making that particular situation worse.

We have more players than 22 who need a go in the JLT.  We could just as easily believe a story that Watts was not asked ot play because he was a lock for Round 1 and so no point playing in every JLT.

I meant that Goody could have prevented any rumors by explaining his omission. He has been around long enough to know that not selecting jack and not giving any reason (eg he could have just said they want to rotate the forwards and give them all a crack) was always going to fuel speculation and potentially also rumours.  

[Demonland 64,416]

[binman 37,793]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

This is all Leoncelli 36's fault

[Fork 'em 6,507]

15 hours ago, Seraph said:

He's been right into the pies over summer, clearly. 

Clearly needs to pull his forkin' pants up.
 

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

I think they are resting him for September.

[Sir Why You Little 34,420]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

2 people needed to write a beat up like that

Slow News Day

[Gator 16,891]

Seemingly, I'm one of the few disappointed that a player entering his ninth year, off the back of one good year where he placed top 5 in the B&F, was left out of a squad of 29 due to unsatisfactory training efforts efforts.

Granted, it's a small story and I doubt it will impact his year, but it reinforces an immaturity that helps explain why he's produced very little in the first 7 years of his career and has never threatened to get near the leadership group.