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11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Chooch will lead in time! Patience my friend!

What chooch train are you talking about? I totally missed it. And please remember, Germans respect punctuality.  Unlike the British: Punctuality is the virtue of the bored, according to Evelyn Waugh.

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New co-captain Jack Viney said Lewis had been “terrific”, saying: “We are different to Hawthorn, there are things we (do) better and things we weren’t doing as well, so being able to bounce things off Jordy is invaluable.”

 

Things we do better. Go tear 'em one Jack! 

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1 hour ago, dieter said:

What chooch train are you talking about? I totally missed it. And please remember, Germans respect punctuality.  Unlike the British: Punctuality is the virtue of the bored, according to Evelyn Waugh.

"I'm the chairman of the bored" according to James Newell Osterberg Jr.

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13 hours ago, pinkshark said:

 

Whilst i'm at it, I just have to ask...Is Burgs the worst interviewer in the history of audiovisual communications.

 

 

Absolutely agree! The only question he can muster us: How did you find it!

His recent interview with Petracca is a disgrace. Surely it would be normal to have a list of questions you wanted to ask? No insights whatsoever.

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6 hours ago, dieter said:

What chooch train are you talking about? I totally missed it. And please remember, Germans respect punctuality.  Unlike the British: Punctuality is the virtue of the bored, according to Evelyn Waugh.

Picket is referring to the late Winston Choochill; a noted figure during the time of the infamous Waugh.

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Imo, Viney needs to concentrate on becoming a better player and continue to work on the deficiencies in his game without the added burden and associated distractions that captaincy brings.

I see little obvious gains from the decision and potential unwanted ramifications for a young player.  

Jones would also question why this "model" is superior to what he's been providing.  However, Jones' feelings are less of a concern to me.  More the burden on Viney.

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I wonder how much input Lewis had in this decision.  He has come from an environment where they had a star leader in Mitchell, but always had Hodge lurking/waiting in the background.  The decision was made to change captains while Mitchell was still on the list.

Perhaps Lewis' contribution was that Viney will undoubtedly be captain soon, so the best way to implement this, while respecting Jones, is to introduce the co-captin model.

Just a thought, may be far from accurate!

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1 hour ago, billy2803 said:

I wonder how much input Lewis had in this decision.  He has come from an environment where they had a star leader in Mitchell, but always had Hodge lurking/waiting in the background.  The decision was made to change captains while Mitchell was still on the list.

Perhaps Lewis' contribution was that Viney will undoubtedly be captain soon, so the best way to implement this, while respecting Jones, is to introduce the co-captin model.

Just a thought, may be far from accurate!

is about the only thing that makes any sense...Otherwise an absolute naff idea...for mine.

I would have thought Viney as VC for a few years would do as much.

I dont like it...but there's bigger fish to fry

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9 hours ago, 3Dee said:

New co-captain Jack Viney said Lewis had been “terrific”, saying: “We are different to Hawthorn, there are things we (do) better and things we weren’t doing as well, so being able to bounce things off Jordy is invaluable.”

 

Things we do better. Go tear 'em one Jack! 

Don't get a big head Jack

This is exactly why i don't like Co Captaincy

If he was VC Jonesy could then tell him to   Keep quiet and keep things in house. 

Remember when Chris Dawes bagged out Whorethorn a few years back

Worked a treat. 

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No one is perfect, we all have flaws. Perhaps sharing the role between the two, who clearly have different personalities, will create a better balance and allow both of them to utilise their strengths more effectively. Similarly other players may respond better to one or the other so with Jones and Viney working together we might have a more engaged team.

Don't mind this at all. Co-captains has clearly been successful in most instances.

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10 hours ago, dieter said:

What chooch train are you talking about? I totally missed it. And please remember, Germans respect punctuality.  Unlike the British: Punctuality is the virtue of the bored, according to Evelyn Waugh.

shhhh dieters, don't mention the deutsche reichsbahn

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11 hours ago, picket fence said:

I reckon Todd Viney has a definate conflict of interest here and needs to step aside! Just sayin! IMO

Chunk Jones a standout leader! 

So you are saying Todd Viney chose his son as captain? Yeah right.

I'd say it was Goody's call and Todd had SFA to do with it.

 

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3 hours ago, ProDee said:

Imo, Viney needs to concentrate on becoming a better player and continue to work on the deficiencies in his game without the added burden and associated distractions that captaincy brings.

I see little obvious gains from the decision and potential unwanted ramifications for a young player.  

Jones would also question why this "model" is superior to what he's been providing.  However, Jones' feelings are less of a concern to me.  More the burden on Viney.

You could argue that for any player in the league, irrespective of age.

Jones still needs to improve for example. Is the captaincy title a burden for him?

If you see potential unwanted ramifications for a young player, how can you not equally see potential gains for the entire squad as well as Viney himself?

 

Our 2016 B&F winner. Runner up in 2015. Already one of the toughest players in the competition at 22. 

His trajectory in both form and growth as a player has steadily increased from the time he came to the club and he is clearly the leader and driver for the 22-23 y/o and under brigade at the club. They all look up to him. 

As Roos said last year; "He (Viney) typifies where we’re trying to take this team."

It's a no-brainer.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

You could argue that for any player in the league, irrespective of age.

Jones still needs to improve for example. Is the captaincy title a burden for him?

If you see potential unwanted ramifications for a young player, how can you not equally see potential gains for the entire squad as well as Viney himself?

 

Our 2016 B&F winner. Runner up in 2015. Already one of the toughest players in the competition at 22. 

His trajectory in both form and growth as a player has steadily increased from the time he came to the club and he is clearly the leader and driver for the 22-23 y/o and under brigade at the club. They all look up to him. 

As Roos said last year; "He (Viney) typifies where we’re trying to take this team."

It's a no-brainer.

 

 

Stick to identifying body types.

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This is a form of succession. We DIDN'T have co-coaches to facilitate that did we. You had acoach in waiting. This is what should be happening now.

It isn't. I find that odd and AT odds with what's been proven to work recently within the culture of the club as recently architected.

Dont &$@! this up Melbourne.

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My theory is that Goodwin is implementing a leadership model for the next decade that has a flexible interchangeable component.

When they forecast the future they'd see a standout young leader in Brayshaw and potentially others.  With a one captain policy it's conceivable someone like Brayshaw would never get a chance.  This model allows for someone like him and others to be rewarded and aspire for greatet honours.

While I'm not a fan this facet does have merit.

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On 11/02/2017 at 5:10 AM, dee-tox said:

Absolutely agree! The only question he can muster us: How did you find it!

His recent interview with Petracca is a disgrace. Surely it would be normal to have a list of questions you wanted to ask? No insights whatsoever.

Feed it back to the club methinks...

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I would not be surprised, and this is not a knock on chunk, if they did a leading teams style of vote and Viney won. Whilst it is not to say he is our best leader, questions associated with leading teams would suit Viney to a tee and why he is in the leadership group for the last couple years. 

With a younger list of players and Viney epitomising the style of play/attitude we want, it would be no surprise to see the younger players looking up to him. 

This is all opinion, but if this was the case the co captain model would be implemented because Goodwin realises that whilst Viney has plenty of leadership traits, he will still have plenty to learn from Chunk and thus co captains 

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