A Day at the Races

[Macca 16,173]

5 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Well done guys on the new name for the thread.

Yes,  well done @Wadda We Sing and to those who you contacted. 

We'll get to 100 pages before you know it ... especially with the best bet/tipping comp being in operation. 

I reckon a good number of regular contributors would be 8 - 12.  The more the merrier really.  We may not get to that number but we've now got a few things in place to attract some more punters. 

Had a sneak peek at the first big Group 1 of the Autumn (Details - The C F Orr Stakes) and there's any number of familiar names entered.  It's a really good field. 

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8 minutes ago, Macca said:

Yes,  well done @Wadda We Sing and to those who you contacted. 

We'll get to 100 pages before you know it ... especially with the best bet/tipping comp being in operation. 

I reckon a good number of regular contributors would be 8 - 12.  The more the merrier really.  We may not get to that number but we've now got a few things in place to attract some more punters. 

Had a sneak peek at the first big Group 1 of the Autumn (Details - The C F Orr Stakes) and there's any number of familiar names entered.  It's a really good field. 

Thanks to Macca for the suggestion. Thanks to Demonland for the thread title change. Cheers guys.

Edited January 30, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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23 minutes ago, Macca said:

Yes,  well done @Wadda We Sing and to those who you contacted. 

We'll get to 100 pages before you know it ... especially with the best bet/tipping comp being in operation. 

I reckon a good number of regular contributors would be 8 - 12.  The more the merrier really.  We may not get to that number but we've now got a few things in place to attract some more punters. 

Had a sneak peek at the first big Group 1 of the Autumn (Details - The C F Orr Stakes) and there's any number of familiar names entered.  It's a really good field. 

Well CF Orr Stakes huh, here we go. Two of my fav horses here in Tosen Stardom and Voodoo Lad. Tosen has placed over the distance 1400m and begins his journey to The Doncaster 1600 and The Queen Elizabeth 2000 both at Randwick in April. Voodoo Lad, 19 placings from 24 starts (10.7.2) has good form over this distance including a few wins. More will develop as we head toward the race in a week and a half.

Edited January 30, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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46 minutes ago, Macca said:

Yes,  well done @Wadda We Sing and to those who you contacted. 

We'll get to 100 pages before you know it ... especially with the best bet/tipping comp being in operation. 

I reckon a good number of regular contributors would be 8 - 12.  The more the merrier really.  We may not get to that number but we've now got a few things in place to attract some more punters. 

Had a sneak peek at the first big Group 1 of the Autumn (Details - The C F Orr Stakes) and there's any number of familiar names entered.  It's a really good field. 

Above average field in that race.

Interestingly, the Group 2 Australia Stakes is often a good lead-up race for the Orr, the one where Mr Weir stated Brave Smash was a little "underdone."

The Group and Listed races link is proving very useful Macca.

Let the fun begin.

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18 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Above average field in that race.

Interestingly, the Group 2 Australia Stakes is often a good lead-up race for the Orr, the one where Mr Weir stated Brave Smash was a little "underdone."

The Group and Listed races link is proving very useful Macca.

Let the fun begin.

Well i went down to the TAB to see if i could get on The Orr Stakes, and it wasnt up. I thought it would have been by now surely? TAB up to their usual shenanigans already?.....one day ill go get a bookie!

Edited January 31, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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19 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Well i went down to the TAB to see if i could get on The Orr Stakes, and it wasnt up. I thought it would have been by now surely? TAB up to their usual shenanigans already?.....one day ill go get a bookie!

You're right Wadda, the odds were up when I had look at the Tab app last night.

I just had a look again and no Orr market in the futures.

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1 hour ago, Demon77 said:

You're right Wadda, the odds were up when I had look at the Tab app last night.

I just had a look again and no Orr market in the futures.

It should be up, if there is a horse problem, then it should say betting suspended. The Commonwealth games has 4 events up......The Doncaster is up and thats in April. If they sell tickets to an event, the market should be up. Wake Up TAB>.

I like getting on early, and putting the ticket on the fridge with a magnet! Its fun.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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Tosen Stardom	4.50
Black Heart Bart	5.00
Hartnell	5.50
Mr Sneaky	7.00
Brave Smash	8.00
Johannes Vermeer	9.00
Single Gaze	11.00
Thronum	11.00
Humidor	13.00
The Taj Mahal	15.00
Global Glamour	17.00
Lucky Hussler	17.00
Mighty Boss	17.00
Theanswermyfriend	21.00
Dollar For Dollar	26.00
Burning Front	34.00
Gailo Chop	34.00
I Am A Star	34.00 This is ladbrokes market, theres a few more but i couldnt fit them all in, (pardon the pun). Seems Voodoo Lad has disappeared? Maybe thats why he was 26/1...Black Heart Bart won the race last year. Any early thoughts??

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1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Tosen Stardom	4.50
Black Heart Bart	5.00
Hartnell	5.50
Mr Sneaky	7.00
Brave Smash	8.00
Johannes Vermeer	9.00
Single Gaze	11.00
Thronum	11.00
Humidor	13.00
The Taj Mahal	15.00
Global Glamour	17.00
Lucky Hussler	17.00
Mighty Boss	17.00
Theanswermyfriend	21.00
Dollar For Dollar	26.00
Burning Front	34.00
Gailo Chop	34.00
I Am A Star	34.00 This is ladbrokes market, theres a few more but i couldnt fit them all in, (pardon the pun). Seems Voodoo Lad has disappeared? Maybe thats why he was 26/1...Black Heart Bart won the race last year. Any early thoughts??

I like Tosen Stardom although Thronum won the lead-up race last Friday night (The Australia Stakes) ... Mr Sneaky ran 2nd and Brave Smash needed the run (apparently) and ran 5th. 

I was impressed with the run of Tshahitsi on Saturday but it looks like the horse has been withdrawn.  Hartnell & Johannes Vermeer have real claims too.  And then there's Humidor and a few others!  It's a multiple trifecta race for mine. 

I've had a bit of a look at the Expressway Stakes (the Ace High race) and 'Goodfella' is at good odds (9-1) .. the horse ran a 1.5 length 2nd to an ultra impressive Pierata in the Gold Coast Guineas.  Race time 1:21.0 for the 1400m.  Early doors but it might be a go for the place although I reckon it can win. 

Australian Group & Listed Races

Edited January 31, 2018 by Macca

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1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Tosen Stardom	4.50
Black Heart Bart	5.00
Hartnell	5.50
Mr Sneaky	7.00
Brave Smash	8.00
Johannes Vermeer	9.00
Single Gaze	11.00
Thronum	11.00
Humidor	13.00
The Taj Mahal	15.00
Global Glamour	17.00
Lucky Hussler	17.00
Mighty Boss	17.00
Theanswermyfriend	21.00
Dollar For Dollar	26.00
Burning Front	34.00
Gailo Chop	34.00
I Am A Star	34.00 This is ladbrokes market, theres a few more but i couldnt fit them all in, (pardon the pun). Seems Voodoo Lad has disappeared? Maybe thats why he was 26/1...Black Heart Bart won the race last year. Any early thoughts??

Thanks Wadda.

I was prepared to go with Brave Smash, thinking he could redeem himself but the list above is a little different to the market I saw last night.  

It looks like they have added some serious horse flesh in the current market.

Neds is currently offering $12 for Brave Smash. I might have to play the waiting game for now and start concentrating on the Expressway Stakes.

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 Update on Santos.

Randwick barrier trial 29th Jan.

 Keep your eye on the widest barrier, yellow jacket. 

Dan Zephyr was our summer horse, Santos might be our Autumn horse.

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Jan29&VenueCode=MzI4NjYy&RaceNumber=16&MeetingCategory=Trial&VideoFileType=Last400m

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48 minutes ago, Macca said:

I like Tosen Stardom although Thronum won the lead-up race last Friday night (The Australia Stakes) ... Mr Sneaky ran 2nd and Brave Smash needed the run (apparently) and ran 5th. 

I was impressed with the run of Tshahitsi on Saturday but it looks like the horse has been withdrawn.  Hartnell & Johannes Vermeer have real claims too.  And then there's Humidor and a few others!  It's a multiple trifecta race for mine. 

I've had a bit of a look at the Expressway Stakes (the Ace High race) and 'Goodfella' is at good odds (9-1) .. the horse ran a 1.5 length 2nd to an ultra impressive Pierata in the Gold Coast Guineas.  Race time 1:21.0 for the 1400m.  Early doors but it might be a go for the place although I reckon it can win. 

Australian Group & Listed Races

Do we think this race is too short for Ace High? It has won over 1400m and came 2nd at 1100 in his first start...Orr Stakes is looking harder by the day.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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18 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Do we think this race is too short for Ace High? I guess so really...Orr Stakes is looking harder by the day.

May well be short Wadda but it's a quality galloper.

 I'm finding the links by Macca quite useful. Ace High had a barrier trial over 900m on the 21st of Jan and finished 5th of 9 by 1.2 lengths.

It states, behind leaders, deeper and held together. It doesn't sound too bad, I might have to try and dig up the replay of that trial.

Trials might not be some people's cup of tea, but they could prove useful if you wanted to follow a horse throughout a preparation.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Demon77

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1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Do we think this race is too short for Ace High? I guess so really...Orr Stakes is looking harder by the day.

I'm in 2 minds with the Expressway Stakes ... I keep looking at Ace High thinking it will fight it right out to the finish and Goodfella could be flashing home.  As a trifecta race - definitely.  Best Bet - maybe someone else can see the horse to pick. 

I like a few others at Rosehill but again,  it's early doors and would like to see all the fixed odds.  I'm looking at 1 best bet out of these 4 possible picks ... I'm leaning towards 'Don't Give A Damn.  Let me know what you think fellas. 

Race 1  No.2  ... From Within

Race 5  No.12 ... Kopi Luwak

Race 6  No.9 ..... Bye See

Race 9  No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn

All the Rosehill Races - Feb 3rd

The W J Adams Stakes & the Manfred Stakes at Caulfield both have interesting fields. 

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25 minutes ago, Macca said:

I'm in 2 minds with the Expressway Stakes ... I keep looking at Ace High thinking it will fight it right out to the finish and Goodfella could be flashing home.  As a trifecta race - definitely.  Best Bet - maybe someone else can see the horse to pick. 

I like a few others at Rosehill but again,  it's early doors and would like to see all the fixed odds.  I'm looking at 1 best bet out of these 4 possible picks ... I'm leaning towards 'Don't Give A Damn.  Let me know what you think fellas. 

Race 1  No.2  ... From Within

Race 5  No.12 ... Kopi Luwak

Race 6  No.9 ..... Bye See

Race 9  No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn

All the Rosehill Races - Feb 3rd

The W J Adams Stakes  & the Manfred Stakes at Caulfield both have interesting fields. 

A little bit of trivia or recent history about the above race.

Shakespearean Lass was the winner of the W J Adams in 2016 and ran second in the same race in 2017.

Not only was she a stablemate of the Zephyr but also out of the same broodmare. She was sold to a stud farm shortly after the 2017 race and let's just say the syndicate were pleasantly surpised with the offer.

Sorry for going slightly off topic, I've only browsed quickly through the fields and the one that stands out at the moment Macca is Kopi Luwak in the 5th.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Demon77

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6 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

A little bit of trivia or recent history about the above race.

Shakespearean Lass was the winner of the W J Adams in 2016 and ran second in the same race in 2017.

Not only was she a stablemate of the Zephyr but also out of the same broodmare. She was sold to a stud farm shortly after the 2017 race and let's just say the syndicate were pleasantly surprised with the offer.

Sorry for going slightly off topic, I've only browsed quickly through the fields and the one that stands out at the moment Macca is Kopi Luwak in the 5th.

Kopi Luwak is my 2nd pick D77 but at this stage it's paying around $2 where as Don't Give A Damn is good value at about $4.  I didn't necessarily see it as the standout horse but the race analysis has it as the standout horse.  Both horses have drawn good barriers.  By the way,  Ace High has drawn the No.1 barrier. 

There's a reasonable field in the Scenic Blast Stakes at Ascot later on Saturday.  For me it's more of a trifecta race. 

 

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13 hours ago, Demon77 said:

May well be short Wadda but it's a quality galloper.

 I'm finding the links by Macca quite useful. Ace High had a barrier trial over 900m on the 21st of Jan and finished 5th of 9 by 1.2 lengths.

It states, behind leaders, deeper and held together. It doesn't sound too bad, I might have to try and dig up the replay of that trial.

Trials might not be some people's cup of tea, but they could prove useful if you wanted to follow a horse throughout a preparation.

Yes, im with you D77, wont be far off them i dont think. Hes a High Chapparal and i had a look to see if any of the other prodigies had ever won over 1200. Looks like 1400 by Tivaci in 2012 in The All Aged Stakes is the shortest distance. Doesnt mean he cant set a new record or run a place. Will be interesting. Watch out for Ace high over the Mile to Mile and a half. ...and watch out Winx.

Foaled	Name	Sex	Major Wins
2006	Descarado	g	Caulfield Cup, Caulfield Stakes
2006	Monaco Consul	c	Victoria Derby, Spring Champion Stakes
2006	Redwood	c	Northern Dancer Turf Stakes
2006	Shoot Out	g	Chipping Norton Stakes x2, Australian Derby, George Main Stakes, Randwick Guineas
2006	So You Think	c	Cox Plate x2, Tattersalls Gold Cup x2, Yalumba Stakes, Underwood Stakes, MacKinnon Stakes, Eclipse Stakes, Irish Champion Stakes, Prince of Wales's Stakes
2007	Wigmore Hall	g	Northern Dancer Turf Stakes x2
2008	High Jinx	c	Prix du Cadran
2009	Dundeel	c	Spring Champion Stakes, Australian Derby, Underwood Stakes, ATC Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Rosehill Guineas, Randwick Guineas
2009	Wrote	c	Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf
2010	Altior	g	Supreme Novices' Hurdle, Henry VIII Novices' Chase, Arkle Challenge Trophy
2010	Contributer	c	Chipping Norton Stakes, Ranvet Stakes
2010	Pondarosa Miss	f	Easter Handicap
2010	Toronado	c	Sussex Stakes, Queen Anne Stakes
2011	Fenway	f	Storm Queen Stakes
2011	Lucky Lion	c	Bayerisches Zuchtrennen
2011	Free Eagle	c	Prince of Wales's Stakes
2012	Tivaci	c	All Aged Stakes
2013	Montoya's Secret	f	Vinery Stud Stakes
2014	Ace High	c	Spring Champion Stakes, Victoria Derby
2014	Rekindling	c	Melbourne Cup

Edited February 1, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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17 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yes, im with you D77, wont be far off them i dont think. Hes a High Chapparal and i had a look to see if any of the other prodigies had ever won over 1200. Looks like 1400 by Tivaci in 2012 in The All Aged Stakes is the shortest distance. Doesnt mean he cant set a new record or run a place. Will be interesting. Watch out for Ace high over the Mile to Mile and a half. ...and watch out Winx.

Foaled	Name	Sex	Major Wins
2006	Descarado	g	Caulfield Cup, Caulfield Stakes
2006	Monaco Consul	c	Victoria Derby, Spring Champion Stakes
2006	Redwood	c	Northern Dancer Turf Stakes
2006	Shoot Out	g	Chipping Norton Stakes x2, Australian Derby, George Main Stakes, Randwick Guineas
2006	So You Think	c	Cox Plate x2, Tattersalls Gold Cup x2, Yalumba Stakes, Underwood Stakes, MacKinnon Stakes, Eclipse Stakes, Irish Champion Stakes, Prince of Wales's Stakes
2007	Wigmore Hall	g	Northern Dancer Turf Stakes x2
2008	High Jinx	c	Prix du Cadran
2009	Dundeel	c	Spring Champion Stakes, Australian Derby, Underwood Stakes, ATC Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Rosehill Guineas, Randwick Guineas
2009	Wrote	c	Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf
2010	Altior	g	Supreme Novices' Hurdle, Henry VIII Novices' Chase, Arkle Challenge Trophy
2010	Contributer	c	Chipping Norton Stakes, Ranvet Stakes
2010	Pondarosa Miss	f	Easter Handicap
2010	Toronado	c	Sussex Stakes, Queen Anne Stakes
2011	Fenway	f	Storm Queen Stakes
2011	Lucky Lion	c	Bayerisches Zuchtrennen
2011	Free Eagle	c	Prince of Wales's Stakes
2012	Tivaci	c	All Aged Stakes
2013	Montoya's Secret	f	Vinery Stud Stakes
2014	Ace High	c	Spring Champion Stakes, Victoria Derby
2014	Rekindling	c	Melbourne Cup

Very interesting Wadda. 

I've had a good look at the Expressway and I've determined it's quite a tricky race to find a standout.

Out of the realistic chances according to the market, there are 3 horses with at least 1 start in their current prep.

2- Global Glamour

3- Memes

6- Goodfella 

First-up horses that can win(IMO) listed below.

4- Ace High

5-Trapeze Arrist

8- Addictive Nature

I watched some replays of the fresher horses in their previous prep and some current trials but it's hard to gauge against a horse in a prep already.

Case in point, Maccas thoughts on Goodfella. Yes, the horse is in a decent prep at the moment with some short let-ups in between runs, but the last two runs have been very good behind a quality galloper in Pierata.

Im finding it hard to narrow it down to one standout in this race so maybe a trifecta around Ace High could be the ticket. 

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49 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Very interesting Wadda. 

I've had a good look at the Expressway and I've determined it's quite a tricky race to find a standout.

Out of the realistic chances according to the market, there are 3 horses with at least 1 start in their current prep.

2- Global Glamour

3- Memes

6- Goodfella 

First-up horses that can win(IMO) listed below.

4- Ace High

5-Trapeze Arrist

8- Addictive Nature

I watched some replays of the fresher horses in their previous prep and some current trials but it's hard to gauge against a horse in a prep already.

Case in point, Maccas thoughts on Goodfella. Yes, the horse is in a decent prep at the moment with some short let-ups in between runs, but the last two runs have been very good behind a quality galloper in Pierata.

Im finding it hard to narrow it down to one standout in this race so maybe a trifecta around Ace High could be the ticket. 

Thanks and thats a really interesting list of High Chaparrals. I will be referring back to it from time to time......some top horses there. High Chaparral died in 2014, so there wont be anymore. But the last 2 Ace High and Rekindling may well be amongst the best.

Yes its a hard one and maybe Gai and Bott with home ground advantage hold the key with Global Glamour atm. Had such a good strike rate in the spring, we are going to have to keep an eye on them every damn race now. Because of this they will often be favorites as well tho.

Goodfella has the odds tho, i like it as well. I think your assessment is pretty good.

Edited February 1, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

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15 hours ago, Macca said:

I'm in 2 minds with the Expressway Stakes ... I keep looking at Ace High thinking it will fight it right out to the finish and Goodfella could be flashing home.  As a trifecta race - definitely.  Best Bet - maybe someone else can see the horse to pick. 

I like a few others at Rosehill but again,  it's early doors and would like to see all the fixed odds.  I'm looking at 1 best bet out of these 4 possible picks ... I'm leaning towards 'Don't Give A Damn.  Let me know what you think fellas. 

Race 1  No.2  ... From Within

Race 5  No.12 ... Kopi Luwak

Race 6  No.9 ..... Bye See

Race 9  No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn

All the Rosehill Races - Feb 3rd

The W J Adams Stakes & the Manfred Stakes at Caulfield both have interesting fields. 

Havent had a look at Caulfield yet, but the Sydney races seem hard. Any idea on the track atm? Hopefully we dont get those dreadful tracks like we did when it was raining for weeks on end. Really ruined it.

Dont mind R6 N9 Bye See.....3 runs in, place last start. (the old rule i mentioned)....remember......

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7 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Havent had a look at Caulfield yet, but the Sydney races seem hard. Any idea on the track atm? Hopefully we dont get those dreadful tracks like we did when it was raining for weeks on end. Really ruined it.

Dont mind R6 N9 Bye See.....3 runs in, place last start. (the old rule i mentioned)....remember......

My way of finding a standout horse (whether it works or not is highly questionable Wadda )  is to first of all work from the bottomweight up (or the last horse listed in any given field)  And I usually only ever look at Group Races/Listed Races. 

I then start grading the horses as follows ...

N ........ No

MP ..... Maybe a Place

P ........ Place

PW ..... Should Place,  Might Win

WP  .... Can Win,  At least a Place

W ....... Should Win

I tried it with a number of the Rosehill Races and then thought I'd throw a few picks out there to see what others thought.  It gets tough finding a standout when I start finding multiple horses that should win! 

My best bet won't be coming from the Expressway Stakes or from Caulfield.  Will probably do a few Tri's in the Manfred Stakes & The W J Adams Stakes though (as well as the Expressway Stakes)

With regards to my initial picks at Rosehill I marked 'Don't Give A Damn' & 'Kopi Luwak' on top then 'Bye See'  then 'From Within' ... and they've predicted a bit of rain for Sydney on Saturday too (clearing up as the day goes on)  Right now the track is a Good 4.

Edited February 1, 2018 by Macca

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10 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Very interesting Wadda. 

I've had a good look at the Expressway and I've determined it's quite a tricky race to find a standout.

Out of the realistic chances according to the market, there are 3 horses with at least 1 start in their current prep.

2- Global Glamour

3- Memes

6- Goodfella 

First-up horses that can win(IMO) listed below.

4- Ace High

5-Trapeze Arrist

8- Addictive Nature

I watched some replays of the fresher horses in their previous prep and some current trials but it's hard to gauge against a horse in a prep already.

Case in point, Maccas thoughts on Goodfella. Yes, the horse is in a decent prep at the moment with some short let-ups in between runs, but the last two runs have been very good behind a quality galloper in Pierata.

Im finding it hard to narrow it down to one standout in this race so maybe a trifecta around Ace High could be the ticket. 

In the Expressway Stakes I found 5 or 6 horses out the 8 horse field that can win (the same 6 horses that you mentioned)

Looking forward to the race though D77 - the race might paint a bit of a picture for a number of the runners down the track.  Being 1200m at WFA opens up a number of future possibilities.  The C F Orr Stakes works in a similar manner (more so the upcoming 1600m & 2000m Group races in the Autumn calendar) 

The smaller quality fields are often really hard to decipher ... and that's why the trifecta can still pay $250 or more.  The First 4 the same. 

It's interesting the things one gets told that gets remembered ... for instance,  pure WFA horses that drop back to the handicap races or Group 3 or Listed races.  Those 7th & 8th placings being 2 or 3 lengths off the winner in WFA races can therefore read as good form. 

As an example,  you picked up on a former Group runner in 'Lite'n in My Veins' in one of the Zephyr races (it ran 2nd)  Burning Front was another example a few weeks back (when it won)

Edited February 1, 2018 by Macca

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1 hour ago, Macca said:

Looking forward to the race though D77 - the race might paint a bit of a picture for a number of the runners down the track.  Being 1200m at WFA opens up a number of future possibilities.  The C F Orr Stakes works in a similar manner (more so the upcoming 1600m & 2000m Group races in the Autumn calendar) 

It's amazing how sometimes a small field makes a race more intriguing, add Ace High first-up and it becomes even more so. Should be a beauty. 

Spot on with the above Macca, we know some horses go well first-up whilst others just go around for a "run" to begin a prep. Planning is key to these big carnivals, needless to say there's a lot of prize money to be won.

Just out of curiosity I visited the Tab app, the 4 horses you narrowed it down to for your best bet.....

 

Race 1  No.2  ... From Within

Race 5  No.12 ... Kopi Luwak

Race 6  No.9 ..... Bye See

Race 9  No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn

combined price for an all up multi (win)

$124.67

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Demon77 said:

It's amazing how sometimes a small field makes a race more intriguing, add Ace High first-up and it becomes even more so. Should be a beauty. 

Spot on with the above Macca, we know some horses go well first-up whilst others just go around for a "run" to begin a prep. Planning is key to these big carnivals, needless to say there's a lot of prize money to be won.

Just out of curiosity I visited the Tab app, the 4 horses you narrowed it down to for your best bet.....

 

Race 1  No.2  .... From Within

Race 5  No.12 ... Kopi Luwak

Race 6  No.9 ..... Bye See

Race 9  No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn

combined price for an all up multi (win)

$124.67

Gee it adds up doesn't it?

Had a look at Caulfield tonight and there's a few there that might stand out.  But I'm more interested in others thoughts with that meeting.

'Don't Give A Damn'  was very impressive last time it ran and ran a slick time over the 1400m (1:21.86)  But the Trainer (Danny Williams) says the horse is looking for a mile (it could be set for a Doncaster Mile run)

I do like it over the 1300m this time around though (against this lot) - and it has drawn well for a horse that will be ridden forward.  'Bye See' is probably my 2nd pick now over 'Kopi Lewak'. 

I'll probably put my best bet in tomorrow night. 

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I've looked at the Caulfield meeting tonight and decided my best bet is at that meeting.

Race 5  No. 12 -  Eurack.   Odds $3.40

3 runs for 3 wins. All runs so far have been in winter and on soft tracks. I remember watching  those runs and being impressed.

First start at Bendigo Maiden 1100m Heavy8 drew barrier 9 of 10 and won by 3.5L. (1:05:96)

Second start at Sandown BM 64 1000m Soft6 drew 15 of 15 and won by 4.25L. (0:58:77)

Third start Sandown 1000m BM 70 Soft5 barrier 9 of 11 and won by 0.2L. (0:57:49)

Barrier 7 shouldn't be a concern as she has sufficient speed to get in the first 3 or 4. 

She progressed through the grades nicely and this will be her toughest test to date. Her fitness levels might not be full yet but if you look at her times they are nothing but impressive, keep in mind the soft and heavy tracks. Her latest time is quicker than some of the 1000m races her rivals for Saturdays race have been competing in on good tracks.

The deciding factor to put her as my "Best" was the lightning 33.15 she clicked for the last 600m in her last run. She has a lethal letdown.

Of her upcoming rivals No.3 Hay Bale ran a quicker 32.34 last 600m in a win back in July but that was on a Good3.

No.5 Highland Beat ran a slower 33.39 on a Good3 also in a win back in July.

Even comparing it to the last 600m(33.16) that Snitty Kitty (I think she wins the WJ Adams by the way)  ran in her G2 Caulfield Sprint win back in the spring on a Good3 makes me think she might be above average by the time she fully develops.

Looking forward to your "Best" fellas.

Edited February 1, 2018 by Demon77