The combined Jaeger O'Meara and Dion Prestia Thread

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On 10/12/2015 at 8:10 AM, Ron Burgundy said:

The one thing this last trade and draft period confirmed is that this club is no longer amateur and ad hoc in its decision making. It is super deliberate and has a clear strategy that it now actually seems able to execute.

If we are still after Prestia, and if we have been for quite some time, I expect the club has devised a plan/proposal to attempt to secure him. If not, perhaps we have not been that into him (too exy in terms of cash or draft picks etc), despite the media reports.

agree

On 11/12/2015 at 11:40 AM, It's Time said:

I can't help but wonder if there were any discussions with GC during this year's trading of picks about setting up potential deals for Prestia next year. They already have our first pick in next year's draft. 

I think so to.

On 13/12/2015 at 10:45 PM, ILLDieADemon said:

This will be a massive lose for GC.

Will the AFL allow this to happen to their baby? 

not so much, necessarily.   I'm of the opinion that the AFL are hands on via Eade,  & know what their issues are 'culture wise',,,  the mistakes they made,  &  that IMO they need fresh blood, young players in-effected by the existing culture of party-time...  I expect more GCS players to go in 2016.

so IMO the existing leaders need to be shed,,,  so the current crop of required players still there, carry no favour from new leaders. 

I think Gablettjnr stays for marketing reasons.

So i expect the suns will be looking to mature leadership players next pre-season.   I wonder what Jobe will be doing next?

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We've officially arrived as a club if we can trade in Prestia while re-signing Hogan and Tyson on long term deals in 2016.

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Demon supporters wouldn't like it if there are rumours about our young players going to another club next year or the year after. What is wrong with young people who get picked up by interstate club with the view of pissing off when their cotract is up? Perhaps they miss their mummies!!!!. Going to another club doesn't always guarantee them getting a game and with more young talent available each year compitition for spots become more difficult. Milking clubs like GWS,GOLD COAST and BRISBANE will not produce a truly national comp,Rugby will be the biggest winner. Someone said that GWS still have a lot of good talent,this may be so however injuries to key players will hurt them dearly. 

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8 hours ago, ENYAW said:

Demon supporters wouldn't like it if there are rumours about our young players going to another club next year or the year after. What is wrong with young people who get picked up by interstate club with the view of pissing off when their cotract is up? Perhaps they miss their mummies!!!!. Going to another club doesn't always guarantee them getting a game and with more young talent available each year compitition for spots become more difficult. Milking clubs like GWS,GOLD COAST and BRISBANE will not produce a truly national comp,Rugby will be the biggest winner. Someone said that GWS still have a lot of good talent,this may be so however injuries to key players will hurt them dearly. 

I doubt and hope that the MFC would not be considering this when deciding which players to target. That is the AFL's problem to solve, not ours. 

 

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13 hours ago, ENYAW said:

Demon supporters wouldn't like it if there are rumours about our young players going to another club next year or the year after. What is wrong with young people who get picked up by interstate club with the view of pissing off when their cotract is up? Perhaps they miss their mummies!!!!. Going to another club doesn't always guarantee them getting a game and with more young talent available each year compitition for spots become more difficult. Milking clubs like GWS,GOLD COAST and BRISBANE will not produce a truly national comp,Rugby will be the biggest winner. Someone said that GWS still have a lot of good talent,this may be so however injuries to key players will hurt them dearly. 

 " Academy Picks".

Edited December 19, 2015 by Redleg

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On 18/12/2015 at 3:31 AM, ENYAW said:

Demon supporters wouldn't like it if there are rumours about our young players going to another club next year or the year after. What is wrong with young people who get picked up by interstate club with the view of pissing off when their cotract is up? Perhaps they miss their mummies!!!!. Going to another club doesn't always guarantee them getting a game and with more young talent available each year compitition for spots become more difficult. Milking clubs like GWS,GOLD COAST and BRISBANE will not produce a truly national comp,Rugby will be the biggest winner. Someone said that GWS still have a lot of good talent,this may be so however injuries to key players will hurt them dearly. 

I think that is why the academies are vital. There is a lot of undiscovered talent in rural NSW and QLD. As much as it can be a disadvantage to have Vic draftees return home after their contract is up - there is also an opportunity for interstate clubs to develop their own talent through the academy system. But regardless, the emphasis for AFL clubs should be to get their environment rights, making their club a desired destination to play football at. PJ spoke of this in his early days at the club.

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On 18 December 2015 at 10:31 PM, ENYAW said:

Demon supporters wouldn't like it if there are rumours about our young players going to another club next year or the year after. What is wrong with young people who get picked up by interstate club with the view of pissing off when their cotract is up? Perhaps they miss their mummies!!!!. Going to another club doesn't always guarantee them getting a game and with more young talent available each year compitition for spots become more difficult. Milking clubs like GWS,GOLD COAST and BRISBANE will not produce a truly national comp,Rugby will be the biggest winner. Someone said that GWS still have a lot of good talent,this may be so however injuries to key players will hurt them dearly. 

So the young man that's followed lions is 25 years old and seen 3 flags? [censored] the franchise clubs I wanna c a flag I'm approaching my 4 th decade I deserve that as well , the only clubs that got milked are small Victorian clubs.

Edited December 20, 2015 by Middymalt

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23 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

I think that is why the academies are vital. There is a lot of undiscovered talent in rural NSW and QLD. As much as it can be a disadvantage to have Vic draftees return home after their contract is up - there is also an opportunity for interstate clubs to develop their own talent through the academy system. But regardless, the emphasis for AFL clubs should be to get their environment rights, making their club a desired destination to play football at. PJ spoke of this in his early days at the club.

So they get FS and academy players that's a fair system for them

Edited December 20, 2015 by Middymalt

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On 9 December 2015 at 8:39 AM, stuie said:

What state is that located in again kid?......

This is why respected people barely post here anymore 

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19 hours ago, Middymalt said:

So they get FS and academy players that's a fair system for them

Part of the reasoning behind academy selections is the incentive for rural NSW and QLD players to participate in the sport. Without the academies, these players would be going to NRL, or no where at all. For the capacity of NSW, there should be more talent coming out of that state, if the academies can help that - then good. This isn't about what favors one side over another (with academies) - it is about what is best for the AFL as a whole. It is best if we can get more talent flowing in NSW/QLD.

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On 10 December 2015 at 1:30 PM, Grand New Flag said:

The club is all over Prestia and is quietly confident. The fact we traded out next seasons 1st round pick is of little consequence. We can trade 2017 first round for a start.  If Prestia says he wants to be traded to Melbourne, he will be a Dee in 2017.  Our performance this season is very important for Prestia and perhaps Hogan, but I also hear that contract negotiations for Hogan are going very well and he could be signed to a mega deal before round 1. Fingers crossed!!

My mail is GC or Demons it's a two horse race like paddy and his mum is desperate for him to come home 

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5 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Part of the reasoning behind academy selections is the incentive for rural NSW and QLD players to participate in the sport. Without the academies, these players would be going to NRL, or no where at all. For the capacity of NSW, there should be more talent coming out of that state, if the academies can help that - then good. This isn't about what favors one side over another (with academies) - it is about what is best for the AFL as a whole. It is best if we can get more talent flowing in NSW/QLD.

What's best for the AFL is not having 45 year old men sitting at the G with there kids that have never tasted flag glory , you can spin it however you please but apart from freo and the 2 new plastic clubs there supporters have tasted what we havnt I travel most weeks from tooradin with my 4 kids to the G yeah it's expensive but we love it and we deserve success and people like Oakley that other idiot from Adelaide and the Greek have done everything in there power to deny us that opportunity that everyone deserves, if they want academy players they should lose there rights to FS.

Edited December 20, 2015 by Middymalt

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19 hours ago, Middymalt said:

What's best for the AFL is not having 45 year old men sitting at the G with there kids that have never tasted flag glory , you can spin it however you please but apart from freo and the 2 new plastic clubs there supporters have tasted what we havnt

Well, from the AFL's perspective, they should be looking to take over Australia - hence the reasoning behind GWS, GC, and the academies come with that. Whether You/me agree with it or not, the AFL is now a business, and it is looking to branch out. Whether some sides have tasted success it irrelevant to the AFL, they are clearly playing the long game, its a big play, but necessary. Its quite simple IMO, we shouldn't look at Vic as the be all and end all for talent. The academies are absolutely vital for the game.

Edited December 20, 2015 by KingDingAling

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34 minutes ago, Middymalt said:

My mail is GC or Demons it's a two horse race like paddy and his mum is desperate for him to come home 

Fingers crossed we finally have our break out year and the stars finally align....we deserve some top end talent to want to come to us.

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Middmalt sir/madam/? I have been a demon supporter for well over 50 yrs,we have ourselves to blame for the lack of success.Deduct premierships by Brisbane,Adelaide,West Coast,Sydney and Port Ad that gives us a chance to win 39 out of 50 premierships. How many has the Hawks won,about 11. We rejected Poly Farmer and Darryl Baldock who became legends for their respective clubs,the reasons go on and on. We recruit Neeld as coach,he purchased players who were passed their use by dates,the junior talent is pathetic compared with the recent and now recruits. Sylvia in the pass seemed to hold the club to ransom,yet Roos wasn't having any of that.

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8 hours ago, Middymalt said:

This is why respected people barely post here anymore 

Geez you can be thick. So many posters here in a rush and tripping over themselves to have a crack at another poster that they fail to recognize even the most obvious sarcasm.

 

Bravo Middy, bravo...

 

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On 20/12/2015 at 9:23 PM, stuie said:

Geez you can be thick. So many posters here in a rush and tripping over themselves to have a crack at another poster that they fail to recognize even the most obvious sarcasm.

 

Bravo Middy, bravo...

 

 

Nah, Stu. He's right. Every thread you post in becomes some sort of game where you have to run away with all the prizes. It's boring. Nobody wants to have to wade through page after page of you having to be 100% correct on every single point of every subjective internet discussion.

 

That said... I'm not sure we'll get either unless we have a break out year and figure out some trade magic like we did this year. I'm not ruling out some sort of WTF? how did we get that moment, but it will take both of those conditions being met.

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7 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

 

Nah, Stu. He's right. Every thread you post in becomes some sort of game where you have to run away with all the prizes. It's boring. Nobody wants to have to wade through page after page of you having to be 100% correct on every single point of every subjective internet discussion.

 

That said... I'm not sure we'll get either unless we have a break out year and figure out some trade magic like we did this year. I'm not ruling out some sort of WTF? how did we get that moment, but it will take both of those conditions being met.

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And there it is.

Don't think for a moment that I think what I said will make a difference to you. But it needs to be said. By all of us. You are a pain in the arse that ruins almost every good thing around here, You aren't alone, but you do make the top three. People come here to read and talk about football, not to see Stuie up on the bar, pants around his ankles, telling everyone what a figjam he is.

 

Anyway... floor is yours. Gif or sarcasm or troll away. I'd prefer go away, but do what ya gotta do, bud

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Just now, Uncle Fester said:

And there it is.

Don't think for a moment that I think what I said will make a difference to you. But it needs to be said. By all of us. You are a pain in the arse that ruins almost every good thing around here, You aren't alone, but you do make the top three. People come here to read and talk about football, not to see Stuie up on the bar, pants around his ankles, telling everyone what a figjam he is.

 

Anyway... floor is yours. Gif or sarcasm or troll away. I'd prefer go away, but do what ya gotta do, bud

I hope you can see the irony in you using post after post to have a big personal go at me purely because another poster missed the sarcasm in a post.

 

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On 19/12/2015 at 1:20 PM, KingDingAling said:

Part of the reasoning behind academy selections is the incentive for rural NSW and QLD players to participate in the sport. Without the academies, these players would be going to NRL, or no where at all. For the capacity of NSW, there should be more talent coming out of that state, if the academies can help that - then good. This isn't about what favors one side over another (with academies) - it is about what is best for the AFL as a whole. It is best if we can get more talent flowing in NSW/QLD.

That's great and so are the academies - doesn't explain why some clubs should get priority pick access to them though.

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On 12/16/2015 at 1:53 AM, MrReims said:

I think is incorrect, rock solid yes, best midfielder no.

Would love to know who'd be better. Playing 22 games, the bloke is one of the best clearance players in the comp. We're kidding ourselves if we think Viney, Jones or Tyson or even Vince are likely to do better.

On 12/18/2015 at 10:06 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We've officially arrived as a club if we can trade in Prestia while re-signing Hogan and Tyson on long term deals in 2016.

If we can play in a finals series, then we've arrived again as a club.

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Dion Prestia has been appointed as one of three joint vice-captains at the Gold Coast Suns - Top 10 for Suns as they expand leaders' group 

 

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A 10 man leadership group? Really? 

Speaks volumes about Ablett's off-field leadership up there.

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20 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

A 10 man leadership group? Really? 

Speaks volumes about Ablett's off-field leadership up there.

Holding on by a thread that club

nothing lasts on the Gold Coast

The AFL will continue to pour $$ down its throat but only because of the broadcast rights

Victorian clubs must always be circling this soulless franchaise...