Some serious questions asked about Paul Roos ...

[Sir Why You Little 34,405]

Robo on 360 just mentioned there's more to come on the Dees in tomorrow's HS and that some parts of the MFC weren't happy with Roosy comments last night.

Can we just play some [censored] consistent hard footy for 4 quarters and get rid of all this shitz.

Please for the love of god Melb show something, do something on the field please.

Well those are the people who are the first out the door....Simple.

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

Oops! Oops!

Roos is doing some real back peddling. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/negativity-comes-from-melbourne-fans-not-club-coach-paul-roos-20150825-gj7jt6.html

He says his reference on 360 to a 'veil of negativity' was about fans being negative and not to players or the club!

I had to go back and read that several times. Jackson went to bat for him and said Roos comments were badly worded!

It sure sound to me like the comments were directed at the club. Now Roos has offered to address staff to reassure his comments weren't directed at them!

So Paul, it was all about us, the fans!!

Damn it!! If we the fans are negative we have every bloody right to be so.

You have been here 5 minutes but we have had decades of this [censored] so don't tell us we are being negative.

On 360 you said being questioned about your commitment and hurt was offensive.

This morning I stuck up for you and said you had every right to feel offended.

I was wrong to stick up for you.

Because, I find your criticisms of us loyal, long suffering, membership paying fans as very very offensive.

Don't bother asking for my membership next year if that is what the Club thinks of us!

Edited August 25, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[Trisul 636]

Game plan? Loose man? Advanced tactics?

Why allow the easy outs (if they could even be executed) when the basics required would, should, level the contest?

We'll get beyond that magical number of outs (30, that was previously reverse prophesied) by the end of this season.

Once the list proves to the coaches that they are capable of consistent games of contested football then, and only then, will the coaches allow the outs as needed and not after repeated failures at the basics.

[What 18,810]

The sky is falling

It now feels like the MFC again .... 18 months of stability would have to have been be a club record though, was a good effort !

[TGR 1,367]

So Paul, it was all about us, the fans!!

Damn it!! If we the fans are negative we have every bloody right to be so.

You have been here 5 minutes but we have had decades of this [censored] so don't tell us we are being negative.

Exactly what Roos is saying. Judge him over the 5 minutes he has been here; and not the 5 decades you have been hurting.

I agree with him 100% about us supporters who can't see the big picture; who get over-excited by a win; and over-deflated about a loss or two.

Emotional, subjective and irrational.

[dazzledavey36 48,637]

He is right. Go back to the post game report against Brisbane and its full of the same usual 'stains' on here who write nothing but negative trash.

We win a game and people still not satisfied.

[rjay 23,849]

Well those are the people who are the first out the door....Simple.

Totally with you on this 'SWYL' but knowing Robbo he's been doing some ringing around to some of the ex's to get some traction on his article. A bit like the Magner thing but he found someone to open his mouth this time, not someone as smart as Magna.

My bet is it's an ex director who wants to feel some love after trashing the club in the first place.

[Sir Why You Little 34,405]

Totally with you on this 'SWYL' but knowing Robbo he's been doing some ringing around to some of the ex's to get some traction on his article. A bit like the Magner thing but he found someone to open his mouth this time, not someone as smart as Magna.

My bet is it's an ex director who wants to feel some love after trashing the club in the first place.

Let us see. Roosy was bought in to do a job because others failed

Stand aside

[TGR 1,367]

No wonder some clubs are coach-killing machines. Subjective, emotional, irrational supporters make boards very nervous. Weak boards act as a result of the restless natives.

[TGR 1,367]

He is right. Go back to the post game report against Brisbane and its full of the same usual 'stains' on here who write nothing but negative trash.

We win a game and people still not satisfied.

Exactly. They probably prefer the scintillating footy we were playing under Neeldy.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

Exactly. They probably prefer the scintillating footy we were playing under Neeldy.

There's a difference?

[rjay 23,849]

IF, if, if, if. No wonder we are all labelled keyboard warriors.

Put yours on the line now.

I say Bolton will fail unquestionably. He impressed me at the coaches conference, but he is assistant coach material full stop.

If MFC supporters are questioning Roos after 19 months, then I say good luck to Mr. Nitrous Oxide.

pTGR

I think you are right re Bolton, the wrong appointment.

They already burned Wayne Brittain, another who hadn't played at the highest level. It shouldn't matter but it does in AFL and particularly with a club like Carlton.

We needed a circuit breaker and Roos is that for us...he will keep taking the heat and set things up for Goodwin. A new coach would be mince meat for the media.

Look at how that 2 faced beeaa....Robbo is with Roos, so respectful as he says to his face then the weasel goes around trying to dig dirt behind the scenes.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

He is right. Go back to the post game report against Brisbane and its full of the same usual 'stains' on here who write nothing but negative trash.

We win a game and people still not satisfied.

That win was as good as a loss.

[Chris 2,892]

I agree with Roosy. One look through here will show you how negative we are. There is a difference between constructive criticism and emotive negative crap. Both make a difference but only one can be positive.

[Go the Biff 3,124]

Let us see. Roosy was bought in to do a job because others failed

Stand aside

Roos and Jackson. This is a whole of club rebuild. If supporters want to pin the failings of the last decade (or 50 years) on the results we've had this season then there's no reasoning with them. If a couple of board or staff members can't cope with hearing the truth - [censored] off and let someone with an appreciation for what the job entails do it. There IS an air of negativity about the club. Use this joint or Demonology after a loss - or even BEFORE a game. FMD, anyone talking to a fellow Demon fan isn't dwelling on the thrills of '87. They are talking about the shite that we are in now. It is negative. We have been worse than anyone since University, But we are slowly turning it around and we need to stay the course

No wonder some clubs are coach-killing machines. Subjective, emotional, irrational supporters make boards very nervous. Weak boards act as a result of the restless natives.

Because when it comes to their footy teams most supporters have the attention span of a goldfish. After we beat Collingwood we had people on here suggesting finals were a chance. A week later the same people wanted to sack everyone

The Leigh Mathews rule "things are never as good as they seem and they are never as bad as they seem" should be used a bit more often

Exactly. They probably prefer the scintillating footy we were playing under Neeldy.

I record every game. Watch them all usually at least twice. I delete the losses. You can only learn so much from them. I've kept our wins this year. And the reason for that is so I can remind myself of what we're trying to get to and where the incremental steps along that path have occurred. Sure we are going to have days like Sunday, far more than we'd like - our team is still far from the finished article - but we are gong to get there. And we are not as far away as many seem to think

I can replay those wins and watch our ball movement and I don't reckon I'm going to have a problem with the game plan

And your reference to the scintillating footy we were playing under Neeldy is timely. Every now & then we supporters should go back & watch the first two games of his tenure. That's how freakin' far Jackson & Roos have had to drag us

[dazzledavey36 48,637]

That win was as good as a loss.

But who cares..? take it and move on to next week.

[Jaded No More 57,610]

What I don't get is how supporter negativity impacts our players ability to kick, handball, spread and tackle?!

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

He is right. Go back to the post game report against Brisbane and its full of the same usual 'stains' on here who write nothing but negative trash.

We win a game and people still not satisfied.

And you are the biggest stain of all who writes "negative trash" 90% of the time....look at how you turn on your fellow demonlanders as soon as somebody has a go at our supporters...

Do you think that referring to others as "stains" is a positive or negative thing to say???

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

What I don't get is how supporter negativity impacts our players ability to kick, handball, spread and tackle?!

Supporter negativity is based on the teams performance, we are an intelligent supporter group, most of us....sort of...educated and with most of our teeth in tact...I don't think we are being irrational by being negative or upsets with the teams performances since round 14 apart from the Collingwood game..

[Willmoy1947 3,759]

The other thing is that half the bloody media rags just wait for an opportunity to take their piece of meat from this site and the supporters because we

kick shite out of their beloved Bombers and have been for the last two plus years.

There will be retribution come that day!!!!

[dazzledavey36 48,637]

And you are the biggest stain of all who writes "negative trash" 90% of the time....look at how you turn on your fellow demonlanders as soon as somebody has a go at our supporters...

Do you think that referring to others as "stains" is a positive or negative thing to say???

Yea care factor zero mate..

Move along

Edited August 25, 2015 by dazzledavey36

[old dee 22,805]

What I don't get is how supporter negativity impacts our players ability to kick, handball, spread and tackle?!

I struggle with the concept as well Jaded.

[titan_uranus 22,218]

What I don't get is how supporter negativity impacts our players ability to kick, handball, spread and tackle?!

The point he's trying to make is that, if we've become so inherently pessimistic, maybe the players have too.

Maybe the players go into games against Carlton thinking in the back of their minds 'we're going to lose this', just like a lot of us do.

And that kind of mindset begins to spill over into doing selfish things (getting kicks out the back of packs or running past the mark to get a cheap handball received) instead of team things (like tackling and spreading).

[chook fowler 18,170]

This is the first time I have uttered a word in criticism of Roos but I think it is a bit rich to turn on the supporter base in the light of the performance against Carlton.

He stands alone in not condemning the attitude and application of the players. All commentators were rightly disparaging of our efforts.

Unfortunately I don't like the way this is shaping up. The supporters who still remain deserve better than what was on offer on Sunday and I can't see what is to be gained by alienating the heart and soul of the club.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

This is the first time I have uttered a word in criticism of Roos but I think it is a bit rich to turn on the supporter base in the light of the performance against Carlton.

He stands alone in not condemning the attitude and application of the players. All commentators were rightly disparaging of our efforts.

Unfortunately I don't like the way this is shaping up. The supporters who still remain deserve better than what was on offer on Sunday and I can't see what is to be gained by alienating the heart and soul of the club.

He's completely right though -we ARE an incredibly negative bunch and it is worth considering that possibly in some way this negatively affects the team

Clearly we have every right to be negative, and Roos is not saying we don't, he's just pointing it out