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Due to the fact that we have had issues during peak times for the site we have had to up the specs on our dedicated server and as a result it is costing us $150 a month up from $90. In addition we have bi-yearly forum software costs which include much needed tech support as well as other associated costs. These costs are all mounting and it is all coming out of my own pocket. This cannot be sustained for much longer and as a result we might see the end of this site in the not too distant future.

Many Demonlanders have generously assisted over the past few years and those generous donations have been much appreciated. However, this just isn't enough to sustained the ongoing costs.

If you love using Demonland to talk about the Dees with fellow tragics then the best way for you to help is to take out a Demonland.com membership/subscription. You can either take out a one off annual membership which entitles you to a year of Demonland minus the annoying advertising on the site. You also get access to the mobile skin for viewing the site nicely on your smartphone. Or you can contribute a little bit more and take out a Lifetime membership which offers you the same as the annual membership but for life.

If you have already taken out a Demonland subscription and want to continue to help contribute to keeping this site running then you can always donate to us here - http://demonland.com...ex.php?/donate/

The costs for a Demonland.com membership is as follows:

Annual Demonland.com membership is $30 per year (1 year subscription of Demonland.com without advertisements. Also includes access to the Mobile Skin for Smartphones).

Lifetime Demonland.com membership is $70 for life (Lifetime subscription to Demonland.com without advertisements. Also includes access to the Mobile Skin for Smartphones).

You can subscribe by clicking the Subscription tab under the main Demonland logo at the top of the page next to the Home tab and follow the prompts through to PayPal.

Or simply click this link - http://demonland.com.../subscriptions/

The mobile skin looks like this on your smartphone:

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It's easier to read on a smartphone than the full site so if you do the majority of your reading of Demonland on your phone then the mobile skin is great. The software does of course recognise the device you are using so if you have a subscription but are viewing on your PC or iPad then it will display the full site. If you are viewing on your iPhone then it will display the mobile skin. If you are viewing the mobile skin on your phone and you want to view the full site there is a convenient button at the bottom and top of the page that allows you to switch back to the full site.

Also, in addition to access to the mobile skin the subscriptions remove the advertising on the site to give you a better viewing experience of the site on your PC or MAC.

Here is a screenshot of the site with ads:

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Here is a screenshot of the site with No Ads:

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We also have a Work Friendly skin for those users who browse the site at work and would like it to blend in a little better than the red and blue theme of the normal site skin. The Work Friendly skin is sure to fool your boss and work colleagues into thinking that you are working and not goofing off on Demonland. This is an added benefit for those that sign up as Annual or Lifetime Member.

Here is what the Work Friendly skin looks like:

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All proceeds from subscriptions go towards paying for the site costs and periodically if there is anything left in the kitty I throw some of it Nasher's way for the amazing job he does in keeping the site's backend running smoothly or I will donate it back to the club.

So if you want to help us out then there is a way to do so as well as getting something back in return.

I would be loathed to have to shut down this site but I just cannot continue to support it on my own.

Thank you.

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Have you asked assistance from the MFC do they have a server or anything they can help with (I'm not tech savey) maybe memberships subscriptions could slightly increase and they can make a small amount? I don't post a lot but I read this forum everyday and love it would be a massive loss I took out the lifetime membership but maybe another option coukd be to charge all users a small fee per year once paid can log in??

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We have a lot of members.

I really enjoy Demonland

It is the major reason I am still a MFC member.

Just hit my kick for an extra donation.

If we all put in $20 I am sure the problem will be fixed.

Lets get going.

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What is currently Demonland's primary source of revenue? Is it ads? Donations?

My wallet. ;)

Donations and Subscriptions are probably the main source. Ads generate some revenue but we cannot rely on it.

Thank you to those who have and who will donate.

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I might buy shares in ology right now.

BTW, why not merge? Or fields take over ology.

Fanbob should be able to explain the economies of scale to us with no keynsian knowledge.

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My wallet. ;)

Donations and Subscriptions are probably the main source. Ads generate some revenue but we cannot rely on it.

Thank you to those who have and who will donate.

Maybe you could come to an agreement with the club and advertise the MFC sponsors (New Balance/AHG etc.) on the site and in return the club gives say $50/100 a month.

Love your work Demonland, Nasher and all the others

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Can I suggest you up the Lifetime Membership to a nice round $100, and then all previously subscribed members with Lifetime memberships could treat the $40 difference as a donation. Just a thought. When you think about it, $40 is really just a few cups of coffee, so shouldn't hurt too many.

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My wallet. ;)

Donations and Subscriptions are probably the main source. Ads generate some revenue but we cannot rely on it.

Thank you to those who have and who will donate.

Can you please tell me

How many members do we have ( approx )?

How many are paid up?

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We have a lot of members.

I really enjoy Demonland

It is the major reason I am still a MFC member.

Just hit my kick for an extra donation.

If we all put in $20 I am sure the problem will be fixed.

Lets get going.

on the donate page there isn't a $20 but there is a $25

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Sorry PJ and others I paid $25.

My mistake you are correct

All good, I didn't mean that +1 as in one point to me.

Meant to be that I liked what you said and also donated the same amount as you. Trying to get the ball rolling! Someone plus two!

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All good, I didn't mean that +1 as in one point to me.

Meant to be that I liked what you said and also donated the same amount as you. Trying to get the ball rolling! Someone plus two!

No Problem PJ I think my fingers got a little ahead of my brain.

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I took out lifetime membership the very first time this situation arose. I'd have no problem with that "lifetime" membership finishing at (say) the end of June next year and then everyone who wants to view the site having to pay a (say) $15 annual membership.

Without the details of costs I don't know if this would work but a regular annual income seems so much more sensible than a "once" off membership that provides nothing in future.

Also is there some way of limiting access to the site for "guests"?

Anyway, food for thought.

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I took out lifetime membership the very first time this situation arose. I'd have no problem with that "lifetime" membership finishing at (say) the end of June next year and then everyone who wants to view the site having to pay a (say) $15 annual membership.

Without the details of costs I don't know if this would work but a regular annual income seems so much more sensible than a "once" off membership that provides nothing in future.

Also is there some way of limiting access to the site for "guests"?

Anyway, food for thought.

There is a way to limit the access to the site for guests but that can create it's own problems with new "blood" getting to the site and I don't want to exclude people because they can't afford it. I really don't want people to have to pay to access the site. The donations and subscriptions are just ways that the regulars can help out.

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