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  • Argue the points of discussion, not the people involved in the discussion
  • Avoid meaningless one word topics or posts
  • Avoid racial, political or religious abuse in discussions.

    This forum is about the Melbourne Football Club, not about the parties, race or religious affiliation of players, staff and/or fans.

Code Of Conduct

The Demonland Code of Conduct covers all matters relating to the posting of messages on DEMONLAND Forums. The Code of Conduct is not designed to be a negative "don't do this, don't do that" statement, but rather a guide for which all members of Demonland abide by, in the interests of the well being of the Forum.

Demonland encourages its members to put forth their opinion, but in doing so asks all members to be considerate of other people's opinions. Football brings about high emotions, and members will have differing opinions over a variety of issues. In order to allow all people to have their say and debate to take place in a sensible manner, Demonland asks all its members to keep a cool head and remember that above all we all support the same team, and all want to see that team succeed.

With regard to posts on the Demonland Forums, the Demonland Administrators and Moderators reserve the right to edit and/or remove posts that are considered to be:

  • Acts of personal abuse
  • Acts of racial, political or religious abuse
  • Slanderous
  • Indecent
  • Knowingly false or misleading
  • Seeking to derail a particular thread for purposes deemed inappropriate by Demonland Administrators and Moderators
  • Any other matter deemed inappropriate
  • Articles from newspapers, afl.com.au, sportal.com.au* must not be copied and pasted in full on Demonland.com. Members who paste full afl.com.au, Sportal articles etc. will be warned by Moderators and potentially be prosecuted under Copyright laws.
  • Advertising posts made in the name of commercial interests may be removed by the Moderators at their sole discretion.
  • Spamming and Flaming is also strongly discouraged, be it via the Forum of via the PM Service.
  • Posters that continue to flaunt the Code of Conduct regarding these issues will receive warnings or bannings, depending on the severity and regularity of the offences committed.
  • Discussion of illegal activities for example software and music piracy and other intellectual property violations are not allowed."
  • Administrators and Moderators reserve the right to remove any post that purports in their opinion to discriminate on religious, political, sexual or ethnic grounds.
  • Each member is normally allowed one login account. Registering with multiple accounts is not allowed without the prior consent of Demonland. It is not permitted to register under a current or past player's name unless that name is your own.
While we expect to have some constructive criticism of The Board, Coaches, Players, and Staff, we will not tolerate blatant attacks towards these individuals or the spreading of knowingly false information about them. The Board, Coaches, Players, and Staff, should be accorded the same respect that the posters on the forum are accorded - nothing more, but nothing less.

Trolls are not welcome here.

The Demonland Administrators and Moderators wish to express that they are not inclined to rule the Forum with an iron fist, but rather place it in the members hands to take these guidelines and suggestions on board while they post. The Administrators and Moderators will only act when necessary, and will not influence or stop debate or discussion unless rules have been broken and steps must be taken.

Finally, any unauthorised advertising material placed on this site will incur an advertising fee of A$1,000.00 per advertisement plus GST and will be billed to the advertiser even if the advertising post in question is subsequently removed by a Moderator in the course of carrying out his/her duties as a Moderator. By signing up as a member of Demonland you hereby acknowledge your liability to bear the cost of such advertising and to pay the amount due within seven (7) days of billing.

Demonland is a place for supporters of the Melbourne Football Club to discuss issues relating to the Club and to football in general.

If you have any questions regarding these conditions, feel free to contact any Administrator or Moderator via the PM Service at any time.

JOKES POLICY: As a result of AFL policy as stated on Tuesday 19 February, 2013 all posters are warned that the consequences of joking on the site may have substantial negative implications on them and the Club.

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You are only authorised to use the site and its contents for your personal, noncommercial use. This amounts to viewing the site and printing off individual pages or sections for personal use. You may not use any part of the material on this site to establish, maintain or aid in the establishment or maintenance of your own publications, Internet or other."

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With the start of the footy season just round the corner the moderating team thought we'd outline the approach we will take this season.

Demonland is a footy discussion forum designed for the enjoyment of its members who want to discuss all things Demon and all things footy. It provides us with an opportunity to express our opinions, vent our feelings and chat with others of similar interest. The site has been created in support of the club and the players. That doesn't preclude criticism if valid and warranted but does mean that we will not accept posts that go beyond the bounds of fair comment about the club or the players.

Whilst we know that footy is a game that evokes passion and that passion on occasions moves some of us to express our views inappropriately it is imperative that common sense prevail and respect for our Football Club, our players and the people that post here be maintained.

Please keep in mind that Demonland membership is available to everyone and that ANY member of the public can view its contents. People who read this forum can range from law enforcement agencies checking on the legality of comments to very young children wanting to find information on the Demons. You MUST post remembering this and post accordingly or your rights to post will be removed. If you see a post that frustrates you remember:

1. Everyone is entitled to express an opinion but with that entitlement goes responsibility to observe the code of conduct and use common sense.

2. That the person whose post you think is "outrageously stupid" can be anyone from the law enforcement agency to the youngest of supporters.

3. That there is no place on this forum for personal abuse of other posters. This is a zero tolerance requirement.

4. Player abuse is the most difficult area to moderate. Whilst we do not want to stifle player comment and criticism player abuse is NOT acceptable. Comments should be constructive and not destructive. Comments such as "player X is useless" or "player X is crap" are NOT acceptable. Comments such as "player X would need to improve to stay on our list" or "player X was poor today because ...." are acceptable. Common sense will be your best guide here but if you think something is marginal don't say it.

5. Abuse on racial, political or religious grounds will not be tolerated.

6. As moderators we do our best to moderate fairly and maintain the posting environment of the forum but we are volunteers and provide our time as and when we are able to. No moderator will read every post, moderators will view situations differently and some will have more time than others to explain their moderating decisions to members.

7. With this in mind please understand it is not possible for the moderating team to provide absolute consistency. Some things will slip through where they shouldn't and the same thing might be moderated on one day but not the next. Please don't see this as the moderator condoning inappropriate comments. If something happens that you feel should be dealt with send a PM to the mod team and it will be considered. Do NOT take matters into your own hands.

7. Also please understand that moderating a forum such as this takes a lot of time and it is not always possible to send explanatory messages to offenders. Accordingly many posts will be moderated without explanation.

8. Where a moderator is involved in discussion on a thread with another person and moderation is required, it is appropriate that a different moderator determines the issue which should therefore be referred to another moderator for determination.

Enjoy the season everyone and enjoy this forum. Remember the site is for EVERYONES enjoyment and you will be asked to respect that and adhere to the simple guidelines outlined above.

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I've been reading a number of threads in the past couple of days where topics degenerate as a result of personal abuse by posters towards others.

I ask posters to note the following:-

Code Of Conduct

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With regard to posts on the Demonland Forums, the Demonland Administrators and Moderators reserve the right to edit and/or remove posts that are considered to be:

Acts of personal abuse

That's the first item ... and I'll be asking the moderators to take a stricter position on personal abuse from now on.

Thanks

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Hey guys, the concept that "this is a public forum so I can say what I like" is not correct. This is a privately owned forum, hosted and run by sine very generous individuals on a voluntary basis. It's it is "public" because anyone can see it, however it is up to the owner(s) to decide what you can and can't post about on this forum.

If they say be nice, be nice. It's their house.

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Needs enforcement

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I've been reading a number of threads in the past couple of days where topics degenerate as a result of personal abuse by posters towards others.

I ask posters to note the following:-Code Of Conduct

...

With regard to posts on the Demonland Forums, the Demonland Administrators and Moderators reserve the right to edit and/or remove posts that are considered to be:

Acts of personal abuse

That's the first item ... and I'll be asking the moderators to take a stricter position on personal abuse from now on.

Thanks

There seems to be a belief that if a thread is opened under a particular heading this gives the poster licence to post anything they want about that subject.

Not true around here (see above).

Here's the second item ...

Acts of racial, political or religious abuse

Stereotyping particular aspects of a person's appearance or behaviour comes clearly under the definition of such abuse. You should be aware of this especially when making comment on sensitive subjects.

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Some posters must be deterred from expressing their opinion because of the prospect of personal abuse

Some of the abuse is nasty and cheap snd needs moderator action

By all means critique the argument dont abuse the protagonist

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6 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Sad to see TimD banned.  Apparently he was too tough.

If timD has been banned, then I hope it was for something that happened outside of the posts we saw. I'm willing to hear the reason for his banning from a mod before I start throwing accusations around.

However, he is one of the best posters on this forum and always stays within the spirit of vigorous debate that we expect from a fan site. He has been a long term member and a very respected one who has consistently posted within the Code of Conduct. If he has been banned for the reason I think he has, then I would be most disappointed.

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I beg to differ. He was offensive to one of the mods whose job is tough enough without people running their little vendettas against them.

If he was banned for that he deserved it.

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News travels fast.

The action taken was vindicated and we will not tolerate abuse of mods either in direct discussion on boards or by PMs - in this case, the banning was as a result of both.

Posters should be aware that they should respond to PMs by answering the person they are conversing with and not by email which results in my becoming involved as the moderator receiving the emails.

This is not the first time we have had to take action over abuse which was partly due to the contents of a PM.

 Like umpires, it's very easy for those who are not moderators to criticise decisions we have to make - a lot more difficult being a moderator

I won't be taking any further correspondence on this matter but I am happy to take applications for moderator positions.

Thank you.

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