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  1. First win against Port Adelaide in yonks ... three in a row ... plenty of things to discuss.
  2. Demonland

    MATCH REPORT - Round 21

    A STORM IN THE PORT by George on the Outer It is a wind that is building around the Demons as season 2016 draws to a close and this time it was Port Adelaide that bore the brunt of the whirlwind that blew through their slim finals hopes. An eight goal unanswered streak by Melbourne in the first and second quarters put paid to any hope that Port had of a win, especially when one of their golden lights in Chad Wingard, left the ground with a hamstring injury. That only served to highlight the fragility of Port who for too long have depended on a couple of individual performances to get them over the line. It was in sharp contrast to the complete team effort of the Demons that has been carefully cultivated under Paul Roos. In years gone by it was easy to control the outcome for opposition sides. Just sit on Nathan Jones and one or two others and the game result was a foregone conclusion. That is not the case now as the Demon mid-field just oozes a whole battery of talent, and Jones has the backup from Jack Viney, Dom Tyson, Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca and Angus Brayshaw with the irrepressible Max Gawn completely dominating ruck contests, and feeding these mids countless opportunities from his 46 taps in this game. Oliver is simply going to be something truly special next year when he gets a decent pre-season into his 19 year old body. His vision in tight situations and toughness around the ball are something to behold. That he is assisted by another couple of 20 year old beasts in Petracca and Brayshaw means opposition teams will have trouble matching all of them, as Port did in this game. But it is not just in the middle, that the change has been occurring, as the backline has been bolstered by the youth of Sam Frost, Oscar McDonald and Jayden Hunt who earlier this year were doubtful of getting many more than games in the season or were otherwise slated for other roles. It is now easy to see why old stagers like Jack Grimes, Lynden Dunn and Colin Garland can’t get a run in the seniors, as this young group provide consistent line breaking opportunities. That is the way that football is played today, and it is essential to be able to run through the opposition defence and provide attacking moves. With Hunt and Frost able to gain meterage by run and carry their skills open up opportunities. Even O.Mac is finding his feet with 23 touches and some telling marks. Bernie Vince and T.Mac are now the lynch pins and final line of defence, and both contribute to that attacking style. The old mark and kick style is not how to win games any longer. Up forward Jesse Hogan had little impact on the game and may well have carried an injury into the game. He certainly wasn’t moving freely before his collision with the goal post last week, and it didn’t look all that different this week. However, Cam Pedersen provided much, much more as a big target and brought the ball to ground and competed in the air and dished off to the runners going past. He has almost certainly ensured his place at the club next year, as he is providing more output that we have seen from Chris Dawes in his past games. Jack Watts in what seems to be his trademark today, slotted a momentum changing goal, just when it was needed most. Jeff Garlett, despite a couple of goals, simply needs to produce more in a game than he currently does, as the likes of JKH start knocking at the door. One mark and one tackle for a small forward is simply not sufficient, and he needs to start doing the simple things in a game, rather than trying for the spectacular all the time. It was 16 years ago that Melbourne last beat Port in Adelaide, it was the clubs first run of three successive wins since 2006 and the ignoble records that Melbourne have amassed in the past ten years continue to fall. Importantly, this game showed the complete change in attitude that Paul Roos has instilled. Port fought back to within 20 odd points in the final quarter, and in years gone by, a Melbourne side would have capitulated and then rued another loss that shouldn’t have happened. Not this team today, they simply drew breath, stuck with their plan and style and walked away with a near seven goal win. The supporters were and are all too familiar with that scenario. It may take some time for them to get accustomed to a team that now knows how to win. Those same supporters have felt the winds of change that have been blowing through the MFC since the arrival of Peter Jackson, Roos and his team. The zephyr that started has now built into gale force proportions, as the club has now won as many games as it has lost in 2016, and will produce its best season outcome for 10 years. With two more games left in the season,it could build to the hurricane that will clear all before them in the coming year. Melbourne 4.3.27 8.5.53 9.9.63 13.16.94 Port Adelaide 1.2.8 2.4.16 6.5.41 8.6.54 Goals Melbourne Brayshaw Bugg Garlett 2, Frost N Jones Kent Oliver Tyson Vince Watts Port Adelaide Polec Young 2 S Gray Krakouer Wines Wingard Best Melbourne Tyson Vince Gawn Oliver Hunt O McDonald Port Adelaide S Gray Polec R Gray Pittard Wines Changes Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Nil Injuries Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Wingard (hamstring) Reports Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Nil Umpires Bannister, Chamberlain, Mollison Official crowd 33,426 at Adelaide Oval
  3. It is a wind that is building around the Demons as season 2016 draws to a close and this time it was Port Adelaide that bore the brunt of the whirlwind that blew through their slim finals hopes. An eight goal unanswered streak by Melbourne in the first and second quarters put paid to any hope that Port had of a win, especially when one of their golden lights in Chad Wingard, left the ground with a hamstring injury. That only served to highlight the fragility of Port who for too long have depended on a couple of individual performances to get them over the line. It was in sharp contrast to the complete team effort of the Demons that has been carefully cultivated under Paul Roos. In years gone by it was easy to control the outcome for opposition sides. Just sit on Nathan Jones and one or two others and the game result was a foregone conclusion. That is not the case now as the Demon mid-field just oozes a whole battery of talent, and Jones has the backup from Jack Viney, Dom Tyson, Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca and Angus Brayshaw with the irrepressible Max Gawn completely dominating ruck contests, and feeding these mids countless opportunities from his 46 taps in this game. Oliver is simply going to be something truly special next year when he gets a decent pre-season into his 19 year old body. His vision in tight situations and toughness around the ball are something to behold. That he is assisted by another couple of 20 year old beasts in Petracca and Brayshaw means opposition teams will have trouble matching all of them, as Port did in this game. But it is not just in the middle, that the change has been occurring, as the backline has been bolstered by the youth of Sam Frost, Oscar McDonald and Jayden Hunt who earlier this year were doubtful of getting many more than games in the season or were otherwise slated for other roles. It is now easy to see why old stagers like Jack Grimes, Lynden Dunn and Colin Garland can’t get a run in the seniors, as this young group provide consistent line breaking opportunities. That is the way that football is played today, and it is essential to be able to run through the opposition defence and provide attacking moves. With Hunt and Frost able to gain meterage by run and carry their skills open up opportunities. Even O.Mac is finding his feet with 23 touches and some telling marks. Bernie Vince and T.Mac are now the lynch pins and final line of defence, and both contribute to that attacking style. The old mark and kick style is not how to win games any longer. Up forward Jesse Hogan had little impact on the game and may well have carried an injury into the game. He certainly wasn’t moving freely before his collision with the goal post last week, and it didn’t look all that different this week. However, Cam Pedersen provided much, much more as a big target and brought the ball to ground and competed in the air and dished off to the runners going past. He has almost certainly ensured his place at the club next year, as he is providing more output that we have seen from Chris Dawes in his past games. Jack Watts in what seems to be his trademark today, slotted a momentum changing goal, just when it was needed most. Jeff Garlett, despite a couple of goals, simply needs to produce more in a game than he currently does, as the likes of JKH start knocking at the door. One mark and one tackle for a small forward is simply not sufficient, and he needs to start doing the simple things in a game, rather than trying for the spectacular all the time. It was 16 years ago that Melbourne last beat Port in Adelaide, it was the clubs first run of three successive wins since 2006 and the ignoble records that Melbourne have amassed in the past ten years continue to fall. Importantly, this game showed the complete change in attitude that Paul Roos has instilled. Port fought back to within 20 odd points in the final quarter, and in years gone by, a Melbourne side would have capitulated and then rued another loss that shouldn’t have happened. Not this team today, they simply drew breath, stuck with their plan and style and walked away with a near seven goal win. The supporters were and are all too familiar with that scenario. It may take some time for them to get accustomed to a team that now knows how to win. Those same supporters have felt the winds of change that have been blowing through the MFC since the arrival of Peter Jackson, Roos and his team. The zephyr that started has now built into gale force proportions, as the club has now won as many games as it has lost in 2016, and will produce its best season outcome for 10 years. With two more games left in the season,it could build to the hurricane that will clear all before them in the coming year. Melbourne 4.3.27 8.5.53 9.9.63 13.16.94 Port Adelaide 1.2.8 2.4.16 6.5.41 8.6.54 Goals Melbourne Brayshaw Bugg Garlett 2, Frost N Jones Kent Oliver Tyson Vince Watts Port Adelaide Polec Young 2 S Gray Krakouer Wines Wingard Best Melbourne Tyson Vince Gawn Oliver Hunt O McDonald Port Adelaide S Gray Polec R Gray Pittard Wines Changes Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Nil Injuries Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Wingard (hamstring) Reports Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Nil Umpires Bannister, Chamberlain, Mollison Official crowd 33,426 at Adelaide Oval
  4. Whispering_Jack

    GAMEDAY - Round 21 (GROUNDHOG DAY)

    It's deja vu all over again. You wake up on the morning of a game the week after a ground-breaking win and you think - "we're on our way, we're going to win this one." We finished off so well against the Hawks last week while Port Adelaide was so insipid against the Swans. There's no way we can lose this one. Welcome to three wins in a row and another week of talking about mathematical possibilities. And then ... it's Groundhog Day.
  5. SHINING by The Oracle I was watching the discussion on Foxtel's AFL360 programme on Monday night in which Nathan Buckley and Chris Scott were discussing Melbourne's win over defending premiers Hawthorn. They were both in heated agreement that the result should not have shocked anyone: that the Demons are a much better team than is perceived by the football world and they have been that way for some time. Scott pointed to the fact that they were unlucky against the Eagles in Perth, had stretched Adelaide a few weeks before that and earlier in the year came close to beating North Melbourne in Hobart. Buckley nodded and added they had beaten his team twice this year. We all know this, but young sides don't always shine. What is of concern is the way that the team has gone in between those better performances. There were the two bad losses at Etihad against St Kilda, the second round humiliation at home against Essendon and of course, the capitulation in the heart of the country when they went down without so much as a whimper to Port Adelaide at the end of May when the Power were struggling. Buckley and Scott said nothing about these games and the football world and euphoric Demon fans in the wake of last week's victory also appear to have forgotten. That is the problem with assessing how Melbourne will fare on Saturday night at the Adelaide Oval against a team that is similarly inconsistent. Will they be so swept up in the way in which they have basked for a week in their grand final like victory over the Hawks to fall into the all too familiar traps of the past? And which Port Adelaide side will show up on the night? The one that was completely destroyed by the Swans last week at the SCG or that which outclassed the Brisbane Lions the week before? One thing is certain - Ken Hinkley certainly knows how to beat Melbourne. His first win at the helm at Port Adelaide came in his debut match as coach when his team demolished Mark Neeld's dreams in the opening round of 2013 by 79 points at the MCG. They have since beaten Melbourne four times with three of those victories coming at TIO Traeger Park, the last of them being that 45 point drubbing in Round 10 earlier this year. Paradoxically, the Demons' best showing came two years ago at Adelaide Oval when they lost narrowly by three points in a game that could have gone either way. The Demons have come a long way since then. The make up of the side and the style of play have changed substantially. Their young team is improving in confidence and ability with each passing week. There is always the chance that they will regress on any given week but they have developed a penchant for breaking hoodoos this year and their now seven game losing streak against Port Adelaide is waiting to be broken. Their on ball division has climbed out of third world status and threatens to move into the upper echelon in the not too distant future. This is the moment for the Demons to shine and I'm predicting a 25 point win for them at the Adelaide Oval. THE GAME Port Adelaide v Melbourne on Saturday 13 August, 2016 at 7.40pm (AEST) at Adelaide Oval HEAD TO HEAD Overall Port Adelaide 19 wins Melbourne 11 wins At Adelaide Oval Port Adelaide 2 wins Melbourne 0 wins Past five meetings Port Adelaide 5 wins Melbourne 0 wins The Coaches Hinkley 4 wins Roos 0 wins MEDIA TV - Fox Sports3 live at 7.30pm RADIO - SEN ABC ABC Grandstand THE BETTING Port Adelaide to win - $1.45 Melbourne to win - $2.80 THE LAST TIME THEY MET Port Adelaide 18.13.121 defeated Melbourne 10.16.76 Round 10, 2016 at TIO Traeger Park A wasteful Melbourne lost another game at one of its homes away from home, TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs. Despite an outstanding ruck performance from Max Gawn and a dominant opening term (everywhere but on the scoreboard), the errant Demons watched helplessly as its defence leaked like a sieve unforgivably leaving opposition forwards on their own. Charlie Dixon booted three goals in the second term on his way to five for the game as the "away" side ran out 45 point winners. Despite making it three defeats in a row to Port in the centre of the country, Melbourne has decided to return again next year. THE TEAMS PORT ADELAIDE B: Darcy Byrne-Jones, Logan Austin, Jasper Pittard HB: Matthew Broadbent, Jackson Trengove, Tom Clurey C: Brad Ebert, Ollie Wines, Jared Polec HF: Jarman Impey, Justin Westhoff, Chad Wingard F: Jesse Palmer, Charlie Dixon, Aaron Young FOLL: Matthew Lobbe, Travis Boak, Robbie Gray I/C: Karl Amon, Sam Gray, Nathan Krakouer EMG: Riley Bonner, Brendon Ah Chee, Jake Neade IN: Matthew Lobbe, Jesse Palmer, Cam O'Shea OUT: John Butcher (omitted), Brendon Ah Chee (Omitted), Paul Stewart (Omitted) NEW: Jesse Palmer MELBOURNE B: Sam Frost, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Jayden Hunt, Oscar McDonald, Tomas Bugg C: Christian Petracca, Bernie Vince, Dom Tyson HF: Jeff Garlett, Jack Watts, Aaron vandenBerg F: James Harmes, Jesse Hogan, Dean Kent FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney I/C: Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, Cameron Pedersen, Billy Stretch EMG: Chris Dawes, Colin Garland, Alex Neal-Bullen IN: Jesse Hogan OUT: Sam Weideman (quad)
  6. Demonland

    SHINING by The Oracle

    I was watching the discussion on Foxtel's AFL360 programme on Monday night in which Nathan Buckley and Chris Scott were discussing Melbourne's win over defending premiers Hawthorn. They were both in heated agreement that the result should not have shocked anyone: that the Demons are a much better team than is perceived by the football world and they have been that way for some time. Scott pointed to the fact that they were unlucky against the Eagles in Perth, had stretched Adelaide a few weeks before that and earlier in the year came close to beating North Melbourne in Hobart. Buckley nodded and added they had beaten his team twice this year. We all know this, but young sides don't always shine. What is of concern is the way that the team has gone in between those better performances. There were the two bad losses at Etihad against St Kilda, the second round humiliation at home against Essendon and of course, the capitulation in the heart of the country when they went down without so much as a whimper to Port Adelaide at the end of May when the Power were struggling. Buckley and Scott said nothing about these games and the football world and euphoric Demon fans in the wake of last week's victory also appear to have forgotten. That is the problem with assessing how Melbourne will fare on Saturday night at the Adelaide Oval against a team that is similarly inconsistent. Will they be so swept up in the way in which they have basked for a week in their grand final like victory over the Hawks to fall into the all too familiar traps of the past? And which Port Adelaide side will show up on the night? The one that was completely destroyed by the Swans last week at the SCG or that which outclassed the Brisbane Lions the week before? One thing is certain - Ken Hinkley certainly knows how to beat Melbourne. His first win at the helm at Port Adelaide came in his debut match as coach when his team demolished Mark Neeld's dreams in the opening round of 2013 by 79 points at the MCG. They have since beaten Melbourne four times with three of those victories coming at TIO Traeger Park, the last of them being that 45 point drubbing in Round 10 earlier this year. Paradoxically, the Demons' best showing came two years ago at Adelaide Oval when they lost narrowly by three points in a game that could have gone either way. The Demons have come a long way since then. The make up of the side and the style of play have changed substantially. Their young team is improving in confidence and ability with each passing week. There is always the chance that they will regress on any given week but they have developed a penchant for breaking hoodoos this year and their now seven game losing streak against Port Adelaide is waiting to be broken. Their on ball division has climbed out of third world status and threatens to move into the upper echelon in the not too distant future. This is the moment for the Demons to shine and I'm predicting a 25 point win for them at the Adelaide Oval. THE GAME Port Adelaide v Melbourne on Saturday 13 August, 2016 at 7.40pm (AEST) at Adelaide Oval HEAD TO HEAD Overall Port Adelaide 19 wins Melbourne 11 wins At Adelaide Oval Port Adelaide 2 wins Melbourne 0 wins Past five meetings Port Adelaide 5 wins Melbourne 0 wins The Coaches Hinkley 4 wins Roos 0 wins MEDIA TV - Fox Sports3 live at 7.30pm RADIO - SEN ABC ABC Grandstand THE BETTING Port Adelaide to win - $1.45 Melbourne to win - $2.80 THE LAST TIME THEY MET Port Adelaide 18.13.121 defeated Melbourne 10.16.76 Round 10, 2016 at TIO Traeger Park A wasteful Melbourne lost another game at one of its homes away from home, TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs. Despite an outstanding ruck performance from Max Gawn and a dominant opening term (everywhere but on the scoreboard), the errant Demons watched helplessly as its defence leaked like a sieve unforgivably leaving opposition forwards on their own. Charlie Dixon booted three goals in the second term on his way to five for the game as the "away" side ran out 45 point winners. Despite making it three defeats in a row to Port in the centre of the country, Melbourne has decided to return again next year. THE TEAMS PORT ADELAIDE B: Darcy Byrne-Jones, Logan Austin, Jasper Pittard HB: Matthew Broadbent, Jackson Trengove, Tom Clurey C: Brad Ebert, Ollie Wines, Jared Polec HF: Jarman Impey, Justin Westhoff, Chad Wingard F: Jesse Palmer, Charlie Dixon, Aaron Young FOLL: Matthew Lobbe, Travis Boak, Robbie Gray I/C: Karl Amon, Sam Gray, Nathan Krakouer EMG: Riley Bonner, Brendon Ah Chee, Jake Neade IN: Matthew Lobbe, Jesse Palmer, Cam O'Shea OUT: John Butcher (omitted), Brendon Ah Chee (Omitted), Paul Stewart (Omitted) NEW: Jesse Palmer MELBOURNE B: Sam Frost, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Jayden Hunt, Oscar McDonald, Tomas Bugg C: Christian Petracca, Bernie Vince, Dom Tyson HF: Jeff Garlett, Jack Watts, Aaron vandenBerg F: James Harmes, Jesse Hogan, Dean Kent FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney I/C: Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, Cameron Pedersen, Billy Stretch EMG: Chris Dawes, Colin Garland, Alex Neal-Bullen IN: Jesse Hogan OUT: Sam Weideman (quad)
  7. Demonland

    THE LAST TIME THEY MET

    We started the game played in Alice Springs well but kicked poorly for goal. Jack Viney was a little too aggressive and got reported (and was injured). The team blew up. MELBOURNE B: Josh Wagner, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Tomas Bugg, Oscar McDonald, Colin Garland C: Billy Stretch, Dom Tyson, Bernie Vince HF: Dean Kent, Jack Watts, Jeff Garlett F: Christian Petracca, Jesse Hogan, Ben Kennedy FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney I/C: James Harmes, Jayden Hunt, Alex Neal-Bullen, Ben Newton EMG: Chris Dawes, Jack Grimes, Viv Michie IN: Neville Jetta, Dom Tyson OUT: Viv Michie (omitted), Clayton Oliver (quad) PORT ADELAIDE B: Darcy Byrne-Jones, Jack Hombsch, Jasper Pittard HB: Nathan Krakouer, Cam O'Shea, Matthew Broadbent C: Jared Polec, Ollie Wines, Brad Ebert HF: Jake Neade, Justin Westhoff, Hamish Hartlett F: Aaron Young, Charlie Dixon, Chad Wingard FOLL: Jackson Trengove, Travis Boak, Robbie Gray I/C: Karl Amon, Dougal Howard, Jarman Impey, Paul Stewart EMG: Brendon Ah Chee, Logan Austin, Sam Gray IN: Dougal Howard OUT: Tom Jonas (suspended)
  8. Demonland

    NAB Challenge Aftermath

    SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL by Whispering Jack Since time immemorial, pre season practice matches, be they the intraclub variety or contests between clubs played for trophies or otherwise, have always needed to be looked at with a dose of skepticism. Coaches and clubs use these games for different purposes, teams are often of different strength and there's plenty of experimentation. I will not therefore allow myself to get too carried away with Melbourne's big second half effort to defeat Port Adelaide 0.15.5.95 to 1.10.7.76 in its opening NAB Challenge match of 2016. By the same token there were some excellent signs from the team that missed the bulk of the older, more experienced heads of its list that give cause for some optimism for the year ahead. We know that Paul Roos historically is known to place very little store on winning these pre season games but his stand in Simon Goodwin was a bit of an unknown on that score. After his charges started slowly and hesitantly on the large sized Playford Alive Oval in Elizabeth SA, they regrouped in the second term and ran over the top of what was a close to full strength Port Adelaide team in the last half. The turnaround was huge. For years, the Demons have been unable to mount come from behind victories. Nor have they been able to master the type of grounds where there's extra space and greater distance to goal. It requires the ability to get the contested ball in the first instance and fitness and hard running on the outside to bring the ball into the forward line quickly and decisively. The dominance of big Maxy Gawn in the ruck (42 hitouts, mainly in the first three quarters because he sat out most of the last) gave Jack Viney who had 16 contested possessions in a game high 28, Dom Tyson, Aaron vandenBerg and recruit Clayton Oliver an armchair ride at the stoppages. They got the ball out to the likes of Jack Watts, Matt Jones and hard nosed newcomers in Tomas Bugg from the Giants and Ben Kennedy from Collingwood and if they didn't score, their work was usually finished off by the likes of Jeff Garlett, Dean Kent and James Harmes. Collectively, they stunned the crowd of just under 5,000 and the many more viewers of Foxtel and a few here and there who watched on pirated broadcasts. Port Adelaide clearly planned their defensive game on shutting down Jesse Hogan and they achieved that by double and triple teaming him (at times with questionable methods). In the past when Melbourne had few dangerous options up forward, that tactic might have worked. The fact that the Demons are developing a good array of attacking weapons saw them to victory in this instance. And we know that there's plenty more to come. Melbourne's defense was tidy after the poor start. In the opening stanza they were far too loose but, led well by Tom McDonald, Colin Garland, Lynden Dunn and Neville Jetta, they tightened up and ultimately strangled the opposition keeping it scoreless in the the third quarter. When was the last time Melbourne did that in any game? The loss of Angus Brayshaw in the opening piece of play followed immediately by a hard hit on Tyson which saw him momentarily dazed followed by three goals (one of the super variety) to the home state side spelled doom and disaster. Demon fans of the fisted forever school were already foretelling that world was at an end - Armageddon had arrived ten minutes into the season. It was good then to come out with the non-existent four points and a medical report on Brayshaw that suggested a low level medial ligament injury that might see him back by round one of the real thing. There is of course a lot to work on - Hogan's key forward partner is more likely Cam Pedersen than Sam Frost at this stage. I would like to see the club give one of its tall forwards in waiting (Sam Weideman or Liam Hulett) a cameo run next week. Perhaps some fine tuning with the midfield mix and the second ruck - these games are practice matches after all and we can't get carried away - yet. Melbourne 0.2.2.14 0.4.3.27 0.10.5.65 0.15.5.95 Port Adelaide 1.3.3.30 1.6.5.50 1.6.5.50 1.10.7.76 Goals Melbourne Garlett 3 Kent Pedersen vandenBerg 2 Harmes Hogan Kennedy M Jones Salem Tyson Port Adelaide Boak Westhoff 3 R Gray Schulz White Young Best Melbourne Gawn Viney Watts vandenBerg Garlett Grimes Tyson Port Adelaide R Gray Boak Toumpas Pittard S Gray Broadbent Injuries Melbourne Brayshaw (left knee) Port Adelaide Nil Umpires Chris Donlon Jacob Mollison Craig Fleer Nick Brown Crowd 4,981 at Playford Alive Oval
  9. What else on a day that we've been waiting for almost five months? The first NAB Challenge match against Port Adelaide at Playford Alive Oval today at 2:00 PM A 29 man squad announced earlier in the week will be trimmed to 26 players ahead of the match. Melbourne squad v Port Adelaide 1. Jesse Hogan 3. Christian Salem 4. Jack Watts 7. Jack Viney 10. Angus Brayshaw 11. Max Gawn 12. Dom Tyson 13. Clayton Oliver * 14. Lynden Dunn 15. Billy Stretch 16. Dean Kent 17. Sam Frost 20. Colin Garland 21. Cameron Pedersen 22. Viv Michie (r) 25. Tom McDonald 28. Oscar McDonald 29. Jayden Hunt * 30. Alex Neal-Bullen 31. Jack Grimes 32. Tomas Bugg * 35. Ben Kennedy * 36. Jeff Garlett 37. Aaron vandenBerg 39. Neville Jetta 42. Josh Wagner (r) * 43. James Harmes 45. Matt Jones 46. Dean Terlich * first game for MFC ... and despite the fact that Melbourne has selected its best available team, it's looming as a Goliath v David clash with betting agencies having the home state team at $1.13 to win against $6.00 for Melbourne.
  10. We have a bye next week so we can talk about this game for two weeks.
  11. Please cast your votes 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, No Jones rule today.
  12. Demonland

    COMPOSURE by The Oracle

    It was the second time this year that Melbourne held the lead half way through the final quarter against Port Adelaide and yet it lost the game. Earlier in the year, it was a case of a young club simply running out of legs against fitter opposition but this time, it was a case of running out of composure when the time came to hold strong when a game was in the balance. The other comparison with their earlier encounter at Alice Springs was the fact that the Demons leaked goals in conceding an early run on and then had to work hard to rein in the Power. It was hard enough doing that in Alice Springs but it was even more difficult at the "Portress". Melbourne surprised its fans with the opening goal through Luke Tapscott but the Power answered and the game was evenly balanced until Dom Tyson broke through for his team's second goal and a six point lead. The next half hour's play was the low point for Melbourne with the home side kicking three consecutive majors on both sides of the first break to go to a 30-point lead. Twenty minutes into the second quarter, Port had all the momentum, leading 7.4.46 to 2.4.16 and all thoughts of Melbourne fans were about where was the next goal going to come from and how could the damage best be controlled. Somehow, the Demons found the inspiration to take the game on and returned the favour to their hosts by kicking three goals on either side of the break. In the early part of the third quarter the goals came through speedsters Sam Blease and Jay Kennedy-Harris while Jack Watts, who had been quiet early but dominant in this term, goaled at the 16-minute mark to give his side the lead. The question that Melbourne fans were asking now was why had it taken so long for the team to start using some run and to take a game on in the way it was doing now? It didn't last long as the game turned into an arm wrestle for the remainder of the term and it was almost inevitable that the Power would regain the ascendancy, which it did right on three quarter time with the aid of a fortunate free kick paid against Watts for interference - ironically because he had been crunched once or twice earlier in the game without gaining the benefit of a free. The Demons refused to allow the game to slip and goals to Rohan Bail and Tyson's second restored the lead until a late forward thrust by Melbourne was cut off and Port Adelaide moved the ball virtually the length of the ground to where Port's Jay Schulz was paid a mark against a protesting Lynden Dunn to score the winning goal with less than two minutes remaining on the clock. The Demons last roll of the dice came to nothing when a clearing kick from Jack Grimes to Tyson who was in the clear and had support, went out of bounds on the full. Thirty seconds later, the game was over. Dom Tyson with 32 touches was Melbourne's best and he was well backed up by skipper Nathan Jones who was subjected to some close treatment early in the game. It was a much better performance for the Demons but, having twice had chances against a top four club in Port Adelaide it still needs to learn how to beat the top sides. Melbourne 2.3.15 5.5.35 8.7.55 10.9.69 Port Adelaide 4.4.28 7.6.48 8.9.57 10.12.72 Goals Melbourne Tyson 2 Bail Blease Frawley Kennedy-Harris Pedersen Tapscott Vince Pedersen Watts Port Adelaide Schulz Stewart Westhoff 2 Boak Pittard Wingard Young Best Melbourne Tyson Jamar N Jones Garland Watts Frawley Port Adelaide Westhoff Gray Wines Cornes O'Shea Schulz Ebert Changes Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Nil Injuries Melbourne Tapscott (knee) Port Adelaide Hartlett (ankle) Reports Melbourne Nil Port Adelaide Nil Umpires Jeff Dalgleish, Dean Margetts, David Harris Crowd 37,894 at Adelaide Oval.
  13. Whispering_Jack

    GAME DAY - Round 18

    We've added some pace today in the form of JKH and Sammy Blease. Will it make a difference?
  14. TIRED by Whispering Jack The story this week is that the young Melbourne side is now suffering from fatigue. Strangely enough, this came from a young player who was one of the very few at the club who showed no signs of weariness last week against Geelong - Jack Viney. Viney, who was one of his team's best in the 66-point defeat last Saturday at the MCG, told the club's website this week, "We started the season really well and were starting to play some real top quality teams now, and its starting to show that the boys are getting a bit fatigued." He added that "They (Geelong) were beating us in contested footy and all areas, so it was about getting back to playing man-on-man footy, and beating our opponent. "From my point of view, it was pleasing to see a little bit more fight in the second half, but it was still not as much as we needed." Sorry Jack, but there's no need to start making excuses for your teammates and the only ones really getting tired are the fans. Over the past two weeks, against quality opposition in Fremantle and Geelong the team has managed a total of nine goals on the back of a creditable performance in coming close to beating the Western Bulldogs at Etihad. In the same time span the equally young (and possibly more inexperienced) Bulldogs have shown no sign whatsoever against of tiredness against two teams that are in the finals race. Rather than demonstrating fatigue, that team is bubbling with enthusiasm and full of energy - a team prepared to take the game on and play attacking football rather than be mired in defensive football only. The Demons' defensive mindset may well be a matter of design; that several months of training and playing in that mode will hold it in good stead in the future but is now weighing heavily on the team. They take on Port Adelaide this Sunday at a ground where they have already recorded a win this year and against a team undergoing a form slump. Moreover, the Demons have available, all bar one player (the injured Daniel Cross) who represented them so admirably in Alice Springs on 31 May. On that occasion, they missed their suspended and then in form key forward Chris Dawes and it wasn't a matter of tiredness that cost them the game but two lapses at either end of the match (each conceding four goals in a quarter hour of play). The teams also have history at the Adelaide Oval where they met a few years ago before it was refurbished in preparation for its role as an AFL ground. That was the day when some incredible umpiring decisions went the way of the home team to give them an unexpected victory. Similarly, this is also a game that could bring Melbourne the four points. It is winnable if the players want it but to do that they need to go for the win and do so for the 120 minutes allocated. THE GAME Port Adelaide v Melbourne on Sunday 20 July, 2014 at 1.10pm at Adelaide Oval HEAD TO HEAD Overall Port Adelaide 16 wins Melbourne 11 wins At Adelaide Oval Port Adelaide 1 win Melbourne 0 wins Past five years Port Adelaide 4 wins Melbourne 1 win The Coaches Hinkley 1 win Roos 0 wins MEDIA TV - Fox Footy Channel Live at 1.00pm RADIO - Triple M 3AW SEN ABC Grandstand THE BETTING Port Adelaide to win - $1.05 Melbourne to win - $10.00 THE LAST TIME THEY MET Port Adelaide 14.11.95 defeated Melbourne 11.9.75 in Round 11, 2014 at TIO Tregear Park, Alice Springs Port Adelaide jumped Melbourne early to race to a 26-point lead but the Demons hit back to take the lead in the third quarter. Port struck back to lead at the last break but Melbourne was in front halfway through the final term before a Power surge saw them safely home. THE TEAMS PORT ADELAIDE B: Cam O'Shea, Jack Hombsch, Dom Cassisi. HB: Matthew Broadbent, Tom Jonas, Jasper Pittard C: Jared Polec, Travis Boak, Kane Cornes HF: Paul Stewart, Justin Westhoff, Matt White F: Robbie Gray, Jay Schulz, Chad Wingard FOLL: Matthew Lobbe, Ollie Wines, Brad Ebert I/C: Hamish Hartlett, Jarman Impey, Benjamin Newton, Aaron Young EMG: Thomas Logan, Sam Gray, John Butcher IN: John Butcher, Dom Cassisi, Benjamin Newton, Paul Stewart OUT: Sam Gray, Thomas Logan, Kane Mitchell (all omitted) MELBOURNE B: Colin Garland, James Frawley, Lynden Dunn HB: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Jeremy Howe C: Jack Grimes, Bernie Vince, Jordie McKenzie HF: Jack Viney, Cameron Pedersen, Jack Watts F: Rohan Bail, Chris Dawes, Aidan Riley FOLL: Mark Jamar, Nathan Jones, Dom Tyson I/C: Dean Kent, Sam Blease, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Luke Tapscott EMG: Viv Michie, Max Gawn, Dean Terlich IN: Sam Blease, Jay Kennedy-Harris OUT: Matt Jones, Dean Terlich Port Adelaide starts the game as the hottest of hot favourites despite having lost four of its last five matches and tumbling out of the top four for the first time since very early in the season. They disappointed last week against Richmond but missed by only two points the week before against Essendon and the defeat that started their slump was by just four points in Sydney. Melbourne's stocks have plummeted badly since their win against Essendon with poor performances against North Melbourne, Fremantle and Geelong (losses of 41, 63 and 66 points respectively) with only the single goal loss to the Bulldogs among them for consolation. The disturbing aspect had been the complete collapse of the club's capacity to put goals on the board - a total of only nine scored in the last two goals stands as testament to its forward line impotence. One wonders what Paul Roos is going to do about the problem this week, assuming he acknowledges that it is indeed a problem that needs to be dealt with in the short term. Earlier in the season, the team performed best when Chris Dawes returned to hold down one key forward placing and James Frawley was moved forward to plug the gap left by Mitch Clark's sudden retirement and Jesse Hogan's ongoing back problems. Lately, Dawes has been unproductive. He's not holding those marks and he's not kicking goals either. Meanwhile, Frawley has been moved down back where he has been relatively ineffective. On top of that, none of the small crumbing forwards who have been given opportunities around the goals have worried the opposition or been able to kick multiple goals. Instead, we get a buzz when someone, anyone, manages to scrounge a singe goal in a quarter of play. The only redeeming feature of this game is that it was at this ground earlier in the year against the Adelaide Crows that Melbourne was able to manage a decent run of goals but even then, although it won the game, the goals dried up after half a game of football. The signs are therefore not good. Port Adelaide by 50 points.
  15. Demonland

    TIRED by Whispering Jack

    The story this week is that the young Melbourne side is now suffering from fatigue. Strangely enough, this came from a young player who was one of the very few at the club who showed no signs of weariness last week against Geelong - Jack Viney. Viney, who was one of his team's best in the 66-point defeat last Saturday at the MCG, told the club's website this week, "We started the season really well and were starting to play some real top quality teams now, and its starting to show that the boys are getting a bit fatigued." He added that "They (Geelong) were beating us in contested footy and all areas, so it was about getting back to playing man-on-man footy, and beating our opponent. "From my point of view, it was pleasing to see a little bit more fight in the second half, but it was still not as much as we needed." Sorry Jack, but there's no need to start making excuses for your teammates and the only ones really getting tired are the fans. Over the past two weeks, against quality opposition in Fremantle and Geelong the team has managed a total of nine goals on the back of a creditable performance in coming close to beating the Western Bulldogs at Etihad. In the same time span the equally young (and possibly more inexperienced) Bulldogs have shown no sign whatsoever against of tiredness against two teams that are in the finals race. Rather than demonstrating fatigue, that team is bubbling with enthusiasm and full of energy - a team prepared to take the game on and play attacking football rather than be mired in defensive football only. The Demons' defensive mindset may well be a matter of design; that several months of training and playing in that mode will hold it in good stead in the future but is now weighing heavily on the team. They take on Port Adelaide this Sunday at a ground where they have already recorded a win this year and against a team undergoing a form slump. Moreover, the Demons have available, all bar one player (the injured Daniel Cross) who represented them so admirably in Alice Springs on 31 May. On that occasion, they missed their suspended and then in form key forward Chris Dawes and it wasn't a matter of tiredness that cost them the game but two lapses at either end of the match (each conceding four goals in a quarter hour of play). The teams also have history at the Adelaide Oval where they met a few years ago before it was refurbished in preparation for its role as an AFL ground. That was the day when some incredible umpiring decisions went the way of the home team to give them an unexpected victory. Similarly, this is also a game that could bring Melbourne the four points. It is winnable if the players want it but to do that they need to go for the win and do so for the 120 minutes allocated. THE GAME Port Adelaide v Melbourne on Sunday 20 July, 2014 at 1.10pm at Adelaide Oval HEAD TO HEAD Overall Port Adelaide 16 wins Melbourne 11 wins At Adelaide Oval Port Adelaide 1 win Melbourne 0 wins Past five years Port Adelaide 4 wins Melbourne 1 win The Coaches Hinkley 1 win Roos 0 wins MEDIA TV - Fox Footy Channel Live at 1.00pm RADIO - Triple M 3AW SEN ABC Grandstand THE BETTING Port Adelaide to win - $1.05 Melbourne to win - $10.00 THE LAST TIME THEY MET Port Adelaide 14.11.95 defeated Melbourne 11.9.75 in Round 11, 2014 at TIO Tregear Park, Alice Springs Port Adelaide jumped Melbourne early to race to a 26-point lead but the Demons hit back to take the lead in the third quarter. Port struck back to lead at the last break but Melbourne was in front halfway through the final term before a Power surge saw them safely home. THE TEAMS PORT ADELAIDE B: Cam O'Shea, Jack Hombsch, Dom Cassisi. HB: Matthew Broadbent, Tom Jonas, Jasper Pittard C: Jared Polec, Travis Boak, Kane Cornes HF: Paul Stewart, Justin Westhoff, Matt White F: Robbie Gray, Jay Schulz, Chad Wingard FOLL: Matthew Lobbe, Ollie Wines, Brad Ebert I/C: Hamish Hartlett, Jarman Impey, Benjamin Newton, Aaron Young EMG: Thomas Logan, Sam Gray, John Butcher IN: John Butcher, Dom Cassisi, Benjamin Newton, Paul Stewart OUT: Sam Gray, Thomas Logan, Kane Mitchell (all omitted) MELBOURNE B: Colin Garland, James Frawley, Lynden Dunn HB: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Jeremy Howe C: Jack Grimes, Bernie Vince, Jordie McKenzie HF: Jack Viney, Cameron Pedersen, Jack Watts F: Rohan Bail, Chris Dawes, Aidan Riley FOLL: Mark Jamar, Nathan Jones, Dom Tyson I/C: Dean Kent, Sam Blease, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Luke Tapscott EMG: Viv Michie, Max Gawn, Dean Terlich IN: Sam Blease, Jay Kennedy-Harris OUT: Matt Jones, Dean Terlich Port Adelaide starts the game as the hottest of hot favourites despite having lost four of its last five matches and tumbling out of the top four for the first time since very early in the season. They disappointed last week against Richmond but missed by only two points the week before against Essendon and the defeat that started their slump was by just four points in Sydney. Melbourne's stocks have plummeted badly since their win against Essendon with poor performances against North Melbourne, Fremantle and Geelong (losses of 41, 63 and 66 points respectively) with only the single goal loss to the Bulldogs among them for consolation. The disturbing aspect had been the complete collapse of the club's capacity to put goals on the board - a total of only nine scored in the last two goals stands as testament to its forward line impotence. One wonders what Paul Roos is going to do about the problem this week, assuming he acknowledges that it is indeed a problem that needs to be dealt with in the short term. Earlier in the season, the team performed best when Chris Dawes returned to hold down one key forward placing and James Frawley was moved forward to plug the gap left by Mitch Clark's sudden retirement and Jesse Hogan's ongoing back problems. Lately, Dawes has been unproductive. He's not holding those marks and he's not kicking goals either. Meanwhile, Frawley has been moved down back where he has been relatively ineffective. On top of that, none of the small crumbing forwards who have been given opportunities around the goals have worried the opposition or been able to kick multiple goals. Instead, we get a buzz when someone, anyone, manages to scrounge a singe goal in a quarter of play. The only redeeming feature of this game is that it was at this ground earlier in the year against the Adelaide Crows that Melbourne was able to manage a decent run of goals but even then, although it won the game, the goals dried up after half a game of football. The signs are therefore not good. Port Adelaide by 50 points.
  16. Demonland

    THE LAST TIME THEY MET

    Not that long ago ... MELBOURNE B: Colin Garland, Tom McDonald, Dean Terlich HB: Neville Jetta, Lynden Dunn, Jack Grimes C: Daniel Cross, Dom Tyson, Bernie Vince HF: Rohan Bail, James Frawley, Jack Watts F: Cameron Pedersen, Max Gawn, Jeremy Howe FOLL: Mark Jamar, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney I/C: Matt Jones, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Aidan Riley, Christian Salem EMG: Jordie McKenzie, Daniel Nicholson, Jimmy Toumpas IN: James Frawley, Neville Jetta OUT: Chris Dawes (suspended), Jimmy Toumpas (omitted) PORT ADELAIDE B: J Hombsch, A Carlile, J Impey HB: M Broadbent, J Trengove, J Pittard C: J Polec, T Boak, K Cornes HF: A Moore, J Westhoff, M White F: R Gray, J Schulz, C Wingard FOLL: M Lobbe, O Wines, B Ebert I/C: K Mitchell, J Neade, P Stewart, A.Young EMG: K Amon, S Gray, B Newton IN: P Stewart, A Moore, J Neade OUT: D Cassisi, A Monfries, H Hartlett
  17. Demonland

    THE LAST TIME THEY MET

    The teams last met in July 2012 at TIO Stadium in Darwin and I'm expecting a few changes to the team lineups when selections are revealed later in the day. MELBOURNE Backs Daniel Nicholson James Frawley Colin Garland Half backs Joel Macdonald Tom McDonald Jack Grimes Centreline Rohan Bail Colin Sylvia Sam Blease Half forwards Ricky Petterd Stefan Martin Jeremy Howe Forwards James Magner Jared Rivers Brad Green Followers Jake Spencer Jack Trengove Nathan Jones Interchange Thomas Couch Lynden Dunn Neville Jetta James Strauss Emergencies Matthew Bate Jordan Gysberts James Sellar In Lynden Dunn Neville Jetta James Magner Jake Spencer Out Matthew Bate (omitted) Jamie Bennell (knee) Jordie McKenzie (groin) Mark Jamar (calf) PORT ADELAIDE Backs Jackson Trengove Alipate Carlile Paul Stewart Half backs Tom Logan Troy Chaplin Domenic Cassisi Centreline Matthew Broadbent Travis Boak Kane Cornes Half forwards Andrew Moore Justin Westhoff Danyle Pearce Forwards John McCarthy Daniel Stewart Brett Ebert Followers Matthew Lobbe Bradley Ebert Matt Thomas Interchange Thomas Jonas Jasper Pittard Chad Wingard Aaron Young Emergencies Darren Pfeiffer Brent Renouf David Rodan In Domenic Cassisi Jasper Pittard Out Darren Pfeiffer Jarrad Redden
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