I agree with all that's been said and would like to add, How about Howe, he tried hard to impress. Why don't our players go up for marks? it seems they prefer to stand flatfooted and wait for the crumbs.......when they do quite often its 2 going for the same mark.....talk to each other boys, you are part of a team!! Team spirit seems to be lacking......come on coach.......things don't seem to have improved from last year. I love the Deeees, so come on give something back to your supporters and show some guts and determination and play good footy.