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Jara last won the day on January 12 2013

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  1. Jara

    Bob on fox footy

    My daughter's school burnt down on Black Saturday, and Bob visited and spent a whole day with the kids. My daughter said he was really nice - interested in all sorts of things, not just footy, and very funny. (Some Collingwood players visited as well - or tried to. They got lost, couldn't find the school, turned around and went home)
  2. Maybe my memory's playing tricks, but I seem to recall they also put a lot of money into the Western Bulldogs (not to mention $30 mill to Foxtel to increase coverage of women's sport) We're the oldest club, we started the league and haven't had a proper home for decades; should be able to mount a pretty good argument.
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    Islam in the West

    Hmmm...guessed as much. Lots of "anecdotes", precious few books.
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    Islam in the West

    Pro - You keep boasting about what an "expert" you are on Islam. You said back there your expertise was based upon your wide reading and "anecdotes". I'm not interested in the latter (which I presume is Pro-speak for unmediated rubbish you see on the Internet), but what is this "reading"? What are the books you've read? (I know you've mentioned the Koran, but using that as the basis for an argument would be like using the Bible to condemn the Christian West) By the way, I'm still waiting for your explanation of what you mean by saying you're "cause-based" and we're "side based".
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    Islam in the West

    im just home and having a quick look on my phone but i don't understand. Is this a picture of the Eid festival or something? Why are you posting it? Am i missing something or is it just a photo of people praying?
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    Islam in the West

    Thanks When was it? And i suppose it might be difficult to say but what did you mean "you've done your bit" in fighting terrorism?
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    Islam in the West

    Ethan Could i ask where and when that happened?
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    Islam in the West

    What's this! Pro doesn't do sides. He only does causes.
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    Islam in the West

    Yes, Earl, you're a disgrace. Your grammar is hopeless. Now off to bed. And Pro, congrats, you're the grammar king. Well done on picking up the "your". But you let the side down with that "absolving Islam with FGM". What's that supposed to mean? How do you absolve a religion with FGM? Sloppy work there Pro.
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    Islam in the West

    Hi Raf I think the world would be better off if one's relationship with the Divine was regarded as a personal matter. So I don't think much of any organised religion - they all seem to attract a few decent people, but the power-hungry wa*&#kers float to the top.(That said, I quite like Quakers)
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    Islam in the West

    Not the diplomatic corp, Earl. Pro's big regret is that he wasn't born in Austria in about 1890. He could have really made a name for himself then. Now go to bed and stop supporting FGM and Third World soot.
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    Islam in the West

    Now look Earl, I've been meaning to tell you, you really ought to do something about this mental illness of yours. You should see a doctor. Hang on - what am I talking about? I am a doctor. Let me help you. My diagnosis is that you've been spending too long trying to engage in "mature conversation" with knuckleheads like Pro, who, for example, boasts about being an expert on Islam but has never had a serious discussion with a Muslim or blasts us for doing nothing about soot, even though he's done nothing about it himself. This fellow has a serious case of Dunning-Kruger effect (i.e. too stupid to know how stupid he is - it's incurable). My advice: take a nice long holiday and read some Sufi poetry.
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    Islam in the West

    Sorry Pro, I'm another ignorant buffoon - I apologise - maybe I'm still in shock after Monday's game, but I've re-read your post and I still can't follow your line of reasoning. There we were, having a nice friendly argument about Islam in the West and then suddenly you throw in this stuff about soot. I mean - I'm as worried about pollution as the next person (in fact, when it comes to health effects from coal-burning fires I suspect I'm more experienced than you - I've spent a couple of years in China - studied in Beijing for a year in the early 80s - my god, the pollution from those coal stoves - we'd go for an evening stroll through the hutongs and come back with our faces ((and lungs, I presume)) covered in black soot - we've been back quite a few times - things still bad) So when I saw that initial UN report I was glad it was getting coverage and it reinforced my belief in alternative energy. But I don't see how it ties into the discussion we were having. Let's try a hypothetical. Say, we're having a discussion about a topic close to your heart - about, oh, I don't know - the terrible casualty rates among American Neo-nazis accidentally shooting themselves - you naturally, would think this was a disaster we should all be worried about whereas I wouldn't be too fussed. Now suppose you were winning the argument and I suddenly threw in something like: "Well you obviously don't care about the shot Nazis - there are 200,000 people killed in traffic accidents in India! What are you doing about that!" Can you see what I'm getting at? You'd be a bit nonplussed, wouldn't you? There are terrible things happening everywhere. We can't discuss them all at simultaneously. So if you really want me to follow your argument, you'll have to explain it more clearly.
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    Islam in the West

    Yoicks - Wrecker - not happy to see you getting involved. You're smarter than the rest of the conservatives on this site put together. That's a clever, if biased, explanation you gave, but it still doesn't answer my question. Pro keeps denigrating us, saying we're committed to a "side". whereas he's committed to a "cause". What's the diff? I'd have thought we were both just coming at the issue from our respective angles. Re your comment about facts - again, I don't get it. I asked Pro for facts (example, the number of kids killed in the Iraq invasion) and all he says is he couldn't care less. I looked at that supposed survey of Muslim women and could find no facts in it at all, just unsubstantiated generalisations.
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    Islam in the West

    Hi Earl - it's a tricky business, trying to have a rational conversation with Pro. You think you see what he's getting at, then he throws in soot. His latest thing seems to be that - what is it? he's arguing for "a cause" and we're arguing for "a side". What's the diff?
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