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    Draft Needs Analysis

    Spot on. Already using 3/40 odd spots on predominantly single position players in Gawn, Preuss and Bradtke. Having Bradtke not on the regular list looks like the perfect combination to me. I reckon every club rolls the dice that they won’t have their first and second choice rucks go down injured and if they do they will have to improvise. Tim Smith or Sam Frost would have to do in a pinch if Weideman (who rucked lots in the VFL) and T.Mc won’t be risked, but with a very different ruck strategy than what you’d have with a potentially dominant Gawn or Preuss. We had a preview in 2017 when Gawn and Spencer went down and things were cobbled together with Pedersen, Watts and T.Mc. I agree the mid year draft allows for more contingency in case of a significant early season ruck injury.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Have heard similar.
  3. Or we will see 23 and/or 28 flipped for some established “filling a need” players. There is so much that happens with draft order once you get past around pick 15 - even more so now with live pick trading during the draft - I doubt moving up from mid 30s to late 20s is about a specific player.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Agree. The war is the premiership. The battle is the trade period. A single trade is an engagement. So long as everything is driving to winning the war the other parts don’t matter in isolation. Who knows if we have the right strategy. Time will tell.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    If it facilitates the next moves, that’s all that matters. See what happens with 23 before passing judgement.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Melbourne won’t cave on 11 unless GCS would accept it. Pick 6 or 11 is irrelevant for Melbourne, it’s about facilitating May and KK deal. Hogan is still contracted for 2019 so Melbourne can sit tight and not agree to trade as that outcome is still palatable. This is precisely why this is the year to trade him if it’s going to happen.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    While egos might get bruised, this should not be viewed as just Melb vs. Freo. It’s overall outcomes. I think Freo have done well. GCS have given up quite a bit. Melbourne have moved one player out and replaced with two that fill big gaps in the team. Add on the intangibles and information we aren’t privy to around Hogan and I suspect Mahoney and co. would be pretty happy. Especially if there’s also pick 23 in there that is exactly the type of pick Melbourne offloads for ready made gap filler players. Simplistically this could end up +3 players that address gaps for a 2019 flag tilt, for the cost of a player who has emotionally checked out of the club and not able to be retained and Melbourne have coped quite well in the past when absent.
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    Rumour File

    Tough Kolodjashnij?
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    Farewell Dom Tyson

    It looks to me like the list management team have a firm goal which is build a list that has depth of types of players who are fit role types of roles - and there are some types of players that are missing key attributes for the broader playing style brand of contested footy. The strategy looks like: A) value relatively known quantity players that fit a need higher than haggling over draft pick positions give or take (within reason, I’m sure Taylor’s view on likely available talent is part of the picture and it’s a different in the top 10 where elite juniors are) B) if a player is surplus to depth, or there are equivalent other options (e.g. state league prospects) instead that are cheaper, extract value for those players by trading them C) if a player is not quite right because they aren’t contested enough or have other fatal flaws for the “brand” or there are personality issues, delist or trade them and give an opportunity to someone else Preuss is an A) as were Melksham and Hibberd. Tyson is a B) and you could argue they have decided Hogan is also a B. Watts and Bugg are C) and in hindsight re-signing Garlett might have been a departure from strategy and an error. And of course Melbourne’s don’t hold all the cards so a St. Kilda can upset things by offering Kent more security, and surprise opportunities may present themselves and need consideration (e.g. Lewis, move up the draft order near the start by helping a club with volume of lower draft picks for academy or father-son prospects). Obvious gaps we as fans could identify prior to trade period are a ruckman, reliable 1on1 tall defender, and outside pace and polish. Every rumoured move Melbourne are initiating appears to be driving towards those things and is giving up something that can be covered through existing players, or not much perceived value (e.g. some mid to later order draft picks or pick downgrades). I’m not saying the goal or strategy is correct, but for the most part their actions have been consistently aligned with this. So we might look at a deal and think “We got unders and gave overs” but I doubt the Demons are thinking that if it fits with their strategy.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    What good would an extension be? He is under contract now and it clearly didn’t make the trade speculation go away! Even if the argument is there would be an extension would mean less chance of noise through the year, given this turn of events, I suspect there will forever be noise with Hogan until such time he does return to WA.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    My recollection of Petterd was GCS were looking to sign him as a straight uncontracted player as part of their start up list so that was more potential poaching rather than trading. It also could’ve just been the media connecting any player recruiter from local Gold Coast clubs with GCS irrespective of what was really happening.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Matthew warnock (some time ago now). Close on Howe but it fell through because Howe didn’t want to go. Pick swap and upgrade in 2015 to get Oliver and Weideman. Some history, but as pointed out by another poster there has been turnover at GCS footy department so that could’ve reset any historic goodwill.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    The smart clubs tend to knock off bits and pieces trades as soon as practical so they can move on to the next deal. For that reason I expect the KK trade not get mixed in with May simply to make it cleaner given the sequence of events that would need to occur for May to be a possibility (Brisbane and Freo agree on Neale, Melbourne and Freo agree on Hogan, Melbourne and GC agree on May including KK). All three of those planks have risk of falling through or taking a bit of posturing time so you wouldn’t want to rely on that happening to land KK. Melbourne and GC have some reasonable trading history and I suspect goodwill so I wouldn’t be surprised if Melbourne can get KK for unders as a stand alone early based on that.
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    Farewell Dean Kent

    I didn’t see Kent or VDB either. Mitch King, Bugg and Pedo I definitely saw. Hogan was on a table that appeared to be for those without partners along with Bugg and Garlett and a whole heap of blokes I didn’t recognise (maybe Casey players?).
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    You’re right, so that puts his free agency eligibility out to end of 2021 which is even better for Melbourne.
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