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  1. Great post 'ignition'....
  2. Mason Cox has size but no football IQ 'MadAsHell'....Keilty would get smashed by any half reasonable AFL ruckman and that's not running him down it's just he would be outsized and outclassed by a player also more experienced in the position... For his own career sake I hope they give him a couple of seasons to develop, recruit the right players and allow Dec to go back and see if he can make it as a defender.
  3. This is the point I made in the original post. It's the overall composition of our list that's a problem... All the talk of not using Watts as a relief ruck following last season by Mahoney and co came to nothing after the draft trade period when it was obvious that that is exactly what he was going to be doing again this year. We drafted/traded mid size flankers and a development ruck kid.
  4. You're arguing for the sake of it 'titan'. Most other teams have better ruck coverage than us as other posters have pointed out. Minson, Hannath, Cameron, Petrie for a start. Spencer is not a protected species, Minson creamed him in the VFL GF....he has been handed the number 2 slot with no competition. My original post was about more than our current ruck problem. It's a list balance problem I believe. Apart from Max and Spence (and the 2 kids) we have no tall (in current football terms) KPP's...we have Watts at 196cm and the rest 193cm to 195cm... Despite 'titans' protestations, other clubs have coverage and can throw their KPP's into the ruck if need be. Boyd at the dogs, Roughead at the dogs, Daniher at EFC...the list goes on. They have 200cm KPP's who can give a chop out or take the role if need be. ..by the way Goody is looking for a left field solution but is hamstrung by the lack of height at the club. Pedersen at 193/194 will get absolutely flogged if we bring him in as our number 1 man. Forget what Max says, I'm not sure he raved but was backing up a teammate as you would expect. There were better options out there, some named above who would have walked into the number 2 slot. How did the great knock ruckman go against Freo, battled and he was struggling before injury on Monday night. Given our list overall, we went into this season light on in the ruck division. If you can't see that....
  5. Sorry but he will never be an option as a ruck at AFL level...his best chance really is in defence. I know they've been using him forward and in the ruck at Casey but I think they are playing him out of position...
  6. To old now...pity, he's a great player but I wouldn't be trading for him unless it was a Lewis deal or we could take him as a free agent.
  7. I think Smith could be a beauty.... Salem is better off up the ground, the rest more likely o be depth. Jeffy, not the answer long term and way too hot and cold. JKH is not quick enough for his size and will be depth at best. I would look to trade Kent to WC, would suit them beautifully...down hill skier.
  8. Petracca is the only one I rate, and he's more a mid sized forward than small.
  9. No, we don't have 2 of the premier mids in the comp.... We have been caught out, we took a punt and we've come unstuck. I don't like taking punts with list management, we are not in the position to do it. Not one 'A' grader amongst them. Hibberd close and Hunt on the way...
  10. Our ruck stocks are not the same as those you have mentioned. Jenkins at 200cm and Lobb at 207cm are a bit different to Watts at 196cm, as for Geelong their rucks haven't been great since Ottens retired but Selwood and Danger give them a bit of an equaliser... Lycett was injured in pre season after the lists were settled...WC were better stocked up and took extra insurance with Petrie and Vardy, we didn't...
  11. My criticism of him is if he is going to go up in the contest he's got to take the right option and put his stamp on it. A big one last night when he flew about 3 deep for a mark, he needed to get a good fist into it. We had players forward of the contest to clean up, it got over the back to theirs...
  12. It was a known fact that King was injured so of course you can plan for that.
  13. Disagree, there were a few on here that were concerned about a ruck deficiency before the start of the season. That's not hindsight, it's foresight and what our list management people are paid for. ...and as I pointed out, our lack of height around the ground means we don't have the luxury of using KPP in the ruck. Watts at 196cm is our tallest KPP. As 'Red' says, we took a punt and it came unstuck.
  14. Fake news is very much alive in the sporting industry. I guess I've become more aware of it as of late. The narrative is built around cash & not analysis. The Tiges sell as do Collinnnnwood. The fawning over the Pies and their first Q against bottom of the ladder Swans was all about keeping their fans on side and watching. The story not told was the Swans didn't turn up. It was embarrassing 'Red'. Same thing last night...selling hope to a deluded bunch of Tiges supporters will keep the tills ticking over.
  15. We've lauded the work of Jason Taylor & the recruiting team and love the regeneration of the club under PJ & Roos but what about our list management. Last year we recruited an EFC player with possible sanctions hanging over him, unfortunately that decision left us one down on the list. Luckily we had a good run with injury & it didn't really hurt us. We got rid of one problem child & took on another (the prince) who then retired leaving us again one down on the list...this one has hurt us. We have a list deficiency & this is not a hindsight call. It was obvious to many of us that we were light on in the ruck division. Max was carrying the load but had been injury prone. Big Jake gives his all but was/is a battler and has also struggled with injury...we then had King who was recovering from a knee and had only played minutes at VFL level and recruited a kid who is not ready for VFL footy let alone AFL. Our current ruck predicament was predictable and we didn't take out insurance. Someone like Minson would be very handy about now. Being one list position short hasn't helped but also not using a rookie spot for insurance has hurt. What also hasn't helped us is we don't have any tall key position players who could go into the ruck and give a contest. Watts has battled manfully and many have called for Pedders to come and or Frost to take over. Watts 196cm, Pedders 193cm, Frost 194cm, Weid 195cm, Hogan 195cm, Tommy Mc 194cm.... The Dogs didn't need to use Minson as they had key position players in Boyd and Roughead at 200cm and another in Campbell. A lot will point to a lack of outside run & class but I think we can cover that. To me we lack good adaptable talls...and insurance. The luck is not running with us this year but we also haven't done ourselves any favours with list decisions.