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  1. Let me use 2 examples: I once stole a picnic bar from a milk bar when I was 12. The store owner saw me and ran after me until she gave up. A crime was committed, but no charge no report. It still happened. This sums up the #metoo movement. It happens, but people don't speak up enough and just accept it. Second scenario. in that same scenario, the Milk bar owner calls the cops to make a statement. The cops tell her, there isn't much we can do. There's no footage, it's your word against his. This sums up the Bali incident. now let's replace me stealing a picnic bar with groping, sexually assaulting and a bunch of other vulgar terms. Let's assume there was no media. No one would hear about it. No "facts". Sooooo let's defend the "alleged" perpetrator. We're never going to find out the "facts". I know there can be false claims. I know I'm sounding self righteous right now. I'm doing so because I can easily count over 10 of my friends who have been groped, raped, drugged who haven't spoken up about it due to being horrified at the responses of "your skirt was really short" or "you shouldn't have drunk that much" or "why didn't you push him away". Or..."you had a lot to drink, are you sure that your memory is right? Make sure you get the FACTs right." This is the last I'll post on this topic. I just feel people need to think about the likelihoods. This girl may have come forward in private about seeing what can be done about an incident overseas to hang some player out to dry and made it all up. She also could have been sexually assaulted. Which do you think is the more likely?
  2. Lol. Oh dear. because the lives of women have never been ruined by men have they? Or gone unnoticed or uncharged. I think the pay gap between genders is a simple example of women's lives STILL being ruined by men.
  3. That is correct. Just ponder this question... under what circumstances would you or any person for that matter go and make a report of such things? To put your own name out there under such circumstances requires courage. There is nothing good that comes for the girl to report this and have the media attention. None whatsoever. That is why I take her word immediately and place more weight on it than presuming the innocence of a footy player. again, personal opinion only. And everyone is entitled to their view.
  4. While I can understand your view. The only fact I need to know is a girl has come forward that she believes she has been sexually assaulted. You don't need to have sympathy, although maybe try some empathy. What would she be feeling? What would she be going through. I'm not saying any player is guilty or not guilty. Just that this person feels she has been violated. That is fact.
  5. Let's just hope the person making the allegations is ok. Can't imagine the pain or trauma someone goes through when something like this occurs. Whether guilty or innocent, they felt the need to come forward. Hope the club and Afl ensure her wellbeing is the number 1 priority. everyhing else is second
  6. The Ox and Marko sacked by SEN

    I dunno. I loved the Ox on SEN. But at the same time, its a contract. The contract expired. Putting the human side into it, if they knew they were going to get rid of them, surely give them time to farewell their loyal listeners properly.
  7. MFC Advent Calendar

    Where's the chocolate?
  8. Farewell Jack Watts

    I just want to highlight players that were around before the Roos era who were traded/delisted etc and the outcomes of them since leaving the club. 2013 Delisted - Tynan, Sellar, Davis, Gillies, Couch, Magner, Stark, Taggert - None playing 2014 Traded - Mitch Clark - Retired, no impact Delisted - Blease, Strauss, Westrup, Nicholson, Clisby, Georgiou, Tapscott - None Playing 2015 Traded - Jeremy Howe - ok, Toumpas - no impact, Fitzpatrick - no impact Delisted - Bail, Mckenzie, Riley, Michie - None Playing 2016 Traded - Dunn - ok Delisted - Grimes, Jones, Terlich, Dawes, Michie, Newton - None Playing 2017 .... I would argue of every single trade or delisting has been 100% spot on. I see Jeremy Howe being the only one that would be in our best 30 players now. Am I concerned about Watts leaving and it coming back to bite us? Not one little bit. 100% trust in this administration. Could it have been handled better? Probably. In my experience, relationship break ups are hard and there are often things said and done that could be done better. No different here. But, rest assured, this is better for the MFC.
  9. Farewell Jack Watts

    Not many left from 186... If Garland retires...I think it leaves Jones, Tmac and Gawn who were on the list at the time 186 was played...
  10. Farewell Jack Watts

    My 2 cents: For those saying this is all "Goodwin", and Roos got the most out of Watts etc. Sure, that may be true, but so what? It's Goodwin's team now. He can shape the list how he sees fit. We don't talk negatively about Roos bringing on board Michie, Riley, Kennedy et al. We just go with it. Roos has been great with culture absolutely. He has only won 1 premiership as a coach. With Goodwin, he's a premiership player x 2, a captain of a footy club and a natural leader. I back him in knowing what it takes to build a premiership list. To Watts. Yes he's loyal, and a great club man. Yes he has skill. These types of individuals definitely have their place in any club and have great benefit. What he simply lacks is his drive or ambition to do what it takes to be the best. In the past, this may have been enough, but with the professionalism of AFL now, it simply is not. I use Trent Cotchin as an example this year. Previously I would have put Cotchin in Watts category. Nice, polite, and skillful. This year he pushed himself to the next level. His desire to get "dirty" and put his body on the line really showed. I'm yet to see this in Watts. There was a post comparing stats earlier about Watts and Lynch. That is quite damning. Something that we don't have stats for, which would essentially find Watts out in my opinion is the number of times his marking contests brought the ball to ground when he didn't mark it. Our game plan is if we can't mark it in the fwd 50, to bring it to ground and trap it in our forward 50. When Watts didn't do this during the year on several occasions, it led to a transition and goal or score down the other end quite often. It releases the pressure both implied and scoreboard and kills momentum. Long story short, it's clear that when we make finals next year, Goodwin simply doesn't feel confident in picking Watts as he's not sure which Watts he would be getting. Thus...he's a liability.
  11. Umpiring of MFC games very questionable

    I think you mean a final decided by two players from opposing teams. One that gave a high tackle in the forward 50, and the other being the player that kicked the goal.
  12. Opponent in finals

    Yeah we're definitely not there. Stating the obvious, but we need to beat the pies. Coming into Sunday twilight game, Ade has a high chance they have top spot sewn up. They'd go in bruise free away from home. WCE with everything to play for and on their home deck, could easily win by 20-40 points. I bloody hope we come to play.
  13. The Jack Trengove is BACK Thread

    Did he do enough today? Thought he did some good things. Got exposed on the spread by Boak though. Reckon he's in again next week...then when Bernie comes back...going to be interesting. Hope he puts in a blinder next week to make it tough for selectors.

    Heart still thumping. Nev is a god. As is clarry and tmac. Footy has a funny way of balancing out. We lost a couple of games where injuries really took their toll (Geelong and Richmond). Today it's evened out in my opinion. Entire 2nd half with the blues 2 players down. I'll take it. thought Kent struggled. A few time he just wasn't clean. Boy was Jesse rusty. Smith will be better for the run. He's a great find. Stretch I don't think will make it in the end (hope I'm wrong). Melksham needs to stop whinging when he feels there is a free kick. I saw maybe 2-3 times after a contest he just stopped and didn't chase. Not what we need.