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  1. praha

    Grand Final Nearest Pin Comp

    Hate to say it but can't see Collingwood losing. Pies by 17 FG: Darling NS: Howe (yeah I went there) If Pies win, you can bet one of their defenders will nab norm smith.
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    Who did the Pies beat to secure top 4?

    Both Melbourne and Collingwood stand to have tough draws next season whereas the likes of North, Adelaide will [censored] it in with 15+ games against non-finalists. 2019 stands as our true test. Collingwood's too (even if they win today)
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Of course but i think it is bigger now than him being contracted, or a "player". if you're not motivated by the environment or your motivation lies elsewhere, it always falls down on management and stakeholders to find a way to motivate and instill belief. imposing rules or contractual obligations never works because no organisation in their right mind keeps someone around who doesn't want to be there. it's not just in football. the contractual element in sport is less about putting an explicit time window on the minimum obligation a player has: it is a safeguard for teams that, should the contract need to be altered, they have bargaining power. it's extremely rare that a contracted player that wishes to leave the team their contracted to doesn't have their wish fulfulled. I cringe when I hear teams say "they are a contracted player". The contract serves to protect the player's earning capacity first and foremost. If Hogan wishes to move, first intent is to ensure he is fully aware of how important he is. Beyond that, I believe the team has an obligation to him, fans and the team environment to get the best possible outcome in a trade.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    My thoughts after some reflection: He was adament to stay and be part of something great. Getting injured and missing finals has changed his perspective. A young kid has seen his colleagues succeed without him. It can be demoralizing and can impact your own self worth. It happens to all of us. I am not the least bit surprised by this if it's all true. This stands as an important test for this regime. Scully felt he didn't belong. Then money weighed in. I don't think money is as big an allure for Hogan: he is getting the coin whether he stays or goes. The test for the club is to highlight to Hogan how important he is. To sit on the sidelines after being through so much, and to miss the excitement of finals...that must have really affected him. We need some perspective here. It is not about playing hardball. Or rejecting his request. It is about ensuring Hogan is mentally able to understand how important he is. We know he is a strong kid after what he has been through. But I feel his missing finals was kind of the cherry on top of a horrid 24 months. That he still kicked 80+ goals in that period is truly amazing. Club and fans need to get around him and let him know how important he is. Tell him on instagram. Don't be all "woe is me, please don't leave Hoges!" Give him support and tell him he's a star. These kids are so aggressively scrutinise in the social media era. We need to turn it around and make him one of us. We can't lose this kid.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    A sign and trade with Gaff for Hogan.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    could be drummed up to prompted a larger contract extension from Melbourne. I suspect we will hear otherwise in fhe next 24-48 hours. Either it was be confirmed or he will flat out deny it. I'm guessing the former.
  7. Good. He has unfinished business.
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    Brownlow Medal 2018

    Doubt it. Grundy imo was set to poll more because he won more of the ball. Ruckman just don't poll well. Gawn did superbly to get as much as he did.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    I don't think the club is seeking a trade. But if he is open to a move and the club would benefit of course they're doing it.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Freo doesn't have the chips here.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    One need not have logic in Demonland trade proposals, James.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    That's not what was proposed. Read it again. If Hogan is worth two first round picks, it goes without saying that a top 2 pick + a player taken at top 2 LAST YEAR is effectively the same.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    Lose Hogan, gain pick. Pick to WC + JKH + Tyson for Gaff in sign and Trade. Win win lol AND we pipe Norf. Would be Buddy-esque in its snubbery.
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    Farewell Jesse Hogan

    If we're going to lose him, best it be now. We stand to benefit greatly. May + Brayshaw would be an amazing get.
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    St Kilda

    Those two loses to Carlton in 06 were bloody infuriating and in hindsight a look into the future for the next decade. Fancy giving a 3-win team 2 of their wins for the season! fmd.
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    2019 Membership

    To let them know you're actually going to use the ticket.
  17. Then how have we persuaded a ruck that has been complaining about no game time to join us? He's gotta be worked in.
  18. Streuss would likely player the other tall anyway, leaving Gawn to drop back into defense.
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    Optus Stadium

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    Post Match Discussion - Preliminary Final

    I highly doubt they're ever going to talk about a goalless half in one game. It was a symptom of a poor half. No one seems to be talking about that stat outside of Melbourne supporters and hyperbolic editors looking for a headline. It is so irrelevant in the grander scheme of things. IMO Richmond looked no more likely to score in the first half on Friday than we did. One of our 6 shots goes through for a goal and it's not even mentioned. We would still have been losing by 10 goals. Do you see how pointless a stat it is?
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    Post Match Discussion - Preliminary Final

    No one gives a [censored] about that statistic mate. Pies scored 1.5 in a half vs Geelong in 2009. They lost by 80 points and then won the flag 12 months later.
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    Pies Gone Past Us ??

    The league wasn't anywhere near as even though. And Carlton got pounded in the first week of the finals and would have rightfully been eliminated in the current top 8 system. In fact the AFL changed the system for 2000 because of Adelaide and Carlton making the GF from outside the top 4 despite losing their first final (and getting thrashed mind you). Carlton had no place in that GF.
  23. I actually have found a lot of the hysteria bizarre. I'm not angry. Or disappointed. Nor proud or excited. I'm indifferent. It's a super tough league and we still have some way to go. All this talk of a fairytale was misplaced. Bulldogs and Richmond had both already played on the big stage. You just gotta expect them to compete and be thereabouts. You just gotta keep your expectations in check. You have a really good young core and 2 players who will likely place top 5 in the Brownlow. Two AA selections. Lever and Hogan to come in. Potentially May, and that ruckman from North. Goodwin to evolve as a coach. Viney to get better. Since round 23 2017 I have been completely indifferent, and that's allowed me to be calmer during the season, with a varied level of expectation. I expect us to beat teams like St Kilda. I get angry when we lose games like the ones against Geelong. Or round 4 vs Hawthorn. But I just can't be angry when we lose against West Coast in Perth in a Prelim. It was a poor performance, but that happens. They were exhausted, shellshocked, and bullied. It happens. Geelong beat Collingwood by 90 points in the 2009 Prelim. What happened in 2010? Perspective is also important. The season was somewhat lost to me after the Sydney game. We played great football after that, but I can't understand how no one could see Saturday coming. I hoped for better but also expected disappointment. That allowed me to deal with it better than some have. My family were clamouring and worrying about tickets to the GF. I lost my [censored] and got angry at them because we hadn't even made it yet. I get applying for the ballot and planning ahead, but there was this hysteria and "woe is me" at the prospect of missing out on a ticket. I literally told my sister to stfu and just look forward to the game on the weekend. Then we lost and she carried on like as if the sky was falling. Football is important to us all, and it's imperative in life to be part of something bigger than yourself. I never understood the mantra of some here who always said to keep perspective and understand that it's "just a game". You gotta find a balance between being involved emotionally, and being able to deal with the highs and lows with equal emotional investment. If you go overboard when they win, you will go overboard when they lose. Goodwin and Co know what they're doing but you just can't expect the world from them. If you do then you're setting up for disappointment.
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    Pies Gone Past Us ??

    Carlton 99.