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  1. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    I think on form Demonland wins hands down
  2. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    Haha yes maybe if he was yelling down the phone we'd have kicked a few more goals. FFS simpletons
  3. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    No I agree, you're preaching to the choir on this one. I'm a defence first guy as well. But I don't think that is the way we play now, so analysing us based on defensive mistakes can be a misleading IMO because our ability to execute offensively is more important. And we are clearly no where neat as good as the Hawks or Cats or Swans for that matter. One thing you could say about the OTC analysis from Roos that didn't point out was that for as many easy goals we conceded there was just as many easy goal opportunities we messed up..... Imagine how good we could be if we fix one issue or both.... And that's where Goody will be judged as an effective coach or not, is he able to make the adjustments to get the wins?
  4. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    I agree with the majority of your points We both have obviously seen the analysis on from Roos on Monday, but where you and I don't see eye to eye is you think that the defensive changes may have changed the result, but I personally don't, because I believe it depends on style and how the team plays the game. Please let me try explain....I don't claim to be any sort of expert, but my observation are as follows and to start by stating the obvious, Roos and Goodwin are very different style of coaches. Both are contested ball focused but Roos was defence first, where as Goodwin I believe is offense first and the pressure around the contest or ball is used to create turnovers etc. Our aim isn't to stop the other team scoring, it's to score more often then them. And if you look at the stats from the weekend we won enough of the ball to do that, but we couldn't execute because we turned the ball over too often, couldn't handle the conditions and the Hawks class and ball movement outside the contest is elite, whereas we are amateur at this and other teams know it. So when you're analysing our game style I think you need to accept we can't do everything, we don't have the talent to defend and attack. We are not good enough at the moment to be defensive like Sydney and counter attack. We simply don't have enough skilled players - I reckon our turnover stats will tell you that. So if we play that defensive mindset we don't score, just like the weekend where the hawks locked it in their forward line. Now like you and I saw on the video on the couch, some of those defensive errors were inexcusable and are clearly a big concern I am not ignoring. But we don't really know who made the errors or why they were made, and that kind of crap needs to be fixed asap. My discussion above is based on overall game stlye and not specific examples of play. So back to our overall discussion, what is the fundamental problem? Is it the game plan or the coach? I don't believe there is an easy answer to fix teams, otherwise every team would win every week if all you had to do was make a few fundamental changes to style or structure. But you could also be right, maybe that is what separates a good coach from a all time great premiership coach, knowing that subtle difference to get the results. In the end whether you agree or disagree with the game style, Goodwin isn't doing a bad job. But he will be judged by the results. We are 2 and 2 and have very winnable games coming up in the next 8 weeks plus some good players to come back. I will hold my fire on Goodwin and I encourage others to as well, although if people want to fly off the handle then so be it. But if hes a good coach he will fix the issues,.... and here is anther problem other good coaches know our problems like we know other clubs etc etc... It's about exploiting them as well. I digress, and a lot will get ignored anyway because on Demonland it's all about the individual result right now
  5. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    Agree with everything you wrote. And it was written very well. If i understand what you're saying the question is when we will improve to become an elite team? Because it's obvious at rd 5 we haven't taken that step as yet... I don't know the answer but a couple of observations ive made so far. The hawks and cats smashed us on the outside of the contest. We are not a good ball movement side. We rely on winning the contest and clearances to score. And we lack leg speed and class on the outside atm to compete and put on adequate around the ground. It could be argued the older guys are hurting us with their lack of speed. But if we drop say Lewis and Vince we risk lacking experience. Do we just wait paitently like the tigers from 2010 - 2016 until it just clicks? The other problem is we've leaked goals way too easily. It will take someone with a good eye and knowledge how we fixed it in games last year. I will be watching with interest over the next few weeks what adjustments defensively are made. Because its obvious with out frunt like viney playing the boys have found it hard to be elite ball winners. But can anyone tell me.if we are an offensive or a defensive side? I personally think we are heavily focused on scoring now. We play a very offensive style. Maybe it needs to be tweaked? Or do we do what the cats did and commit to a style until the boys can play it for 4 qtrs? I dont think some people understand how tough going from being competitive to elite is. The mfc is not a basket case as it's made out in social media. We are still developing an identity or if we are to be that contested team only we are clearly lqcking the ability to consistently execute for 4 qtrs.
  6. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    Wor a load of bs. Some of u blokes need lives
  7. Post Match Discussion - Round 4

    It is a fair point SWYL, I accept that. I just don't like hysteria. You can say the exact same thing about Richmond, that they were "mentally fragile"". Years of under achievement, the it just clicked for them. And I'm no apologist, I believe we have massive issues with defence etc. But issues can be fixed. Round 4 is a little early for hysteria. We have some very winnable games by round 12, if at halfway we are negative win loss ration, I think big questions should and will be asked. Was it Tracc or someone said there were no excuses this year, so I expect them to get it right. But Demonland goes too far sometimes, people need to drop the emotions and think more.
  8. Post Match Discussion - Round 4

    Sounds like you need a holiday old fella
  9. SHUT UP I'M SICK OF THE NEGATIVITY

    We lost the game on the outside. Its been our biggest weakness for a fair few years now. If anyone wants to bag Goodwin, that's what it's about. Hawks outclassed us on the outside.
  10. Post Match Discussion - Round 4

    And that affected this game how?
  11. Post Match Discussion - Round 4

    'No one plays finals in rd 5
  12. Post Match Discussion - Round 4

    I agree, Rather then the boring post game analysis I want this.... Love pop.... Goody make it happen. Also pop sums up our day pretty accurately
  13. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    Maybe... Or maybe most pundits don't know what they're talking about. Jury is out on Goody I don't care if you guys bag him, but I will try bring some fairness and have a bit of fun Big test for him up to round 13 though, he'd want to win the majority in the next 8 games. Some very winnable games there. We are (supporters) jumping the gun, but I guess that's society today.
  14. Is Goodwin the right guy....

    I have in uncle whos a Hawk supporter that was adamant Clarkson wasn't a good coach either.
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