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  1. Well my brain's fried trying to keep up... Sooooo...if we do do 'that deal' ...and then the other...meaning Out. Hogan In May KK Could some kind soul tell me how many spots we MUST fill ? Is it at all probability a rookie upgrade might account for 1 ..even 2 ? Rookie spots easy to fill... The list..I presume the draft but I've lost count of where we might end up here ( number of picks ) Time for a drink... we know ... it's early....its Circus week
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    The No T$ No B$ Thread

    It explains everything ... and that which isn't....is understood
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    Thanks. No idea what or how they'll use it,only it's the OVERPAYMENT for May. Other players picks etc bound to be part of the change coming back.Theyre just my thoughts of course.
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    Admittedly its just possibly my read on the situation but I cant help but think a lot of folk are misconstruing the nature of pick 5 and May. Mahoney has been quite candid in saying we need the hogan trade in order to get May..There after everyone , bar a few simply assume pick 5 is THE price for May. Its not how I read it at all. The Hogan trade delivers a goodly 1st pick ( and maybe change )..So for sake of argument lets call that pick 5. Yes pick % is INSTRUMENTAL in securing May as GC want that pick...but its not the price paid as such as I believe we will get more than May for 5 and there is probably still some trade off of picks as well. Pick 5 is part of the deal...not ALL of it...imho
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    A big problem I think in all of this is folk isolate a player and then somehow attempt a valuation. I see it differently.. Hogan is a forward...May is a back. I think we can all at least agree upon that. Here's where I diverge from the groupthink model. I see it as a comparison of effects. What does May added to our back arc do as compared Hogan being in the front arc ? Add May to Lever, Hibberd , Jetta, Oscar and say Salem... thats formidable...take out May...not so much...as dynamic reverts back to before...somewhat problematic Hogan in the fwd 50 with Tmac , Milkshake, Trac...any of Spargo... VDB etc etc...is also quite effective. Take out Hogan...put in Weed...or someone else..its still reasonably effective, and possibly not so mono-centric in nature of attack. So for mine the impact of May in far outweighs Hogan leaving Have a suspicion out FD sees it similarly.
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    it's simple...like breathing air really... Yet some struggle
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    Amazing so many just don't see this. Must be too busy collecting Scanlens cards .
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    I'm flummoxed to think that some would seriously think Mahoney still hasn't a few tricks left in the bag. If there's a master juggler of late pick swaps it's this guy.. I'll await the actual outcomes...not the fishwrapping.
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    It's close enough DC.... already got Xmas decos in the shops lol
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    The No T$ No B$ Thread

    I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with biscuits but this is certainly a more ( relatively ) sane thread than many others.( Who'd have thought ) The regulars would always attest to such but it takes the Circus coming to town to highlight it. A cup of tea...toasted banana bread with a serious [censored](really?... can't say k n o b .. lol ) of butter atop awaits. Bit wet today, can't see much building getting done. Might have to find another distraction.
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    I just want whatever deals we need done to suit our wanted outcomes. I'm not interested in the hystrionics , the spin , the bullshlt. I'm not particularly interested in screwing the other guys or taking their playlunch money. I don't care whether we LOOK good bad or whatever at trading as long as we actually get what we came for. Everyone else can muck around with the window dressing. It's irrelevant. It's not about winning trade week.. it's about successful outcomes for your/our club. What others end up doing is their preserve. Only one game you actually want to WIN.....it's in September.
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    Front of house Back of house One's for show One's for go
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    The thread that never sleeps
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    I meant what club.. but I get your gist.
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    Jesse Hogan Trade to Freo

    Freos stance was one. Supposedly our 2 Deal was always in the middle. I'm not sure our rhetoric was any more than that. The club wanted/wants a suitable outcome... whatever gets there is the required from Freo.
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