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  1. Gawn doesn't want to be a pushover

    There are ruckman whose main attribute is physical strength to hold position and resist opponents in static contests eg. Shane Mumford. Others rely on their combination of size, mobility and tank to be mobile and rely on timing and spring to attack contests. This is how I see Max. Dean Cox and Goldstein had this ability in their prime and so did Max in his AA year. Pushing and shoving in ruck contests does not often deliver clean supply to teammates but attacking the contest in motion allows for better quality supply. Attacking marking contests instead of standing still and fending off opponents is always preferable as it offers better chances of success. Go Max. Play your game.
  2. Has anyone considered that Jesse's responses are not a sign of petulance but of disappointment in himself? Classic petulant behavior includes failing to maintain interest in the contest. I have never observed Jesse show disinterest or lack of commitment to any contest. It should be no surprise that when he has to compete against 2 and 3 opponents for poorly delivered and placed balls that he expresses his disappointment. I would be disappointed too! He has shown the potential to lead us to success. Allow him to develop without the added burden of trivial criticism from those who should be his greatest supporters.
  3. Leadership Group

    Re Jack Watts. Players can be leaders in many different ways and not all of them are obvious or measured by being the best player or the most determined or the most courageous or the most personable and expressive. There are leadership skills that can lift the morale and spirit in a team without there being any overt act by the leader. There were many times in the past where Jack showed another form of on-field leadership. He was "papa bear" who would hand out pats on the back or on the head of, especially, younger players who had made a valuable contribution to the team such as coring or defending. The same players would often run to him for his acknowledgement of a valuable act. I recall David Schwarz filling the same role even when David Neitz was captain. The immediate recognition from a senior player can often be more important than kudos at breaks. Let's be kind to Jack - he might not have been the player that we expected (fairly or unfairly) but he made a major contribution to our team with his understated on-field leadership. I wish both Jacks (Watts and Trengove) personal (not team) success at PA.
  4. Leadership Group

    If the AFL is to change the rules for runners, then the structure of the leadership group should be re-considered. Fewer messages from runners will places a greater burden on the on-field leaders to make critical decisions on structure and balance eg. to defend a small lead, zoning at kick ins, during the game.. We should identify on-field leaders and empower them with the authority to make decisions. While Jones and Viney are locks as co-captains to toss the coin and lead by example, who would be able to make good tactical decisions when needed? Apart from Lewis who was recruited to fill that rol and Hogan who has remarkable football smarts for such a young player, I can't see anyone else that stands out. I am confident that the FD will make the right choices and they might not be the from among the usual suspects.
  5. Preseason Training Week commencing - 05/02/18

    OMac has much more potential than LRT ever had. Just be patient as he develops. Frost is bigger, stronger and faster than Sean Wight was and could, if coached well, become an outstanding 60-80m ball carrier rapidly transitioning from defence to attack. Imagine if our forwards were trained to respond to his play. Our dearly beloved and missed Sean was brilliant in his own way.
  6. Preseason Training Week commencing - 05/02/18

    I hope that Max's improved aerobic capacity will allow him to get to the next ruck of marking contest faster than his lumbering opponents and get the best position and not be dissipated chasing midgets. A 210cm tall skillful, mobile, marking and potentially dominating ruckman is a precious and rare commodity and he should be served by his teammates.
  7. Preseason Training Week commencing - 05/02/18

    Except for the most unusual circumstances, if Max has to chase a medium sized player like Selwood it is only because his teammates have let him down. He doesn't expect them to ruck and so they should not expect him to rove. When Max rests forward, it is not to play like Jeffie but to stretch the opposition with his height and marking ability and create a mismatch to our advantage. If, as Saty says, he might surprise us with his skills at ground level, then it will be a bonus, not the main game.
  8. Preseason Training Week commencing - 05/02/18

    Re Roos coaching. In 2005 he built a defensive structure and game plan around Roberts-Thompson at CHB who was generally considered to be a fringe player at best. His only task was to stop his opponents from getting clean possession and then it was up to his team mates to clean up. He succeeded so well that Sydney won the flag and LRT was seriously considered by many good judges to have been a candidate for the Norm Smith medal. Of all of Roos' coaching achievements, this was his best. Each player has a role based on his particular ability and it's up to the coach to identify and define that rol and make it work for the team.
  9. Time to ditch the Runner

    Traditionally, the role of the runners has been to pass instructions from the coach to the players, typically on position changes, match ups and not much more. With the number of interchanges, inspirational (or critical) messages to players, position changes and changes to match ups can be implemented when swapping players. On field leadership group should be encouraged and authorised to make minor changes eg. stacking the defence in close matches, setting up zones. Allow runners but only to signal to players to interchange and give the umpires the power to remove runners who remain stationary for longer than it takes to deliver a message.
  10. Preseason Training Week commencing - 05/02/18

    The past two premiership coaches have built a structure and a game plan on the resources at hand. We can speculate on our structure and game plan but I suspect that it will depend on the availability, form and fitness of the players. What is different for the dees this year is that, with our flexible list comprising talls and shorts, inners and outers, attackers and defenders, runners and blockers, deliverers and receivers and many multi adaptable players, there are many different combinations that can be tested and used. The final structure for both the doggies and tiges did not become apparent until the finals arrived. Let's be patient and not get fixated on a "preferred" structure and let it evolve. That we will have numerous options and possibilities is a plus. The ultimate goal is to find a structure and game plan that our opposition can't counter.
  11. Of course fitness and form are important but there are also, among other criteria, match ups, team balance, plugging holes, filling roles, experimenting and forward/future planning. Add to this the coaches assessment of what form at lower grades really means. It is not right or fair to imply that coaches seemingly play favourites without a good underlining reason. Perhaps we are not capable of knowing.
  12. OMac is progressing nicely. He seems to suffer here because he is not what he expected to be. So ******* what. Not everyone can be, or needs to be, a backline gorilla, an intercept maestro or a slingshot. Steady and effective will do for me. He gets to a contest, he is learning how to position himself to advantage at the contest, he regularly outmarks his opponent and has the potential to make good choices. Just a young, developing player for the future.
  13. Saty, where is Hunt? Training with the backs presumably but what a dynamic midfielder if used in bursts. There is no need to "rank" the players in our midfield rotation. Apart from maybe Clarrie, there is not a drastic drop of in ability and none of them is considered a dependable "matchwinner" unlike the Cats who drop off rapidly after Danger and Selwood or the Tiges who rely too much on Dust). Worked in 2017 but can it keep working. They will play as a unit that is able to share the load and maintain constant and consistent pressure on other teams' midfields. Overwhelm by weight of numbers. What if we played Hogan at CHF, Omac (or Frost or Lever) at CHB and Max in the ruck as the three talls in a structure with nine rotating midfielders - ie 2 HBF, 2 wings, 2 HFF and three in the square. In fact, Frost and Lever have the speed and stamina to also play as burst midfielders. Let's swarm all over the opposition and keep them guessing.
  14. Favourites can mean players who the coach, unlike us, believes can perform to the required standard. To commit a heresy, there have been times when I thought that Jack Viney was not performing to his best standard. Obviously, the coaches thought otherwise as he has been highly placed in the B&F. Let's accept that they are looking for something else and that our perceptions are different.
  15. Has there ever been another way to select a team? The coaches know what they expect and, in many cases, it can be different to what we expect. I am happy to leave selection and roles to Goody. Otherwise, it messes with my mind. Go dees.