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  1. This was a 2 week penalty (i.e. 1 with a guilty plea) that was increased to a 3 week penalty because of his bad record. Completely fair. The real problem is that Martin's strike was deemed "careless" and not "intentional".
  2. Yet again, I am embarrassed to be a Melbourne supporter when fellow supporters post some of the stuff I'm reading in this thread.
  3. What's the bet the MRP decides Martin's strike was of insufficient force and he doesn't cop a week?
  4. Sydney, Port, Richmond, West Coast, Essendon and the Dogs all won this week, which doesn't help us. St Kilda losing does, though, and they are a good chance of losing their next two as well, and falling to 9-9. Beating Port will make a huge difference to our finals chances.
  5. Haven't seen anything other than the highlights (which for some stupid reason don't include Hunt's torp). It seems that, from the stats and the comments from some on here, we competed well in the middle and at the contest but lacked class and finish when going inside 50, resulting in too many turnovers and easy transition for Adelaide. Given we we playing off our fourth 6-day break in 5 weeks, and we were missing Jones, Viney, Salem, Watts and Tyson, and had a stack of NQRs and players returning from long backs in the side to replace them, the above description of the game makes perfect sense to me. Granted, I haven't seen the mistakes of players like Frost, Melksham, OMac and Kent that are being discussed but surely the circumstances make the performance at least understandable. No doubt for mine the most disappointing thing is Vince surely getting suspended for that elbow on Betts. Absolute rubbish from him. Terrible season and I'm not convinced he's best 22 right now. Getting Watts, Tyson and maybe Viney back next week is going to help considerably. If we lost to Port we have to bank the North, St Kilda, Brisbane and Collingwood games to make finals and given our recent form against North and St Kilda, I don't like the prospect of doing that. A win against Port takes a huge amount of pressure off us.
  6. Having the 4th highest average attendance is huge, IMO. It doesn't matter whether it's home or away that is driving that (our away games are obviously helping given we're 7th for average home attendance) - we get the 4th most people at the ground watching us play and that is exposure that is relevant to sponsorship and to the AFL when determining which clubs draw crowds. The fact we're 7th for home crowds despite having had the Alice Springs game is also pleading, I think. We still get more people to our home games than the Perth clubs, the Dogs, Geelong, Sydney, Hawthorn and St Kilda (as well as the Sydney clubs, the Queensland clubs and North, but those are less surprising). Edit: by way of interesting comparison (and a sign of the growth since PJ took over) - in 2013 the club played in front of 24,974 on average. This year we average playing in front of 42,070. That's a 68% increase. Edit 2: even last year we were only playing in front of 30,977 on average.
  7. I'd prefer to see what happens this year before making a call on the impact of the week off before finals. If the two teams who get the week off into the prelims then both lose their prelims, I'll support the argument that the week off before finals is diluting the benefit of finishing top 4. Until then, last year was an aberration.
  8. Where, exactly? (Sorry, I know this isn't a Forum Help thread).
  9. Indeed, but that of course assumes we beat North, as well as Brisbane and Collingwood. I can see an argument which says we beat one of Adelaide or GWS but still manage to lose to North. I'd like to see us win one of the Adelaide/Port games to take the pressure off the North game - if we lose both, we'll be on a 2 game losing streak and will have lost 3 from 4 going into that game, we'll be slipping down the ladder (if not already out of the 8) and the pressure will be right on us to win. Maybe that will spur us on to beat the Roos though.
  10. We are as likely, if not more, to miss the finals altogether than make the top 4. I'm confident, though, that so long as we finish in the top 8 we can do damage. We can win a final from 8th, even if we are on the road (6-1 away from the G this year and 3-0 interstate so far).
  11. We're going to turn it over from playing on too quickly because our aim is to play on as often as possible. It's always going to lead to the occasional error in judgment but by and large we look much better when we move the ball quickly and take the game on rather than sit behind the mark and let opposition sides flood back (especially teams like Carlton who are pretty good at it, too). Agree that we don't get behind the mark quickly enough but that problem is getting better as the year goes on and it's nowhere near as bad as previous years. As to the tackling I'm not convinced there is a long term issue there. We didn't have a great tackling day yesterday but it's not something that has been an ongoing issue and given we've consistently been ranked highly for "pressure acts" which measure tackles and our ability to pressure opponents without tackling, I'm not as concerned about that as I am about some other things (primarily the continued problem of too many players going up in defensive marking contests and too many turnovers by foot).
  12. I'm far more of a supporter of Lewis than Vogon or TGR but I find it funny how many people point to him getting ANB to pass him the ball in the final minute is proof that he's a star. It was absolutely a good piece of leadership from him but that on its own doesn't really do much to support the argument that he's adding much to the side. FWIW, I thought he played a lot better yesterday than in previous weeks. He had one abysmal turnover that reeked of a Vince-like lack of care, but he copped a lot of flak from not just the fans but the Carlton players, physically, and unlike last time he wore it properly and focused on getting the ball and playing a role as an inside midfielder which we sorely needed.
  13. I'm pretty angry about this. The Carlton coward has a crack at Oliver and then didn't like copping a response. What did he say, "touch me again and I'll kill you" - what, we all worry that Oliver would jump the fence and attack him? It's an admittedly aggressive response to a fl*g being aggressive towards him but it's wasn't racist, it wasn't sexist, it wasn't homophobic, and it was in response to being unnecessarily pushed/touched/shoved. I see no reason for Oliver to have to apologise which implies the coward deserved an apology of any kind.
  14. People calling for Hogan to be dropped are just the same old people who criticised him all through last year and early this year. It was his first game back, he was clearly rusty but not as bad as some are suggesting and he played a role, albeit not a stellar one - but as is the classic problem for Hogan, he set such a high bar early that his critics expect/demand him to dominate each week. Ridiculous calling for him to be dropped. Absolutely ridiculous. Sorry but no. Having said that, Melksham is playing a solid role at the moment and I don't see him being dropped (yet, anyway).
  15. 6 - Jetta 5 - TMac 4 - Oliver 3 - Frost 2 - Petracca 1 - ANB