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grazman last won the day on April 12 2015

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  1. Mahoney, get away

    How could anyone realistically know whether we paid 'overs' for Lever and accepted 'unders' for Jack. It's base on supporter expectations and not reality. Lever got to Melbourne, Jack got to the club he chose and the club got the deals done with a minimum of fuss. As Prodee said it's about reputation, if you want to be a destination club, it helps if you can get deals done. Compare that to the potential [censored] fight the Bulldogs have if they can't move Stringer on.
  2. Port the big winners in Trade Week?

    It's not what you paid, it's what you will pay. I actually think Rockliff is the biggest risk for Port. Fagan didn't fight to keep Rocky, just like we didn't fight to keep Col. Rockliff has knifed every coach he's ever played under and has a dubious off field attitude. He will need a strong leadership group and culture to keep him in line. How strong is Port's 'never tear us apart culture'? They were pretty tepid against really competitive sides last year and there are serious question marks about Boak's leadership. Some of their other senior players previous off field endeavours (Dixon) might well resurface if Rockliff is allowed to run his own race. Those spruiking the 'success' of Port's recruiting this year need to consider whether their predictions about what all three bring to Port's performance next year is a realistic appraisal based on their outputs at their previous clubs as opposed to heroic assumptions about them actually improving on what they've demonstrated as relatively senior players (unlikely in my view that Motlop becomes a more consistent player because he's settled with family, unlikely that Jack fulfils his potential released from the crippling burden of Melbourne supporters expectations now he's only worth pick 31 rather than Pick 1 and unlikely that Rockliff becomes a real leader rather than just a cultural turd).
  3. Farewell Jack Watts

    I doubt he'd agree to that, Geelong/Port he's a reasonable chance of playing in finals. Brisbane and Gold Coast not so much.
  4. Mahoney, get away

    I refute the entire premise of the thread as being based on pure speculation. We paid overs... meaning we could have got the same players/picks for less... which if you aren't part of the FD and aren't negotiating with rival clubs you know how?... or maybe we should be one of those clubs that just doesn't do any deals at all.
  5. I keep waiting for confirmation of what's happening with Leaver, but with the Free Agency period not closing until Sunday, maybe we have to wait to next week when it's confirmed Brisvegas actually have pick 19 to trade.
  6. Farewell Jack Watts

    Whether accidentally or deliberately I think you've hit at least one of the principal nails on the head here Junior. Will Jack Watts ever be great? I think if you look at the truly great players they help shape and drive the culture of the clubs that they are in. There are some notable exceptions, but most of them do. For me, Jack won't be 'great' and I'm not afraid to trade him on that basis.
  7. Farewell Jack Watts

    Thanks Spook, Many on here won't like it, but I don't think it's the worst deal in the world particularly as I think all our late picks will be earmarked for rookie upgrades anyway.
  8. Farewell Jack Watts

    There are a lot of opinions on here, to paraphrase an old saying I doubt Jack is as good or bad as many on here are making him out to be. It tends to remind me of the current US President - people aren't interested in the truth as much as they are in confirmation bias. It's why Fake News keeps getting a run. It's the most simplistic form of counter-narrative*. You don't need to worry about tiresome tasks like researching or thinking to refute arguments based on evidence and logic. You simply label something as being incompatible with what you choose to believe. It will usually strike a chord with a certain number of people who I'd like to think are the vocal minority, because fear is a greater driver than hope. * other than the age old 'I know you are, but what am I?' rebuttal.
  9. Farewell Jack Watts

    Is that what someone has told you or what you think will happen? News today that we're one of the clubs circling Zac Clarke so it would make sense we're after a back up ruck.
  10. Farewell Jack Watts

    Pffft...is that your best Trump impersonation?
  11. Farewell Jack Watts

    I carried a grudge against one of my employees at work. She wasn't performing. I had a performance meeting with her and directed her to do some things.... she didn't do them. Now she works somewhere else. Good result for me and my other employees and maybe for her as well (though I really don't care much).
  12. Farewell Jack Watts

    Obviously that stat doesn't include tackles then.
  13. 2017 Keith ‘Bluey’ Truscott Memorial Trophy

    Not as surprised as others were in regards to Viney finishing 2nd. He's one of our most influential players. When he doesn't play we simply aren't as good. His finish is also somewhat indicative of how he polled in the Brownlow. 1. Clayton Oliver (12 votes) =2. Tom McDonald (9) =2. Jack Viney (9) =4. Michael Hibberd (7) =4. Nathan Jones (7)
  14. Farewell Jack Watts

    Potential is such a dirty word. Whatever merits others may think that the pre-season commando courses might have, the aim of such things isn't just about bonding - its about getting individuals to understand their physical and mental limits. Will any individual reach their 'potential' if they just don't care enough. How did Watts go during preseason? We know he came back in less than ideal condition (not uncommon in clubs, but for a bloke entering his 9th season its not that common). One poster has already alluded to their being issues about Watts and his attitude on the preseason camp. I think his potential is more perception than reality. He may very well have a good season next year, but he has two years to run on his contract, not one.
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