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  1. Who plays in JLT v North Melbourne 24/2?

    Given both Jetta and Hibberd’s ability to compete in the air as a third-man up, I’d love an explanation from those who have selected all of Frost, O-Mac and Lever in the same backline? To me it makes little sense. Especially when one considers the way we play as a defensive zone. Rarely do we see any of our backmen have one-on-one lock-down roles for the entirety of a game. They’re often caught out in between opponents. One of the benefits of having defenders who possess elite intercept skills in a setup like ours is that we don’t need to rely on an overly tall backline. We have one of the most aggresive backline setups in the AFL. Jetta, Hibberd and Lever are elite intercept players. Oscar and Frost are not. I believe that Oscar and Frost should and will be competing for the same position. Thanks to the acquisition of Lever, I hope that it allows Oscar/Frost to play a more simplified role due to their inconsistencies as players. I feel comfortable if Frost or Oscar are playing on a key opposition forward knowing that we have one of Jetta, Hibberd or Lever to nearly always impact that contest as a third man. And by impact I mean kill the ball or win the contest. Frost and Oscar are not that player. Here’s hoping the coaches feel the same way come Round 1.
  2. Ollie Wines

    Non-story imo. I heard Tom McDonald say the same thing last contract. Perhaps the club has made a lowball offer, if anything.
  3. Demonland Supercoach 2018 Comp

    JimmyGadson thanks DeeVoted
  4. Current TAB odds Demons season 2018.

    We haven't played in final since 07. Everyone needs to [censored] calm their shiet.
  5. The Clash Jumper Poll 2018

    Agree wholeheartedly, especially with the bolded part.
  6. Preseason Training - Week commencing 11/12/17

    If I knew how (and could be bothered) to edit enough of his contests this year, it would clearly show how much of a liability he was in many games. There are four simple outcomes from a contested situation as a defender: 1 - Win it 2 - Halve it to create a reset in play. (Stoppage, throw-in etc). 3 - Have no impact. 4 - Lose it by making an error. (Turn-over, non-spoil attempt, positional error etc). This year, Oscar was clearly thrown in the deep-end and was ‘allowed’ to find his way due to our lack of talent and depth of key position players. That view is evidenced by our trade and draft period this year. His games were almost always full of 3’s with some scattered 4’s throughout the year. It was rare that he ever won a contest. And it wasn’t often that he halved them. It’s a simple thing to do. Watch any replay and judge him using those 4 outcomes as a measure.
  7. Preseason Training - Week commencing 11/12/17

    Clearly it’s an exaggerated remark. And so is labelling Oscar as “underrated”. Both are untrue.
  8. Finals 2018? Mick McGuane thinks so.

    Neal-Bullen to add "speed" and "damage" across the lines?
  9. Preseason Training - Week commencing 11/12/17

    Hope everyone keeps that bit of information in-house..
  10. Preseason Training - Week commencing 4/12/17

    Not really. Maybe I didn’t articulate myself well enough. I read a poster talking about Lever’s ability to read the ball drop quicker than Oscar in that drill. And that is something I witnessed many times this year from Oscar. The moment described was just exemplary of where they’re at as players and just confirms my fears that Oscar doesn’t possess ‘enough’ to succeed long term at AFL level. If he’s not a gorilla or a zone player, what is he?
  11. Preseason Training - Week commencing 4/12/17

    Is that the Lever vs Oscar shot? I hadn’t seen it, thanks.
  12. Preseason Training - Week commencing 4/12/17

    Amidst the Oscar talk, I wish to again express my concern without ‘potting’ him. Whilst the Lever Vs O-Mac moment isn’t of any significance at this stage of pre-season, it does give me a bit of a sick feeling in the stomach. Generally, posters are of the opinion that Oscar will be our ‘Gorilla defender’. But I want to ask how that can be the case given the way we defend as a back six? Aside from assigned tasks, our defenders are nearly almost always on the roll, covering different opponents, guarding space, pressing up aggressively and rebounding even more aggressively. My concern is that Oscar’s lack of attribute diversity, athleticism, speed and reaction time is completely non-conducive to a modern day zone defence. This year proved that to be the case time and time again. If you’re a slow and athletically poor defender, you almost certainly have to have a strong intercept/spoiling game or be a smart ball reader who positions themselves really well. And Oscar is neither of those things either. I understand he is ‘improving’ etc. But it doesn’t change the fact that he is not yet strong in any one given area of his game. And unless the Lever addition is going to mean a change to our zone play as a defensive unit, I can’t see how Oscar is going to be of any really benefit to the way we’ve been playing as a back six given how average/poor he is in many aspects of the game. Or in short; if Oscar is being easily beaten in body-on-body drills against a player who many demonlanders thought to be poor in that area, then I’m concerned for Oscar’s future as a best 22 defender.
  13. Jack Viney will Return to the Track in January.

    How hard is it to specify what the [censored] injury is? Seriously?

    You are. But that’s cool.
  15. Charlie Constable

    @Mach5 is right. His tank isn’t fantastic. Ran a similar time trial to Rayner last week but the difference is that Rayner has some elite traits to his game. I watched Charlie a few times this year and he was always labouring around the field. It’s hard to tell how he’ll go at AFL level. But imo, similarly to Gysberts, I’m not sure he has the aptitude for hard work. His lack of foot speed and average athletic ability works against him too. He is a smart mid, but it’s really hard to tell how he’ll go at AFL level. As far as inside mids go however, we certainly had no need to draft him or Worpel.