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  1. Farewell Jack Watts

    You must be some negotiator mate - anyone who disagrees with you is told to sit down and shut up. Nice. You're clearly running with your own narrative on this, aligning it with previous failures of the club, and I doubt I could convince you of anything otherwise, so good luck finding peace with the decision. I know I have very quickly. We have put Jack on the table and to those who have asked why, been upfront that for a senior player of his experience, his inconsistency is unacceptable. How this equates to dragging him through the mud or 'dismissing' him, I have no idea. And yes, in the recent past we have kept inconsistent senior players, and have not used their inconsistency as a catalyst or excuse to trade. That recent past has also been extremely unsuccessful. I don't think that's a coincidence so I for one am pleased the club is taking a harsher stance. But hey, my opinion isnt as valid as yours is it?
  2. Farewell Jack Watts

    I don't post here very often but this appalling post has motivated me to do so. I don't think any of us here know the full extent of this story so for you to come out and attack Mahoney's and Goodwin's character in defence of Watts, using his apparent 'loyalty' as an excuse - is really poor. He has been a well paid employee over this time and appears to be (see how I don't portray this as fact?) the type of character who was happy to go along for the ride, or do the easy thing. You have no idea if Jack has always had the best interests of the MFC at heart. Zero idea. If he did, he certainly had a strange way of showing it by in my view picking and choosing when to perform. The one thing we have been told is that after 9 years and 150 games, his inconsistency cannot be tolerated any longer. Given we failed as a club this year due to inconsistency (was not rd23's fault, not Adelaide's fault, but the losses to NM x2,freo,haw that stood between us and top 4 - let alone finals), i think that whether they are right or wrong on Jack it is clear they are trying to address why we came up short. That is their role and they should not be attacked for it or have their motives questioned. Personally, I had held some hope he would stay and turn it around, but his little video he has released eroded that hope and replaced it with anger. Lovely for him to respond to a young concerned supporter yes, but to use that as a chance to overlay a swipe at the club and go on to essentially pisstake the club (my interpretation, others may differ) left me furious. How many other 26/27 year old 150 game players would release that when moving clubs? Compare to Jarman Impey's message to PA supporters - classy and gracious. Jack's approach to me is childish and immature. Perhaps that is why he is so well loved, perhaps it is also why he's always been inconsistent. There have been a few other indicators of this over the journey. Do keep in mind Paul Roos was in a highly fortuitous position during his tenure. He was to be judged only a little on wins, moreso observed cultural change. He needed to build mateship and unity - I have little doubt Jack is top notch in these areas. We are through that stage and now need to break the ceiling. Evidently the FD think Jack, who appears to have developed so poorly and slowly on field and arguably (per video) off it, is not the best exponent of the breakthrough year. Whether we make top 4 next year will have nothing to do with Jack, and him thriving elsewhere will not mean this was a bad decision.
  3. Changes for GWS

    May be nothing, but flying home at 930 last night and Hunt was on the flight. Looked to have quite the swollen right cheek/jaw area. Not a lot of bruising but certainly looked odd. Who knows, could have been chewing gum but the way he flew alone sunday night made me wonder if he spent Saturday night in hospital with a cheekbone injury. Ben Brown was also on the flight sitting with the common folk. Dresses like a bum! Good player though.
  4. Round 18 Non MFC Matches

    What are those outcomes out of interest? Its sunday and I'm feeling lazy.

    Talk of trading Frost is both wrong and highly disrespectful. He is a key reason we are doing as well as we are. There is no other KPD in the comp like him, he's unique and he's ours.
  6. Has stepped up when needed. Great respect 

  7. Good luck big fella

    I love him but this is a bit much. Daniher is still young and if he can sort his kicking will absolutely be a great. Far more weapons than jesse too and a much more difficult match up. Lynch is already the closest thing to Carey we've seen for a while. Wills his team all the way and does it all. Special player.

    Smith may be named as we will need HBFs once lewis and or vince go in the guts.
  9. Changes v Carlton

    Fair enough
  10. Changes v Carlton

    Bizarre. The overrating of our list on this board is absurd... I post about the opposition's 10 best players and you think I am overrating them? Like us, their issue is their bottom 6 and their depth. Ours has managed to play reasonably well this year, fitting in to a good attacking gamestyle. Their bottom 6 is average (see N Graham) and they play a heavily defensive gamestyle which won't win them many games but is keeping them in the hunt. All I am saying is it would be foolish to underestimate them. You can bet Goodwin and the club view it the same way I do. Consider that your reaction to my listing of their top 10 is how every non dees supporter reacted to David King's article about us.
  11. Changes v Carlton

    I hate this attitude. Yes they are their 3 best players. But consider: -kreuzer beats gawn at the best of times. If max stinks it up like he did on Friday, this will go a long way to winning them the game. -the trio of weitering plowman marchbank is a good young hungry backline. Whoever plays forward out of tom mac watts hogan if fit is going to be double and triple teamed by these 3 given our lack of firepower -kade simpson is a jet -sam docherty will be the dual AA hbf at the end of the year. If he was ours we'd be putting him in brownlow contention. -charlie curnow is going places -matthew wright is always good for 2 or 3, even with jetta on him -casboult can now kick in addition to being the best mark in the league. I could go on. Carlton are 2 years away from being a serious serious threat if they can keep gibbs. They are doing great things under Bolton.
  12. Oliver is no 'stager'!

    Why is our doctor being questioned? He said that oliver reported a sore jaw. Why is he being hung out to dry? This is bizarre, from people ignoring claytons admission he shouldnt have dropped, to implicating the umpire for passing on what the player reported. People must really hate us and oliver - i dont get the witch hunt
  13. Oliver is no 'stager'!

    Agree. I would love PJ to come out and support Clarry here. This can follow a player forever.
  14. Oliver is no 'stager'!

    He's going to get off here schofield. What annoyed me is grant thomas and others saying he has made it worse by not admitting it....he said he shouldnt have fallen over and was sort of scared...isnt that him admitting he shouldnt have done it? Finding the attacks on this 19 yo's character from all corners quite distressing
  15. Looking ahead ... the Path to September

    I think all of you and the media need to seriously pump the brakes. Weve had a fantastic month but there is a way to go to 'safely assume finals' (cannot believe what I am reading from an mfc supporter). We have a young team and combative game style - it will catch up at some point, tipping around rnd 17-18 if not through more injuries (which is starting with sore groins, hammies and hips - the first to go) then definitely through a lack of run. We are relying on big and good games from kids in hunt, petracca, oliver and to a lesser extent harmes, anb, hannan, frost to win games. It wont continue, inconsistency is inevitable. Try your best to ignore the media circus. They get on and off the st kilda train, it's quite bizarre. They literally say whatever pops into their brain. Reactive with no foresight, sense of the game and often, limited actual knowledge of our team. We may scrape in, we may be safely in at 5th or 6th, we could easily miss. Either way, I think we will look back at this year as the year of injuries. Its just too hard to overcome.