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    Dean Kent, Aaron Vandenberg and Mitch Hannan

    I've mentioned before how Frosty was done in by Jordy and the precise ball movement set, but the loss to the pacey Pies I think made Goody realise that you need a mix of players to be successful. The topic was about the other three. Hannan's first half was as good as any medium forward we have had - including Robbo and Brad Green and further back to Yze and Gerard Healy (circa 1982). Obviously it will be hard to repeat, but provided he attacks the pill like that, he will be an asset during the finals - possibly a bit like Warren Dean of 1987 finals series. Vanders is the most dangerous player at the club - with Viney out, he's the one player you don't want to draw in team tackling drills. He a different personality to others on our team, but he's got some amazing abilities and he's been a part of all our big wins in the past four years (except last year when he was out). That includes BOG v Richmond in our first ever Anzac Eve night game and on Hodgey v Hawthorn in 2016. And people don't realise this but with Jayden injured, he's the fastest straight-line sprinter in the team over distance from 40m to 75m - Frosty can get to him by 80m. Kent is a bit of an enigma and has lacked confidence and smarts at times, but his second half yesterday was huge. Unfortunately after what has happened to him under Goody, I had written him off playing such a key role, but there he was - back to the talented left-footer with the thumping kick that he showed us all in 2016.
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    Trade HOGAN

    Yes it's a great topic and one that I hope the Dees are discussing with both Jesse and his management. Clearly if Jesse wants to stay, then we should make every effort to keep him, but if there's a doubt and he has real interest in heading home, then it's worth considering and taking a rational path and plan. Jesse is a huge talent (arguably our most natural talent since Allen Jakovich), yet he is also our biggest off-field problem and whilst footy clubs cover up indiscretions of stars, they can prove costly to team harmony because having one rule for one player and a different set of rules for others can create divisions - just look at Gary Ablett's impact at Geelong this year. The other factor to consider is that Freo, as Kingy mentions, has a pick that would go some way to meet our requirements - pick 6 or 7. personally I reckon we would want their 2019 second round pick as well of we went down that path. With their pick 6 or 7 we would most likely have the potential to draft whichever King brother remains available or if we wanted to make a play for Jack Billings, it would give us the ammunition to get that deal done - I'd want the Saints second rounder for 2019 in return for Billings and our acquired pick 6 or 7 though. Ultimately the club has to weigh it up and insiders would have the biggest idea of Jesse's wish to stay in Melbourne. If I was on the Dees admin I'd be having a serious off-the-record chat with Harmsey about it.
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    Changes v GWS Giants

    The Tyson one where he was carried over the line could also have been called a high tackle - ultimately a correct no-call. He got a bit lucky early with a free kick 15m out from goal when he ducked into a tackle - did you mean that one?
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    How far will we get?

    I actually reckon we have all but three teams covered. Richmond at night - thankfully if we play them it's more than likely a day game on the last Saturday in Sept. Collingwood - their pace still worries me and they will get Treloar back so midfield will be tough. Unless they beat WC, then we won't play them though. West Coast in Perth - sadly barring upsets we will be playing them over there again in preliminary final and by then Kennedy and Darling will be back. I still like our chances, but reckon the umps will step up late in the final term and give Rioli a couple of cheapies in front of goal.
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    Changes v GWS Giants

    This thread is virtually not required this week. There will be no axings - we just won our first final and have just over two weeks before the real stuff. There will be no restings - we have a week off coming anyway. Hibberd has already been risked - he came back on yesterday - and unless he pulls up sore after the flight then he will be playing. Vanders may miss a week - for his elbow on Rioli - but more than likely cops a fine. If he is to miss, then JKH or Wags will replace him. O-Mac is fine - he fell on him, he didn't sling. Joel Smith would have come in had we lost, but we will now have the luxury of not rushing him back until week one of the finals. Ditto Jack Viney.
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    Demonland Player of the Year - Round 22

    6 Gawn - What a presence. You knew he was on from first bounce. 5 Harmes - Unbelievable game and I am going to credit Saty for picking him out at training to me midway through his first year at club and saying he had potential. Saty does say that about almost every Dee he sees, but I have loved the way he plays since his first game and now he's getting the accolades. 4 Melky - Hands up if you feel confident when he gets it. I certainly do and those Essendon fans who used to tell me he was a turnover king are now eating their words. 3 Brayshaw - In everything and I would loved to know how much ground he covered. The main reason why we are now a top-4 team and why we will meet WC in the preliminary final in four weeks time. 2 Salem - How controlled down back was he again. Love him. 1 Hannan/Kent - Both grabbed their chance and played games that will see them named in our first finals side since 2006. Confident with kicks and tackled like madmen.
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    Changes v West Coat - Round 22

    Popped in at training for just over an hour and nice to see Joel Smith back training - albeit just with Crossy. Saw his scar and the medicos appear to have done a great job. He is setting himself for a return next week v GWS and imagine he will be sporting more padding than his dad used to don. Hope he doesn't rush back - he's way too important if we make finals. Jetta also was initially in rehab group but after about 45mins joined the main group, so he'll be right to play. Baker the only other rehab player and he was just doing laps - he reckons the VFL prelim is his target. Melky and Hibberd both looked fit and eager. Unless they hurt themselves in final bit of training they will be playing. Pedo training with backs, Weid training with forwards. As to side, I will be surprised if there is not four changes. Obviously, Hunt and Hogan are out and Spargo needs to reboot in VFL, while the experiment with Pedo as intercepter did not work and Hibbo will be back to play that role this week and with the Eagles down to two tall forwards - Vardy and Darling - it's hard to justify having three tall backs. That means it's a question of whether Pedo replaces Hoges as our second tall forward, or whether Weid gets the job. I'm loving all the rhetoric on other threads, but as I've said before, Weid now has the agility to play AFL, he just needs the confidence and the rule changes next year will help him. Ultimately he has to play because why spend the whole week training Pedo as a backman if you want him to play as a forward. So Melky in for Spargo, Weid in for Hoges, Hibberd in for Pedo and Fritsch sent to defensive rotations for Hunt, leaving one more spot to be filled by either Kent, Hannan or Bugg. I haven't got a clue which one, but Buggy looked more fired up at training than I've seen him for a while.
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    The Blowtorch on Jordan Lewis

    Lewis is a smart player who brings plenty to the table with his clever disposal and he's been a huge factor in our rise up the charts (percentage wise at least). But as we have all noticed all year he has been found out for pace and is now up there with the slowest players in the league when it comes to sprinting for the ball - Hodge and Selwood are up there too. He clearly is needed for this season - it's too late to be making massive changes to our back seven and once we make finals he will be even more important. But clearly there are some serious talks to be had once the season is completed. But please give it a rest on the anti-Lewis stuff until post-season. He deserves his last hurrah this season.
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    Changes v West Coat - Round 22

    Can I restate what I said several weeks ago when I watched Weid at training. The kid is no longer a kid - he looks the part. Weed now has some agility, he no longer has a David Neitz turning circle. He also has lateral vision. When I went down to training I thought, jeez, is Maynard back from injury, but no it was Weid - he now moves like a midfielder. Sure he's not mega-quick like Frosty or Clayton, but he's hardly slow now. When he got his chance v St Kilda, he was part of a top-heavy forward line and blew it. For some reason he just didn't have the confidence to go back and nail his shots that day - but I suspect that day will come soon and hopefully he can turn it on in one of the next two games for us. And then if the rules are changed to limit zones, he will be an even better player.
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    Trade HOGAN

    Love the way that Wiseblood and others have defended Jesse and as to it being a bulls..t thread as was suggested by one, the fact that we are all reading it and so many of us are replying shows that it is now the most interesting discussion for fans. It's a bit like Jack Watts of 2013-17 - after so many underacheiving games, it all starts turning on the big name, big pay players - as it rightly should. Please don't make the mistake that I am suggesting Jesse is not capable of being physical - he clearly is unlike Wattsy - but Jesse has been granted the most pivotal spot in the side and finds himself being surpassed by a meat and potatoes hard worker in T-Mac, who has shown that if you fight for every contest, things can happen. For me, in Jesse's case it has nothing to do with his ability - we all know he has a leap, we all know he can run, we all know he can baulk and pivot as well as any big guy in the league. What we don't know (and even the club may not know) is what he gets up to at night - is he partying too hard, is he drinking too much, is he professional - because nowadays only the players that work their butt off both on and off the field are successful in the long-term. I've heard rumours of poor antics and I've heard reports from daughters at nightclubs, so I know he enjoys that scene perhaps more than he should - he's 23 now, he's not a kid. Will he mature like Dusty? Is he capable of maturing like Dusty and walking the fine line between loveable rogue and meathead? Jesse is the most natural footballer we've had since Allen Jakovich - yet interestingly Jakovich made a beeline for Clayton Oliver this weekend and rates him his favourite player of today. Jesse has one of the best natural running tanks I've seen - those of you who watch training reps will know how easy he does it. Yet he also does it as a part-time (maybe fulltime I don't know) smoker. As others have stated Jesse has flaws in his kicking - why haven't these been corrected yet. Why is he one of the few bigname forwards that rarely has a shot from 45-60m out. Why does he hold it like a left-footer. Why does he still stutter and we saw with his shot from 35m yesterday that he was stuttering even more than normal under the pressure of it all. If you peel back the layers of Jesse, I suspect you will find he's struggling with life in the fastlane of AFL football and is a bit of a Nick Kyrgios - happy to act cool and disinterested when beaten rather than show that he's working his butt off to fix things. Now he has an excuse, a foot injury, and his omission may actually help us, not hinder us. Part of that is because Weid has been getting better and better at VFL level and looks almost like a midfielder at training, such is his confidence dishing it off. Whilst I am not totally confident that he will be able to turn it on just yet, I am confident he will be able to match or possibly even surpass what Jesse has done for us in the big games this season. And if he does show signs, then maybe the title of this thread is bang on the money after all - trade Hogan!
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    Trade HOGAN

    Thanks older Demon but we actually do have A-listers now - Gawn, Oliver, Viney and Brayshaw and Salem heading that way. We also already have replacements for those three players. Lewis - Salem has already taken on the role and made him expendable. Vince - Take your pick out of several defenders who play tight and uncomprising footy like Bernie used to until he started losing a bit of pace - Smith is my favourite of the new breed though. Jones - he's already been moved out of our midfield core. I'd like to see him play the Jarrad McVeigh role next year. Agree with you though that it is a big call to move out Hoges, but sometimes as we saw with Wattsy last year, it needs to be done and in Hoges' case it's not just because of what he displays on the field.
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    Trade HOGAN

    Thanks Febel - I thought as much. It's probably too late in season and nowadays they train in the three specific groups, but I would have loved to have seen Hoges and OMac swap possies a few times this season mid games. And with Joel Smith out, Jesse is probably our only player (when in form) that is quick enough and good enough in the air to provide an intercept game-saving mark. I saw him way back when he played U18s for WA and I thought what a talent back there.
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    Changes v West Coat - Round 22

    So you didn't spot Melky this season - he leads league in goal assists - a pretty handy stat I reckon.
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    Changes v West Coat - Round 22

    Well said Clint. Please DL nerds provide stats on this. My suspicion is that he has been abysmal in every one of our recent losses and very good in every one of our wins - downhill skier (smoker). The two exceptions that I can recall are that he was pretty handy against Richmond at night - even snagging one from 50m out. He also beat two players to get the key matchwinning handball against Adelaide three weeks ago - after a pretty quiet night mind you. He made a great start to year, but has fallen away and his lack of second efforts are becoming the norm. I've said a few times that he probably needs a stint down back just to give him perspective and remind him how important it is to keep contesting. But now it seems he has a bit of a niggle anyway so there may be more to his loss of form. One of my biggest disappointment yesterday was in third term on members wing and he and his opponent (think it was Aliir) were coming to fly for a mark and Lloyd was in front and backing in courageously and Hoges didn't even hammer Lloyd with a knee up fly - which would have been a fair tactic and the expected tactic.
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    Changes v West Coat - Round 22

    Clearly will be the two ins with Hibberd and Melky and I would have thought Hannan, Wags, Weid, Kent and Bugg are all in the mix for a recall as well although I can't see them all returning in one hit. The three likely outs by my reckoning are: Hunt - Injured his ankle ligaments again I think, but let's wait and see what club says on this. Pedo - Replaced Smith as we tried going big, but he just wasn't able to play that intercepter role and you have to wonder what selectors were thinking in picking him as a third defender against a small side like the Swans. With Hibberd out, Wags was the logical like-for-like choice. Further to this Oscar got the easy second-tall gig on McCartin and that meant his confidence and standing rose as Pedo's fell. Spargo - I love his workrate but I reckon his two shots that ended up short make it hard to justify him at such a young age. Then the club has to decide whether they can afford to again play Hoges and Garlett who have been unable to have an impact in big games, although both have been mega-impressive in our easy wins. Ousting them means a major restructure of forward line late in season. If Hoges is too sore, then I actually think Weids can do a fairly good job of replacing him.