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  1. 7 points
    Funny how every year it's always next year that's the "superdraft".
  2. 6 points
    If we are a good team Watts is the icing on the cake. He doesn't need to be the flour or the eggs etc. He is the best finisher in the side. We need that. Who would you rather shooting for goal than Watts, in our side. I agree on keeping him as we will be better off with him when we are a good side, than having another mid draft pick that may get us another player that can't do what he already can. He was not to blame for the last round and people need to look at who was. For starters look at Garletts non efforts, Tysons 6 turnovers in the first quarter, several one arm tackle attempts , Bernies passing, Tom Mac's game etc.
  3. 6 points
    If you are sick and tired of making excuses for the club, then don't let the rest of AAMI Park shield themselves behind Jack Watts. Critique the erratic coaching or the players that didn't show up for the first quarter against the Pies - because Watts doesn't need an excuse for that - he did show up.
  4. 6 points
    Shiel was at the ball first, had won the ball and was in an extremely vulnerable position. Cotchin elected to bump, he didn't try and tackle or dive for the ball. He charged in with arm tucked, got him in the head and concussed him. The rules are there to protect the ball players. I don't really understand how there is an argument about this. If it's a suspension in a NAB challenge game or in round 5 it's a suspension in the preliminary final. The rules don't just change in September.
  5. 5 points
    Told BB this - I have been very close to starting a thread a few times since the GWS game, but will get around to it while I have a couple long weekends. Goodwin inherited a good situation and is new to this but I have a few concerns around his tactics and persona. Probably small potatoes considering where we were pre-Roos but that should be irrelevant now.
  6. 5 points
    I'm so jealous. Why can't this be Melbourne
  7. 4 points
    Why are the Tigers now in the Grand Final? Sure it's the strength of Dustin Martin, the class of Trent Cotchin, the sheer nous of Riewoldt and the stability of Alex Rance. Its adding Nankervis, Prestia & Caddy. Its adding small dynamic forwards. But there are 4 other key factors 1- LUCK ... no injuries all year (really only Nathan Drummond, 35-40 "list player" who did his knee). Amazing. Clean health for 40 others. 2- FOOTBALL ... football football and football. The Tigers had 330 possessions (200 kicks, 130 handballs) vs Giants 390 possessions (210 kicks 180 handballs). This was virtually the same in Tigers vs Cats. Other sides like Melbourne overpossess the footy and lose the footy in turnovers 3- GOALS ... the forwards kick goals. If you are inside 50, run and kick goals. Not a further 3 handballs and finally 4- G&D... tough determined footballers. No shirkers. Blokes all put their heads over the footy.
  8. 4 points
    What a joke! And I confess I've fallen for it over the years. Draft quality does vary from year to year but future predictions are fraught. It's not even clear yet how strong the 2016 draft was let alone the 2018 draft. It's only now that there's some evidence for assessing the strength of the 2015 draft.
  9. 4 points
    Sheedy and Scully......may the club just rot and eventually fade away. Their smug looks on the day that Scully went up to Sydney for 'just a look around' won't be forgotten .
  10. 4 points
    Many good posts on this thread. Last night was the first time I'd really looked at Lever closely, and I would have rated his game about a 5 too. But at the same time, it was very impressive nonetheless. Just as Adelaide were determined to pressure Tuohy at every opportunity to stop Geelong moving the ball too easily out of defence,, Geelong had definitely worked out that they needed to try to stop Lever from coming in 3rd man up, and from peeling off into space to attack. So Lever was the one Crow that Geelong and their cunning umpire-conning coach felt they set up a specific plan against. They weren't hard-tagging him by any means, but they were undoubtedly trying to keep him away from aerial contests and to stop him breaking into space when Adelaide won a turnover or a contested ball in defence. Fair to say he struggled to get near it in the first quarter, and I wasn't much impressed, and wondered whether he could work his way into the game. He just did this really well. He didn't panic, he didn't try to do anything spectacular, he didn't get frustrated, he just kept working not harder but smarter. He seems to be able to avoid the guy who's trying to block him out while at the same time focussing his attention on the flight of the ball so that he times his run to perfection. He just worked away in an unobtrusive fashion, didn't do anything wrong, was there when he needed to be, didn't try anything too flash, just "kept his head". This was an incredibly mature way of going about it for a 21-year-old. On the other hand, I thought Geelong gave Laird & Seedsman much too much latitude, and being so "Lever-conscious" may well have played a part in this. So in a way he was prepared to play "just-a-game" in order that his team benefits overall. Of course, this reflects Adelaide's team-based approach to coaching. So a 5/10 game, but very impressive nevertheless. My two cents.
  11. 4 points
  12. 3 points
    They may not be the unbeatable juggernaut we all feared. A few are at the end or close to it like Stevie, Deledio, Griffin, Shaw and Mummy and they won't get the bucket full of first round picks again. They are now what they are just like every other team. They should have made a GF but haven't. They are still talented but lack some real mental toughness.
  13. 3 points
    LUCK: Anyone else think we might have snuck into the finals if we had Richmond's 2017 injury record? There's good reason to believe that the other factors in the OP might come into play if you have your best players in the team on a regular week to week basis i.e adds stability and allows momentum to build over the season which is what we're seeing with the Tigers.
  14. 3 points
    If you objective was the ball. Youd have both arms out to get it. Cotchin doesnt. In fact hes had enough time to pull one in and brace knowingly. I dont like the rules. I like the idea of bumping players. But in the current evolution of the rule Cotchin is in deep do-do. What he intended is all but irrelevant as its almost never taken into account. What will be ( as stands now ) is: What he DID. What he was ABLE to do. What injury was incurred to other player. Gonski
  15. 3 points
    And their captain sticks fat with his players and doesn't bag them out in the media Nor does their coach
  16. 3 points
    They will be appealing to the Vicco Pride element for sure. Amazing how many fall for it. I'd rather an interstate team win than any of the scummy Vicco ones.
  17. 3 points
    Watch all hell break lose this week when only about 15,000 of their 75,000+ members get tickets. (Plus their MCC and AFL members). The will really go absolutely feral!! At least the crowd will be more even. Can't imagine the die hard Ess, Coll, Carl fans barracking for Richmond. Hardwick has already started the sob story of being the underdogs looking for the fairytale wave of love the WB had last year from neutrals.
  18. 3 points
    He didn't attempt to bump, he did bump and he bumped his opponent who had his head down going for the ball, got him on the head and concussed him putting him out for the game. If that happened to one of our players and/or we were playing Richmond next week and he got off you'd be filthy (and rightly so).
  19. 3 points
    This is hard for me Bartlett is right There i said it. Have to go shower now...
  20. 3 points
    Anyone trying to blame Adelaide for us not playing finals is just embarrassing themselves.
  21. 3 points
    Our problems are above the shoulders. Dave Misson has trained Olympians End of discussion
  22. 3 points
    Best player for the Cats in the last two finals, why not revive the discussion? Showed some great run tonight in the mould of Daniel Wells, ie effortlessly a pace ahead of everyone and most of his disposals were very silky and leading his team mates into space. In the top 5 for distance covered per match too apparently.
  23. 3 points
    GWS winning the Grand Final would be the equivalent of McDonalds buying itself a Michelin Star.
  24. 3 points
    Well the afl basically [censored] fitzroy in the ass then created this monstrosity and have been pouring money in ever since. Id be bitter too
  25. 2 points
    Your neuroses (and a couple others) are all over this thread - extensive and raw and occasionally slimy and sticky - and I do worry whether this is pervasive across the broader Demon fan base. Watts is not the reason we didn't play finals. Watts is not the reason we didn't play finals. A team is made up of a collection of individuals with their own issues and talents, bringing ranging form and frustrating injuries. The failure to kick another two goals over the course of the season is the collective failure of the team; a number of injuries and medical absences to key players, the dipping of form of number of important players, the mistakes of a novice coach, and the nonchalance of an arrogant young team. The reason I bring this up in yet another 'Watts [censored] Off' thread is because rarely do non-core, non-bedrock players get so much heat for all the failings of a club. Jack is a high HF/wing with excellent vision, skills and footy IQ. Watts at his best is not the foundation for a finals winning team; he relies on others to get him the ball, and others to get the ball to, requiring, in some cases, great talent to start and finish his work. And yet, who is the player who gets the most ire? Who is the one 'we gotta get rid of (snort)'? This role player who played 8 good games out of 12, 3 poor ones in that 12, had a bad hamstring, played 3 more poor games, paid for it, and was one of about 3 players that showed up on time against Collingwood in the last round. This is the scapegoat for 2017. Him again?! Goodwin won't realise it for a decade but he should in his last press conference , or his after match conference, woken from his near comatose state that he seemingly is in all his conferences and lifted the burden from a player and spread it around or put it on himself. This rant isn't a defence of Watts - it is an indictment on some of you, my comperes, for showing little to no desire to look beyond the easy answer and perpetuate this flagellation and blame for someone who may leave in a couple weeks but in no way will solve 'The Demon Question' - whether he stays or goes. Remember, it was Watts who said to Paul Roos in a plea for him to come (not for himself to leave mind you) - 'I just want to be treated like a human being...'
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