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  1. 14 points
    The official word is Gosch's Paddock tomorrow (Thursday) at 9.15am but Demonland will have correspondents there at different times of the day and at Casey Fields and Ballarat just in case.
  2. 11 points
    Nathan acknowledged as in the top 30 players in the AFL, long time coming.
  3. 10 points
    C Salem to sign contract extension for another 3 years. Should be announced before Friday.
  4. 10 points
  5. 10 points
  6. 9 points
    You are making things up while asking others for facts. You place yourself between the club and critics and then deny that you do it. You state you don't want to make things personal while making personalised comments. You state demonland is improving when people agree with you and that it is getting worse when they don't. This is the behaviour of a troll.
  7. 8 points
    Well, you were right Saty in predicting that this topic would generate pages and pages of pointless bickering. Maybe you should have predicted your part in that as well.
  8. 7 points
    Saty was looking a bit dishevelled, but the rest of us would have passed muster, I reckon.
  9. 7 points
    He has some bloody good players ranked behind him. And, relevantly, this is as rated by the players - not some fat journo. Well done Nate - a legitimate MFC club legend.
  10. 7 points
    The guy hasn't played for 12 months. He showed promise on the weekend but his timing looked out and his touch and match fitness will improve. He'll probably miss this week by the sounds of it but I'd play him in both of the remaining two Nab games if he's fit. He needs the match practice. And we need him up and about if we're a chance against the Suns. This cotton wool, alarmist mentality is disturbing.
  11. 7 points
    I just don't get everyone's obsession to trade before the start of the season.....We have not played a game for points and all want to trade player out for some fanciful player from another side..... Howe has played 22 games last year for a total of 78 He has kicked 70 goals and 54 points in that time....He was also second in rebound 50 after Dunn for last year He was also 5th in kicks for the club last year....Also 2nd for marks taken and 1st for contested marks and 1st for short kicks He was also 6th in the b&f and received 2 brownlow vote. So the crap about being a one trick pony is exactly that. He also played in defence last year, a position that he has never played before and I thought played it well.
  12. 6 points
    lol - campbell newman. must be something in the water up in qld producing charismatic messiahs - newman, rudd, bjelke joe (that's apolitical, one from each party)
  13. 6 points
    Your idea of facts is conducting a straw poll of the person standing next to you and their 4 year old kid. You don't know how many people left in disgust. You don't know how many memberships or how much merchandise could have been sold. And it wasn't a normal Monday session, because it was a public holiday, which lends to greater accessability for supporters to attend. Just accept that you are a supporter like everyone else, and you are not privy to the inner workings of the club.
  14. 5 points
    Its funny cause the players are involved in the membership telethon but the club has missed not one but two golden opportunities to get memberships through the infra club match and the open training session. Bloody stupid imo. Pick up your game MFC.
  15. 5 points
  16. 4 points
    The great 2015 gazebo heist. Club survives Norm Smith, Barassi, Mergers, Prendergast, Neeld, Tanking. Finally brought undone by gazebo expenditure.
  17. 4 points
    Let's be clear about this. ASADA offered Essendon (with the cooperation of the AFL) a way out of this in 2013. It meant they took some of the blame. The result - Hird rolled his "best friend" Evans (about the only honest broker in all of this), and recruited Little to go on a binge of self justification and sociopathic self indulgence (if that is not an oxymoron!). It could have been all over in 2013, if Hird had have confessed guilt, as Essendon and Evans wanted him to, which i know for a fact was their PR and legal advice which pointed them in that direction. Instead, they went on a binge of self justification and self indulgence which has lead to this current mess. This situation is entirely in Hird's court. All other clubs would have recognized the dangers and acted upon them. I hesitate to raise this, but history is littered with charismatic leaders with too much power and no checks and balances (Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pott, Mao, Campbell Newman). All eventually fall on their sword though hubris and arrogance. Hird is the sporting equivalent. There is no other AFL club with anyone approaching a leader of such power and wealth, and blind adherence from fans and the club, as Jame Hird. Such power is a fatal combination in any organisation. Unfortunately there has been no equivalent power to keep him in check and so he has led a once great club to the point of oblivion through his self obsession, and arrogance. They deserve everything they get.
  18. 4 points
    These sort of carefree approaches to Hogans delicate disposition annoy me. Why are you rushing him ? I would put him on ice until we are in the premiership window and then only give him a run two weeks before the finals so he is cherry ripe - he could be our Clark Keating..
  19. 4 points
    Its a valid concern. its one indeed the AFL need to keep very much in mind lest they fall foul themselves. A great many people are viewing this as some sort of AFL only , inside the box affair. It's much more than that. This is how I see it .........
  20. 4 points
  21. 4 points
    Too risky then as well, wrap him up in Cotten wool till next year I say. Then give him a run in next years NAB and if he has another hot spot issue, rest him again for a year. Can't be too cautious on this guy. He could get to the end of his contract with just half a dozen NAB highlights. But at least we have managed him well.
  22. 3 points
    Guys, as being a local Ballarat Dees supporter I'm just giving you the heads up if you are attending the NAB Cup game v Doggies Saturday 4.10pm start in Ballarat. If travel by train check the VLine site for times etc then a short Taxi ride from the station. By car, turn off the freeway at North Ballarat and the ground is 5 mins away. Parking? They will try to slug you $5 to park next door at the Showgrounds...cheaper to turn East at the Subway/Servo and park down a side street then it's a short walk to the ground. Show this years membership card to get in for free. Last years game here Blues v North had 7850 crowd and I would think max would be mabye 9000? You will be standing! The small grandstand will be full of players families and officials etc. If you can't stand all day you would have to take a chair and get there EARLY! If disabled I'd assume contact the AFL as would be normal practice. The only tiered viewing is the Northern end near the scoreboard behind the goals. If watching from the east (highway side) expect the setting sun to be in your eyes. The ground will have a great atmosphere and the surface is exceptional, if the weather is nice pop into town early have some lunch and make your way to the match. Alternatively arrange to have a catch up for a bbq with friends at Lake Wendouree then off to the game pumped up for a Dees win! Enjoy the day! EDIT BY DEMONLAND: The Game will be LIVE on http://melbournefc.com.au
  23. 3 points
    Hopefully they have a permit for the gazebo they set up
  24. 3 points
  25. 3 points
    Carey was captain of North Melbourne at 21 and All Australian captain at 22. He was a budding superstar at 20. Let's just hope Hogan has a solid injury free year.
  26. 3 points
    You're not afraid of hyperbole are you.
  27. 3 points
    I think all players should take up surfing, paddling around in the cold waters of Victoria can only be good for the body and muscles.
  28. 3 points
    Might be an idea to get the Richmond doc to have a look.
  29. 3 points
  30. 3 points
    I don't agree they will halve the penalty. I think they will serve the full two years, and i seem to remember the ASADA offer of backdated penalties was made before Hird, Little and Essendon tied up the whole process in the courts challenging ASADA's methods and its association with the AFL. This will not be viewed kindly by ASADA and WADA. I seem to remember when ASADA was asked recently about backdating penalties for Essendon they pointedly refused to answer. I believe the least penalties ASADA/WADA will accept are two year bans dated from the day the penalties are announced, and if it covers more than two players (more than likely), then Essendon may also find themselves banned for a time. Then let the writs fly.
  31. 3 points
    OD the sanctions to date refer to bringing the game into disrepute. If they are found guilty of systemic PED cheating you can be sure there is more pain to come.
  32. 3 points
    I emailed the club and they contacted me back today apologising, The club has offered the kids that missed out yesterday a place in a guard of honour as the team runs through the banner, they also want to arrange the kids favourite player to give them a call and also offered to send a kids fun pack. I thought that was pretty good of them.
  33. 3 points
    The irony in this post smells so bad you can almost see it. You take aim at the supporters who were annoyed with the day, who are in the vast majority here, and then back up your statement based on a chat with 1 person. Give me a break Saty. The club stuffed up and you know it.
  34. 3 points
    Can we get the Richmond doctor to scan it please? If he gives it the all clear, then I will start breathing again...
  35. 2 points
    Just found out that it was 1 year today that Dean Bailey passed away. He had his faults but i was one of a few that had alot of respect for the man. His son posted a photo on instagram of him in his last days looking very frail and sick and made me sad. Thoughts go out to his family.
  36. 2 points
    My belief is that media and marketing, whilst down the pecking order at the moment, may receive a greater focus once the club has something to sell other than hope. Yes, the club seems headed in the right direction, but the less invested supporter is now waiting to see evidence of it on the field. So currently, FD spending is consuming budget from other areas. Once the results come, the club will have something more tangible to sell. I'm not saying this approach is right or wrong, just my own theory as to their thinking. If it remains the amateur approach we have now once the club starts winning with regularity, I'll be more concerned.
  37. 2 points
    R I agree the WADA/ASADA issues are different from Worksafe, and subsequent litigation, but they do influence one another. After all, Essendon and Hird took ASADA to court on the basis that the joint AFL/ ASADA investigation was illegal. It has been thrown out of court twice. ASADA and WADA both take note of this and it subsequently affects their decisions. ASADA was initially prepared to negotiate with Essendon about backdating penalties but as soon as they took them to court, all talk of this ceased unless you are a delusional Essendon fan or one of Hird's media lackies. Any subsequent legal action by players will almost certainly be caused by loss of employment as a consequence of ASADA bans. There are plenty of precedences of employees suing employers for unsafe workplaces. In fact I would say it is the usual rather than the unusual. Why would Essendon be any different particularly in such a clear cut case. WorkSafe is charged under state legislation in keeping Victorian workplaces safe. I can't think of a stronger instance of a greater abuse of workers safety than giving them illegal and potentially life changing drugs IN THE WORKPLACE. Although they will conduct their own investigation into this, they will take notice of the ASADA investigation and where appropriate use it in evidence. So in that sense they are related. The caveat i would put on this is, with the way Essendon are lining up political heavyweights across party lines like the Premier, former Liberal minister Louise Asher and the other Spring Street Bombers, the new governor and former AFL commissioner, and now Lindsay Tanner's appointment to the EFC Board, and the sacking last week of the current CEO of WorkSafe, it looks to me as though we are lining up for some serious political interference at board level of WorkSafe Victoria. I have no doubt there is a serious case for unsafe work practices against Essendon, but it may well be nobbled by significant powerplays behind the scenes. My scenario following these instances I admit are based on my conclusions about what is likely to happen. Unlike my conclusions to do with WADA, they are not based on any inside information, nor any tips from insider lawyers. All I have done is look at parallel cases in business and sport and draw certain conclusions. I may be way off the mark but somehow I doubt it. One thing I do know is that those who think Essendon will get away with a slap over the knuckles are deluding themselves. This has a long way to go, and many high powered people will be working very hard to reach a conclusion. Thank goodness we have an outside umpire to keep everyone honest.
  38. 2 points
    Soooooooo..... We can't organise a permit to sell things at Gosch's but the Demon Army can get its act together (well, sort of) to sell snags and a coffee cart can sell drinks??? Given that it was heavily promoted as a special Labour Day training session, with food and drinks, blind Freddie could see that membership and merch sales would have been a good idea, especially given the email came from MFC Membership. Fancy promoting the event to supporters and then underestimating the crowd and the potential for sales! I was there willing to spend good money, many families I spoke to said the same. Low hanging fruit without a doubt. If in fact $1000 was the cost to set up, then we made a mistake. Not to mention all the supporter good will that would have been generated, particularly amongst young fans, the future of our club. Last post on the topic for me. I'll leave the apologist to keep at it.
  39. 2 points
    If we are, then we take our punishment. It is as simple as that. what we don't do is cover it up and think we can pull the wool over the eyes of our supporters, staff and the general public as a Hird led Essendon seem to think is acceptable. I am very confident we do not have an sociopathic charismatic leaders like Hird who will lie and cheat for their own ends. That is the main reason Essendon are in trouble, and they deserve to be.
  40. 2 points
    I agree those suggesting the AFL will take the licence of EFC are in DC words "Dreamin" The supporter base is too big and little would fight it through every court in the land. Too Much Loss for the AFL and too hard. It will not happen.
  41. 2 points
    That ol' reality bus just doesnt visit Essendon. How in the face of all evidence to the contrary they can consider themselves hard done by, the victims even is beyond me. That the media ( hacks , fanboys etc ) continue this nonsense of attempting to groom a concioussness from which paltry penalty will arise is further proof that 1) the AFL and all its cronies still think they live in a world apart and that 2) it can in any way influence the outcome utter nonsense
  42. 2 points
    Anyone who thinks we would have not covered $1000 on Monday through sales or that signage at the ground wouldn't create income for the club needs to take some viagra eye drops and have a good hard look at themselves.
  43. 2 points
    Man thats sad to hear. Just shows the kid puts enormous pressure on himself and sometimes you can see that on field. As much as Roosy and the coaching staff try and ease the expectations on these kids it would be difficult for Toump to take that on board especially when he hears some of our idiot supporters who get on social media and twitter and say that we should have taken Wines instead of him. And he cant control what happened. The Toump has my support all along and will never lose faith in him. I can see the determination and talent there it just all needs to click.
  44. 2 points
    I normally skim past your posts Saty but had to correct you on this. I understand you take this club criticism personally chap, but try not to speak on behalf of the club. You miss the point, so I'll type it slowly. The club would have made far more from the day than what it cost to get a permit and fund $1000 for a membership/merchandise tent. I would have easily covered about a quarter of that with a new kid's membership and merch sales. Judging by other parents spoken to, I was clearly not alone. My young one was disheartened, but if the desire is still there of course I'll buy a first membership. The lack of vision and poor communication within the club cost it financially and more importantly in terms of goodwill. It's ameteur, not professional, definitely not a good commercial decision and does little to esteeme the club to young supporters. New, young supporters are the future of our club, not you, not me. MFC can definitely put funds into the FD and engage with young supporters at the same time. Time to stop making excuses.
  45. 2 points
    Don't have much to add but I am very excited as I finally worked out how to do one of thise giffy things.....oh yeah and Angus has signed on for the journey...
  46. 2 points
  47. 2 points
    On what I seen last Thursday with his work rate off the ball, Dean Kent would want to improve. It's one of Roos non-negotiables and Kent does nowhere near enough work to close down and apply forward pressure nor does he run hard with his direct opponent when we don't have the ball. He has a lot of tools in his Arsenal but having the right attitude and willingness to really bust your gut will be the final determination in whether or not he reaches his full potential and beyond. Otherwise we will be left waiting on his breakout year
  48. 2 points
  49. 2 points
    LT absolutely spot on. I too witnessed him going in hard and laying some strong tackles. It does make me wonder though if its possible the club start giving him spells as an on baller? In his under 18s championship year he was playing as an onballer starting in the center and thats where i saw a hard running player who was linking up beautifully around the ground and just racking up big numbers of the ball including a 36 disposal game against one of them that i cant remembered. Since we have drafted him he has played majority of his time as a half forward where i think he is wasted. I look at someone like a James Aish and Leppa isn't afraid to throw him in the center and let him work into it. i also did mentioned that Toumpas was very stiff last year to get dropped when Salem was struggling himself and not getting alot of the ball. Again i thought he struggled against Freo. I think the coaching staff need to leave toumpas in the side for about 6 weeks and just back him in and let him have a good run at it. He will get great confidence in him and i trully think he can become a great player for us.
  50. 2 points
    My wedding starts half way through the 2nd quarter. Im hoping I can catch a replay during the week.
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