[btdemon]

We're all morbidly speculating.... and we need some sort of concrete news as to the prognosis regarding Liam's injury, and whether he will again grace us with his wizardry. Or whether the cruel football gods have robbed us of our new delight. We Demon supporters are so used to having our hopes dashed. We always expect the worst. Is our pessimism justified? Rudeboy, your info is always accurate regarding Liam. Please set us straight.

[Japaljarri]

Give Rudeboy a break and have some patience mate, its the Clubs business to evaluate and announce these kinds of things when they are clear and whatever the prognosis may be.

They obviously work through all of that in the Clubs and Liams best interests.

This post has been edited by Japaljarri: 08 March 2010 - 10:13 PM

[why you little]

Japaljarri, on 08 March 2010 - 11:12 PM, said:

Give Rudeboy a break and have some patience mate, its the Clubs business to evaluate and announce these kinds of things when they are clear and whatever the prognosis may be.

They obviously work through all of that in the Clubs and Liams best interests.

well said japaljarri-L J is not the first player to pop a shoulder. Every body just chill out, Hawthorn have just lost 2 very important players for 3 and 4 months.

Australian football is the toughest game going around, injuries do happen and are always factored into a clubs planning.

Just chill out all of you.

[Rojik of the Arctic]

Japaljarri, on 08 March 2010 - 11:12 PM, said:

Give Rudeboy a break and have some patience mate, its the Clubs business to evaluate and announce these kinds of things when they are clear and whatever the prognosis may be.

They obviously work through all of that in the Clubs and Liams best interests.

^This.

It's unfortunate but it is also football - these things happen. We will know in good time and no amount of pulling your hair out will make it quicker.

[RalphiusMaximus]

We played half a season without him last year. We'll manage again this year. We'll just enjoy it a little less than we might otherwise. On the bright side, imagine how you'll feel when he comes back into the senior side.

[kerrydixon]

Japaljarri, on 08 March 2010 - 11:12 PM, said:

Give Rudeboy a break and have some patience mate, its the Clubs business to evaluate and announce these kinds of things when they are clear and whatever the prognosis may be.

They obviously work through all of that in the Clubs and Liams best interests.

I agree we should be waiting for the club to give us the details.

[J-Riv]

btdemon, on 08 March 2010 - 11:02 PM, said:

We're all morbidly speculating.... and we need some sort of concrete news as to the prognosis regarding Liam's injury, and whether he will again grace us with his wizardry. Or whether the cruel football gods have robbed us of our new delight. We Demon supporters are so used to having our hopes dashed. We always expect the worst. Is our pessimism justified? Rudeboy, your info is always accurate regarding Liam. Please set us straight.

Calm down and get on with your life. We'll all know when the club tells us.

[2014-Flag]

Since the Mfc still hasn't posted liam's status as of 9.15 this morning can assume they are looking at all medical options. It may not be as bad as we are imagining. I suggest the longer it takes the more room for optimism there is. All is not lost!

[Keyser Söze]

Oh my god...

It's past 1pm and we still don't know!
The world is going to END!!

[flog]

btdemon, on 08 March 2010 - 11:02 PM, said:

We're all morbidly speculating.... and we need some sort of concrete news as to the prognosis regarding Liam's injury, and whether he will again grace us with his wizardry. Or whether the cruel football gods have robbed us of our new delight. We Demon supporters are so used to having our hopes dashed. We always expect the worst. Is our pessimism justified? Rudeboy, your info is always accurate regarding Liam. Please set us straight.

"O Rudeboy, Rudeboy! wherefore art thou Rudeboy?

[Roost It]

Keyser Söze, on 09 March 2010 - 01:07 PM, said:

Oh my god...

It's past 1pm and we still don't know!
The world is going to END!!

Part of my world (for 2010) ended when that shoulder went POP. He was going to be a joy to watch this year.

[RudeBoy]

flog, on 09 March 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

"O Rudeboy, Rudeboy! wherefore art thou Rudeboy?

It's up to the club to inform the public about such matters, and because Liam is my mate, I am also aware that I have a responsibility to respect his privacy, especially concerning his health.

However, I think I should set a couple of things straight before panic sets in. Firstly, he and Bell will both be having some work done on their shoulders tomorrow. Secondly, while he'll be out of action for a while, he will definitely be back playing mid season, so talk of his demise is definitely premature. Believe me, he'll be back stronger and hungrier than ever.

[Grimes to Watts]

RudeBoy, on 09 March 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

It's up to the club to inform the public about such matters, and because Liam is my mate, I am also aware that I have a responsibility to respect his privacy, especially concerning his health.

However, I think I should set a couple of things straight before panic sets in. Firstly, he and Bell will both be having some work done on their shoulders tomorrow. Secondly, while he'll be out of action for a while, he will definitely be back playing mid season, so talk of his demise is definitely premature. Believe me, he'll be back stronger and hungrier than ever.

Mid season, I like that mail. Thanks RB !

all the best for liam with the op and his recovery. all the best for Bell too, let's not forget.

[why you little]

RudeBoy, on 09 March 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

It's up to the club to inform the public about such matters, and because Liam is my mate, I am also aware that I have a responsibility to respect his privacy, especially concerning his health.

However, I think I should set a couple of things straight before panic sets in. Firstly, he and Bell will both be having some work done on their shoulders tomorrow. Secondly, while he'll be out of action for a while, he will definitely be back playing mid season, so talk of his demise is definitely premature. Believe me, he'll be back stronger and hungrier than ever.

Thanks RB Regards to Liam & Belly.

Now everybody read this post carefully- Take a deep Breath & Relax.

what's done is done-all clubs carry injury & always will. We are still going to win games this year.

[Whispering_Jack]

Thanks to Rudeboy for your input.

It should be noted that the recovery time from shoulder operations varies from person to person. My elder son required a shoulder reconstruction as a result of a football injury at the age of 18. His surgeon proscribed a recovery period of 5 to 6 months but told him that, in the case of a professional althlete, the recovery time could be reduced considerably with the appropriate rehab work. So whether they have recos or other work on their shoulder areas, it's a case of hard work and perseverance for Liam and Belly and using the next few months to work on improving in whatever areas they can while they're out of action.

[why you little]

Whispering_Jack, on 09 March 2010 - 05:43 PM, said:

Thanks to Rudeboy for your input.

It should be noted that the recovery time from shoulder operations varies from person to person. My elder son required a shoulder reconstruction as a result of a football injury at the age of 18. His surgeon proscribed a recovery period of 5 to 6 months but told him that, in the case of a professional althlete, the recovery time could be reduced considerably with the appropriate rehab work. So whether they have recos or other work on their shoulder areas, it's a case of hard work and perseverance for Liam and Belly and using the next few months to work on improving in whatever areas they can while they're out of action.

Belly & Liam are going to become very close mates Hopefully. Help each other out.

[The Emblem]

Not good news is it.

My wife dislocated her shoulder - requiring an operation and it triggered a series of events that led to us getting married.

I wish LJ and Belly a much more fortunate outcome!

[Deeoldfart]

RudeBoy, on 09 March 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

It's up to the club to inform the public about such matters, and because Liam is my mate, I am also aware that I have a responsibility to respect his privacy, especially concerning his health.

However, I think I should set a couple of things straight before panic sets in. Firstly, he and Bell will both be having some work done on their shoulders tomorrow. Secondly, while he'll be out of action for a while, he will definitely be back playing mid season, so talk of his demise is definitely premature. Believe me, he'll be back stronger and hungrier than ever.

Thank you for your very considered and considerate response RudeBoy. I was hoping that Liam would be back in time for you to have a massive conflict of interest on Monday, 14 June ....... but alas, that now seems unlikely. However, the most important thing is for him to make a full and complete recovery, before coming back, as you say, "stronger and hungrier than ever". Cheers!!

[red&blue&true]

Its_A_Nightmare, on 09 March 2010 - 08:56 PM, said:

Not good news is it.

My wife dislocated her shoulder - requiring an operation and it triggered a series of events that led to us getting married.

I wish LJ and Belly a much more fortunate outcome!

kudos, u got a laugh out of a very dissapointed demons fan

[jayceebee31]

Whispering_Jack, on 09 March 2010 - 05:43 PM, said:

Thanks to Rudeboy for your input.

It should be noted that the recovery time from shoulder operations varies from person to person. My elder son required a shoulder reconstruction as a result of a football injury at the age of 18. His surgeon proscribed a recovery period of 5 to 6 months but told him that, in the case of a professional althlete, the recovery time could be reduced considerably with the appropriate rehab work. So whether they have recos or other work on their shoulder areas, it's a case of hard work and perseverance for Liam and Belly and using the next few months to work on improving in whatever areas they can while they're out of action.

In some ways Liam having his first major injury he now knows how important fitness, exercise , strength and conditioning his body is.We all know how his body is so light and he will have to build up his strength and weight over the next few pre seasons. This time out will play a major part to this being strength to his shoulder areas.Similar to Jack Watts. Far too slight for the role we want to play him.Liam,I believe is far to light also.However the best with recovery to him and Ding Dong.

[RudeBoy]

jayceebee31, on 10 March 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

In some ways Liam having his first major injury he now knows how important fitness, exercise , strength and conditioning his body is.We all know how his body is so light and he will have to build up his strength and weight over the next few pre seasons. This time out will play a major part to this being strength to his shoulder areas.Similar to Jack Watts. Far too slight for the role we want to play him.Liam,I believe is far to light also.However the best with recovery to him and Ding Dong.

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

[dandeeman]

RudeBoy, on 10 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

Thanks Rudeboy, he has shown us before that he only needs one hand.

Very grateful for any info that you pass on.

[High Tower]

RudeBoy, on 10 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

Thanks RudeBoy. Good to read it went well and that he is very determined.

[Jaded]

RudeBoy, on 10 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

Oh my god, Jurrah has one arm... we're doomed... DOOMED!

Cheers for the update. I have no doubt that while this is a setback for him and us, it will actually be a good experience for him to learn what rehab is like for a professional footballer and what sort of commitment you need to have if you're going to fully recover from a major injury. It'll make him a better, stronger footballer in the long run.

[why you little]

RudeBoy, on 10 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

Amputation....AAAAArrrrggh What have they done This is all Brumby's fault...Dam Health system!

[Felix da Dee]

Its_A_Nightmare, on 09 March 2010 - 06:56 PM, said:

Not good news is it.

My wife dislocated her shoulder - requiring an operation and it triggered a series of events that led to us getting married.

I wish LJ and Belly a much more fortunate outcome!

Thanks I needed a laugh!

[condemned 84]

Cheers Rudeboy.
Very much appreciated.

[glenn honey's dud brother]

RudeBoy, on 10 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

Hmmm, maybe this guy could do the trick in the meantime
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=dFoagC5yGY0

[The Emblem]

why you little, on 11 March 2010 - 12:03 AM, said:

Amputation....AAAAArrrrggh What have they done This is all Brumby's fault...Dam Health system!

WYL your post is out of kilter with the unofficial demonland position that everything is Bohdan's fault...to the the point where I have a song running through my head "Blame Bohdan" to the tune of South Park's "Blame Canada"...more on that later.

Back on topic. RudeBoy thanks very much for keeping us up to date on LJ's physical and mental state. Please let him know that he has a lot of well wishers.

[Little Lucifer]

RudeBoy, on 09 March 2010 - 04:15 PM, said:

It's up to the club to inform the public about such matters, and because Liam is my mate, I am also aware that I have a responsibility to respect his privacy, especially concerning his health.

However, I think I should set a couple of things straight before panic sets in. Firstly, he and Bell will both be having some work done on their shoulders tomorrow. Secondly, while he'll be out of action for a while, he will definitely be back playing mid season, so talk of his demise is definitely premature. Believe me, he'll be back stronger and hungrier than ever.

Interesting...how much do you really know or were you guessing?? I guess you forgot to mention Liam went in before Bell early Wed. Their injuries were better than expected (if you could look at it like that)and injury repair time although still not good is expected to be shorter than first announced if all goes according to plan .

[RudeBoy]

Little Lucifer, on 11 March 2010 - 02:56 PM, said:

Interesting...how much do you really know or were you guessing?? I guess you forgot to mention Liam went in before Bell early Wed. Their injuries were better than expected (if you could look at it like that)and injury repair time although still not good is expected to be shorter than first announced if all goes according to plan .

For the record, I only post stuff re Liam to correct misinformation. I think a check of my posts will show I'm informed on matters pertaining to LJ.

[MikeyJ]

Little Lucifer, on 11 March 2010 - 02:56 PM, said:

Interesting...how much do you really know or were you guessing?? I guess you forgot to mention Liam went in before Bell early Wed. Their injuries were better than expected (if you could look at it like that)and injury repair time although still not good is expected to be shorter than first announced if all goes according to plan .

While RudeBoy (see above) is more than capable of looking after himself on these forums, I also implore to you go and research his previous posts before you embarrass yourself any further.

This post has been edited by MikeyJ: 11 March 2010 - 02:20 PM

[Keyser Söze]

I'd just like to register my chagrin in regards to this thread.
It is great that Rudeboy is in a position to help us out with info from time to time, but pleading for him to "put our minds at ease" is a bit over the top.
It's a fine line between that and asking him to abuse his position in Liam's life for our purposes (although I'm sure he's wise enough to not do that).
Threads like this that have ensured I keep my connections to those at MFC well & truly under my hat.

Also to do that and then question the validity of what he says...

Just relax a bit guys.
Enough hysteria and second-guessing and the season is still 2 weeks away.

Edit: just saw Rudeboy's post. But what I said stands.

This post has been edited by Keyser Söze: 11 March 2010 - 02:28 PM

[jayceebee31]

glenn honey said:

Hmmm, maybe this guy could do the trick in the meantime
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=dFoagC5yGY0

Not funny re LJ and his current problem.Buy gee I laughed ,I had forgotten these two comedians-Two off the best.Thanks for the memory and laugh

[Roost It]

RudeBoy, on 10 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just got back from visiting him at the hospital. He's very determined to come back fit and strong later in the year. For those interested, the amputation went well, but he's going to have to work more on his left side from here on.

Best news I've had all week. Can't wait to see him back.
In a 12 year, quadruple premiership, Norm Smith Medal winning, Dual Coleman medal winning career, this is but a blip on the radar.

Go Liam, unleash hell

[flog]

Keyser Söze, on 11 March 2010 - 03:26 PM, said:

I'd just like to register my chagrin in regards to this thread.
It is great that Rudeboy is in a position to help us out with info from time to time, but pleading for him to "put our minds at ease" is a bit over the top.
It's a fine line between that and asking him to abuse his position in Liam's life for our purposes (although I'm sure he's wise enough to not do that).
Threads like this that have ensured I keep my connections to those at MFC well & truly under my hat.

Also to do that and then question the validity of what he says...

Just relax a bit guys.
Enough hysteria and second-guessing and the season is still 2 weeks away.

Edit: just saw Rudeboy's post. But what I said stands.

So...

who are your connections?

This post has been edited by flog: 11 March 2010 - 04:31 PM